Does anyone know what the 64+ seating configs are exactly? I can only think of about 12.

I think they calculated it this way:
2 rear seats with 4 positions multiplied by 2 front seats with 2 positions.
2^4X2^2=64
The math works out.........man my math teachers would be proud! :)

I can get at least 39...

okay, I get it. So its strictly a math statement, not a statement of usability. I can imagine there are some configurations in the 64 that just wouldn't be of any real use, like the front seats flat with the back seats removed (then again, it could still be a bed for short people :D ) Thanks Keymonkey

Honda.ca will show you all 64.

This is the basic formula from college math. The calculations are based on permutations and combinations.

There are 4 seats. Each front seat has two variations - up or reclined. Each of the back seats has 4 poccible positions - normal, reclined, folded up, or removed. So the permutations for the four seats is calculated as 4 X 4 X 2 X 2 = 64

but just imagine if we could add 5 more positions to that :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I wonder how many of us can claim using other "positions" in their E?... the back certain provides plenty of room to discover the entire Kama Sutra :P

Ha Ian! I'll have to get back to you on trying out that one :twisted:

[quote:89bc0c3b37="ianmcc"]I wonder how many of us can claim using other "positions" in their E?... the back certain provides plenty of room to discover the entire Kama Sutra :P[/quote:89bc0c3b37]

amen to that!!!!!


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Went and test drove an EX 4WD SOP today...been a member here for three months, dont know why it took me so long! LOVE this car, but I am short about 10K (anyone want to loan a hardworking 24 yr old some $$? :D ) I thought I had played around with it until there was nothing left to do. Can anyone tell me if you can make the rear seats face backwards? I figure since it mounts on those two rails it is possible. I want to put on my biking shoes while sitting in the back, so it would be real convenient that way.

I also heard them saying there were over 30 seating configurations...to me I can only see seats folded up, seats all down, one up one down, both taken out, all four seats laid flat into bed. Am I missing something?

Nope, but if you do the different combinations of each, it adds up.

Front seat up, passenger seat up, rear driver up, rear passenger down.
Front seat up, passenger seat up, rear driver down, rear passenger up.
Front seat up, passenger seat up, both rear seats down.
Front seat up, passenger seat down, rear driver up, rear passenger down.
Front seat up, passenger seat down, rear driver down, rear passenger up.
Front seat up, passenger seat down, both rear seats down.
Keep on going. :)

According to the owner's manual the passenger seat can be turned around to face backwards. I seem to remember that one of the pictures in the brochure shows this. It involves removing the headrest I do remember, but I've forgotten the rest. It did sound slightly complicated and as I couldn't think of a reason for me to do so, I didn't try it.

[quote:c886ad194a="M Ornett"]According to the owner's manual the passenger seat can be turned around to face backwards. I seem to remember that one of the pictures in the brochure shows this. It involves removing the headrest I do remember, but I've forgotten the rest. It did sound slightly complicated and as I couldn't think of a reason for me to do so, I didn't try it.[/quote:c886ad194a]

I have not seen that in the manual, could you let us know what page it is on?

I seem to remember that this was a feature in the concept car that never made it to production.

Actually the Element has 64 different seating configurations.

firetruck41, you're right. I could have sworn I'd read it in the manual. I distinctly remember reading instructions on how to reverse the seats somewhere though. Wierd?

That would be kinda cool, especially for tailgate parties and stuff. :)

[quote:cb0cc04546="M Ornett"]firetruck41, you're right. I could have sworn I'd read it in the manual. I distinctly remember reading instructions on how to reverse the seats somewhere though. Wierd?[/quote:cb0cc04546]

I didn't think I had seen anything about it in the manual, but I was hoping, as it would be cool!

Has anyone notice when you type in the honda.com web site you can see the 2 back seats with bungee cords in them??? I thought we only get 1 in the front and one in the back?

Just click on "fun" and then click on "64 seat configuration"

That E on the part of the website you are talking about looks like the prototype. Apparently they didn't think we needed all those bungees. :D

Thanks Berniesgirl,

I own my E for 4 months now and i haven't even stuck anything between those bungee's yet :D

Same here.

Actually, had a cool frisbee back there for a few days, but someone at work saw it, took it out, and it ended up on the 3rd story roof like 5 minutes later. Oh well.

:D

HA HA :D

Each rear seat has 4 configurations:

Upright
Flat
Suspended (what would you call it?)
Removed

Front seats have 2:

Upright
Flat

So you have 4x4x2x2 = 64 configurations, some of which are ridiculous and 32 of which preclude driving.

Is there any way to make the rear seats face eachother. I had seen that somwhere, I would love to get my seats that way? Anyone ever seen that?

We put 1 rear seat up (suspended) and the other flat like a bench seat & this works well for changing shoes, etc.

I keep hearing about the 64 seat configurations possible in the Element, but can't find anything that shows all of those...does anyone have any ideas?

