ok, so the nokians are like a needle in a haystack in southern california.

so i been lookin at some more common tires at costco like these:

BFGoodrich® All Terrain T/A KO LT225/70R16

Michelin® LTX M/S P225/70R16

Michelin® X-Radial LT P225/70R16

BFGoodrich® Radial Long Trail T/A P225/70R16 (apparently, they dont make these anymore though)

Bridgestone Dueler A/T P215/70R16 (these are the beefier ones)

so anyways, i might have to go stock size if i get them at costco (seems they wont throw 225's on) but if i do get them there, what do you guys think about these tires???

the BFG All Terrains look pretty mean n beefy, and probably what im shooting for, but i dont know much about regular southern california road handling. i do roll up quite a bit off the road to hit some streams to fish so i would like some tires that can handle some of that beating. but anyways, i think i might roll with them. let me know what you guys think!!!

I have Cooper AT category tires which have similar aggresive square shoulders. This contrasts with the rather narrow tread width of the stock tires. I have found that their behavior depends a lot on pressure. At the pressures recommended by Honda, the tread makes full contact, and the steering is noticibly stiffer than with the stock tires. It is also noisier. Running several psi higher, lifts the edges a bit, reducing both noise and turning resistance.

I also suspect my mpg are down, though I haven't had a chance to test them on an extended freeway run.

I get good traction in rain, but I also sense more resistance to travel. This could be attributed to the wider tread, and the need to evacuate more water.

paulj

I have dueler A/T REVO's on my Toyota Pickup and absolutely love them....they are what I plan to put on the E when I wear out the stock tires.

I have these tires on my Jeep Cherokee. Before these, I had Goodyear Wrangler Radials and Cooper Discoverer Radials. The BGF KO's are the best ones I have had for the snow, and they are also good in the rain. Never went off-road, though.

However, I have not had them on a front-wheel drive vehicle, or one with auto AWD. So, I don't how they would be. These tires a bit noiser than ones with less aggressive tread, but this only matters if you desire really quiet tires.

doublecheck that the duelers at costco are the revo and not just the dueler. i've heard great things on the revo, but not so great on the dueler. just my $.02.

As far as I've seen, Revos only come in the 235 width (of the ones that fit the Element). The KOs do come in the 215 width - though not everyone lists that width (Sams Club does).

paulj

I've had the BFG AT/KO's on my Ford Ranger, a old Chevy Blazer and later on a Jeep.
Loved 'em on all three.

They are a little stiffer and make a little more noise (very little)
but there is nothing better for on and off road if you really drive off road.
My sets seemed to last forever too.
They were still on both vehicles when I got rid of them...wish i could have kept the tires. :x

LOVE the BFGs - have them on my Tacoma. I'll be putting them on my E next time around.