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: burned through the paint while waxing??


ImpulseE
03-16-2005, 01:11 PM
Hey guys, well I was noticing on my 1.5 month old element that right under the rear window where there is a ledge(for lack of a better word) it looks as if the paint has been rubbed to the primer. Im assuming its primer because it is a very minor spot of grey. Right next to that spot is another spot where it looks like the clearcoat got burned through but not to the primer.

Once I saw my car in the right light(after buying it). I realized the car was covered in swirl marks. However, I figured "what the hell can I do about it". Anyway, have the paint burned through by some idiot detailer is pretty annoying on a brand new F-ing car. Ive owned many used cars in the past and never had one with this particular idiot mark.

Is there anyway to repair this small problem without having to get their entire F-ing rear quarterpanel resprayed. :evil:

edit: Its raining right now so I cant put up a picture of it, but if it quits Ill take a pic.

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I talked to the service dept at the dealership where I bought the car from and they confirmed that this was a paint defect. They told me I could take it to any honda dealership and they should fix this defect no problem(I live about 5 hours away from where I bought my E).

MikeQBF
03-16-2005, 01:36 PM
>Is there anyway to repair this small problem without having to get their entire F-ing rear quarterpanel resprayed?

No.

The E's paint colors are multi-layer, where the final color appearance is determined by the underlying coats. There is no "quick fix" or patch, especially when you're talking about an edge detail.

The dealer monkey should be shot for taking a rotary buffer to a brand-new vehicle. The paint is still soft and they were asking for this kind of damage to the finish. Idiots. :x

special k
03-16-2005, 07:26 PM
[The dealer monkey should be shot for taking a rotary buffer to a brand-new vehicle. The paint is still soft and they were asking for this kind of damage to the finish. Idiots. :x[/QUOTE]

Mike

So the 1st time the vehicle gets waxed should be all by hand? At what point is it ok to use a rotary buffer on a finish? My reason for asking, I have one but don't have the E yet, will probably get a coat of wax on it in the first few days and want to make sure it's not an issue, I'll have mine within 2 weeks after it's built (by the time it gets processed-shipped and gets to dealer).

MikeQBF
03-16-2005, 07:34 PM
>...will probably get a coat of wax on it in the first few days...

Not recommended. If it's a freshly-manufactured vehicle, you need to wait a month or so for the paint to finish curing before waxing. If you insist, then it must be by hand, and then carefully. Then add another couple of months before doing any buffer work because the coat of wax will interfere with the cure process.

If it's been sitting on the dealer's lot for a while, then no problem, wax away.

special k
03-16-2005, 07:58 PM
Thanks Mike, I'll wait it out before the first coat goes on by hand.

JETT
04-06-2005, 05:00 PM
Glad I read this post. I'm getting my new E! this Friday straight from the factory. I was ready to throw some Liquid wax on it this weekend with my new orbit polisher. I guess not now. Thanks for the info Mike! :)

Kayakin' Dan
04-08-2005, 10:34 PM
I saw a whole line of E's with this "enhancement" at Gwinnett Place Honda. It seems that when they put their $400 "paint protection" option on, they use a buffer. Problem is, the E has lotsa corners...And viola, burnt paint. Don't get the Paint protection.

emt4diving
04-08-2005, 11:21 PM
You would have a hard time burning the paint with an orbital buffer, now if it was a high speed buffer then yes it would be easy, if you want to use a product that will keep you from burning the paint that would be called "Dri-Wash N Guard" i have used it professionally for about 6 years and it is great stuuf to work with.

ImpulseE
04-12-2005, 12:51 PM
Talked to the Honda service dept where I bought my E. They believe the paint problem is a defect and will be fixed under warranty.

cfbales
04-12-2005, 01:20 PM
Just remember, the dealer monkey detailing new cars is most likely the lowest paid worker in town. The dealer gets what they pay for. Problem is, they pass the crappy work to the end user.

BTW, been using the armstrong (hand) method of waxing cars for decades with terrific results.