Still waiting to buy my Kiwi Ex-P in NC

Each of the front seats has 2 configurations ( up and reclined ) for a total of 4 front configurations. Each of the rear seats has 4 configurations ( up, reclined, folded against the side and out ) for a total of 16. Total front and rear combo's ---16x4= 64. I can't imagine any one using all of these combo's in the same car, but it's possible.

I have only used 5 myself. One option that I would like to have but with the electronics would be impractical, would be being able to remove the front passanger seat.

Does anyone know if there are any photo's of the 64+ possibilities? I just want to get an overview, thanks if you can help.

Does anyone know if there are any photo's of the 64+ possibilities? I just want to get an overview, thanks if you can help.

OK, you're making this way too hard. Do you live near a Honda dealership?

Does anyone know if there are any photo's of the 64+ possibilities? I just want to get an overview, thanks if you can help.

A lot of them were covered in the 2003 advertisement the dealer had for the Element - not sure it covered all 64

Also could you please fill out your profile

does each increment of putting the seat back count as a "position"?

OK, you're making this way too hard. Do you live near a Honda dealership?

Yes, not too far. Not sure what you mean by 'way too hard' surprised to get a response so quick though... cheers

Yes, not too far. Not sure what you mean by 'way too hard' surprised to get a response so quick though... cheers

My advice would be to go to your nearest dealer and have them open up an Element for you. Try out the seats, test folding them up and back, taking them out and putting them in again. My point is rather than look over photographs of the seating configurations, why not get in there and try it for yourself?

A lot of them were covered in the 2003 advertisement the dealer had for the Element - not sure it covered all 64

Also could you please fill out your profile

Didn't know I had a profile, will look into it soon, no time today. New to forums. thanks for the advice.
cheers
Pav

Actually as a new E owner myself (about two weeks now) I would be interested in seeing that as well. I know the 2008 brochure advertises its versatility of 64 positions, but thats about all it tells you.

My advice would be to go to your nearest dealer and have them open up an Element for you. Try out the seats, test folding them up and back, taking them out and putting them in again. My point is rather than look over photographs of the seating configurations, why not get in there and try it for yourself?

And if they brought someone with, they could check out the comfort level of some of those "positions"...........KormE SutrE

And if they brought someone with, they could check out the comfort level of some of those "positions"...........KormE SutrE
:lol::lol::lol:
Waw waw waw waaaaaaaw.

Really, your best bet is to go to the dealer. You'd be suprised at how heavy the back seats really are.

I can personally attest to 26 of the positions. Number 18 was a lot of fun but I pulled a neck muscle.

Photos probably aren't necessary. Each rear seat has four positions: upright, reclined, folded up against the wall, and removed from the car. With two rear seats, that's 4 x 4 possible combinations. Meanwhile, each front seat has two positions: upright and reclined. That gives us 4 x 4 x 2 x 2 = 64.

Thank you ramblerdan for the mathematical formula to the seating configurations.

Danman, You took all the fun out of it. Chalk up another dead thread. :roll:

Actually I liked Rocket Dog's answer better. :)

Photos probably aren't necessary. Each rear seat has four positions: upright, reclined, folded up against the wall, and removed from the car. With two rear seats, that's 4 x 4 possible combinations. Meanwhile, each front seat has two positions: upright and reclined. That gives us 4 x 4 x 2 x 2 = 64.

Makes sense, I guess I just wanted to know if there were some I was missing out on.
Cheers
Pav

I can personally attest to 26 of the positions. Number 18 was a lot of fun but I pulled a neck muscle.

I not going to go as far as saying you were alone at the time.


Btw congrats on post #3000 there Ted.

I not going to go as far as saying you were alone at the time.


Btw congrats on post #3000 there Ted.

Do I get a toaster? Oh wait...already got one. :-D

Do I get a toaster? Oh wait...already got one. :-D


Need a Honda cargo organiser?

HI Ted- or should I say Klatu Barada Nikto...

Actually I liked Rocket Dog's answer better. :)

Take care now, The dog will have you rubbing his neck !! :D

Ps: take the choke chain off first !:rolleyes:

Dom

Need a Honda cargo organiser?

I went and got one of those big plastic tub things at Target that the cool EOC folks have.

How about an electromagnetic pulse cannon?

LOL, with 3 big labs, my back seats have only one configuration....OUT.

Photos probably aren't necessary. Each rear seat has four positions: upright, reclined, folded up against the wall, and removed from the car. With two rear seats, that's 4 x 4 possible combinations. Meanwhile, each front seat has two positions: upright and reclined. That gives us 4 x 4 x 2 x 2 = 64.

My thanks also, ramblerdan for the intuitive insight into the possible seating positions. I suppose one could also add that the reclined position could be subdivided into 'partially reclined' (lounging) and 'fully reclined' (lying down). That makes the total positions......uhhh, I'll leave that to you.

I only know of like 4. What are the other 60? Where can I find out? Any illustrations that show this? Thanks

Take a look here....


http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9958&postcount=2

Threads merged.

I probably only use a few of the seat positions, the majority of those involving the rear seats folded up and out of the way. I have had no real need to remove the back seats entirely and folding them up has served all my uses so far. Besides, my daughter's booster seat is locked into the back passenger side seat with the roof child hook, the two child hooks in the seat bottom as well as the seat belt with the ratcheting mechanism engaged. LOL I try to avoid removing the booster seat as much as I can because it's quite the labourious process to take it out and put it back in all the time :lol:

On October 19th I moved up to Toronto for my final 8-week term of Honda Tech school and with the seats folded up I was able to fit all my gear into the E and STILL be able to look out the back window (the gear was loaded to a level even with where the headrests woud be). If I remember to I'll take a pick when I load it back up and move home in December.

Speaking of room to move, about a month ago a lovely lady friend of mine and I attended a large skateboard mini-ramp bash a friend of mine had at his parents' farm near London. With the rear seats folded up and the fronts moved all the way forward, we had enough room in the front seats still to stow all our overnight gear. Then in the back a Coleman twin air mattress fit quite nicely along with blankets and pillows and room to stretch out (I'm 5'8 and she's 5'6)

Although truth be told, not much sleeping was to be had when we retired to the Element in the early morning hours after having some frosty beverages, skating the mini-ramp and hanging out with friends ;-)

But for the short time we did succumb to alcohol-induced slumber until the sunlight came knocking on the windows, we slept up like babies :D

I'm gonna be 50 in a week, and suddenly I've started sleeping like a baby also.....waking up every two hours, crying.

CoolE

I'm gonna be 50 in a week, and suddenly I've started sleeping like a baby also.....waking up every two hours, crying, hungry and having to go the bathroom.

CoolE

There I fixed it for ya.:D

I'm gonna be 50 in a week, and suddenly I've started sleeping like a baby also.....waking up every two hours, crying.

CoolEI know this is OT but I was wondering...am I the youngest member on the site (turning 35 on Jan 23rd) who owns an Element? :grin:

I know this is OT but I was wondering...am I the youngest member on the site (turning 35 on Jan 23rd) who owns an Element? :grin:

Most definitely not,I'm pretty sure we have a few members on here,who are as young as 16.
:cool:

Most definitely not,I'm pretty sure we have a few members on here,who are as young as 16.
:cool:Haha sorry. I mean to type AM I one of the youngest. I so sthoopidth thumstimths.

As you were... :D

Most definitely not,I'm pretty sure we have a few members on here,who are as young as 16.
:cool:

As of this august ill be one of the younest to own one. (17)

When I was 17, I wanted a van. No WAY my Pops would let me get one (this was the '70's now) - he was afraid I would put a bed in the back since that was all the rage. I can pretty much guarantee that there would have been even less of a chance of getting an E if they were around. Seats that folded down into a bed? Blasphemy!

CoolE'sRule

Seats that folded down into a bed? Blasphemy!

I guess a Nash was out of the question!

even though they advertise 64 positions you cant use all of them. I tried to fold the rear passenger side seat up against the window and then recline the front passenger seat all the way back and you cant. The passenger seat hits the rear seat. :confused:

even though they advertise 64 positions you cant use all of them. I tried to fold the rear passenger side seat up against the window and then recline the front passenger seat all the way back and you cant. The passenger seat hits the rear seat. :confused:

What if you take off the passenger seat headrest, recline, then put the headrest back on?

What if you take off the passenger seat headrest, recline, then put the headrest back on?

I didnt go nuts trying to figure it out but I think if you move the front seat all the way forward then recline it and then push it back it should work.

Does someone have a chart or pics of how you can change the back seats .Every one saids there are 64 ways. I would just like to see a chart or pics of half of them. I am very sorry that the rear seats do not fold forward like the CR-V . I know about hanging them on the side but thats about it.
Thanks Newbe
Harley

From a prevous post:

"Each rear seat has four positions: upright, reclined, folded up against the wall, and removed from the car. With two rear seats, that's 4 x 4 possible combinations. Each front seat has two positions: upright and reclined. That's 4 x 4 x 2 x 2 = 64."

I read the post on rear seats, does any one have a chart with pics of the configurations. I wish the rear seats would fold forward like the CR-V. Pain in the A_____ to have to hang them on the wall.
Thanks Harley

My husband and I are going to be owner's of an Element and we've been wondering if the back seats are capable of being swapped and made to sit reverse. Has anyone tried this?

My husband and I are going to be owner's of an Element and we've been wondering if the back seats are capable of being swapped and made to sit reverse. Has anyone tried this?No they can't be reversed. The design of the seat and where it mounts to the floor and the side is left- and right-specific.