Does anyone know if there is a way to place a screen in or over one or both of the front windows? Years ago I remember seeing a product that looked like a 4-5 in. window screen that you placed in your car window and rolled it up to wedge it in place. I've searched the internet for something like that with no luck. I plan on making a bug screen to fit over the sunroof using cloth screen and flexible strip magnets, but unless you can open another window, you still wouldn't get good ventilation for camping in it. I could make the same kind of screen for the front and just attach it to the outside of the car, but I'd like to find a better option.

If any one has any ideas, or has seen anything like this for sale anywhere, I'd sure appeciate the info.

Thanks,
Gayle

I am working on kinda the same thing, can you let me know how the strip magenets work for the sunroof, i am just wondering about the headliner and if they would be powerful enough.

but what i was thinking is the easiest thing to do would be to use strip magnets on the "back" doors. just open the wing windows and almost all the of the surface around them is steel, so that should be perfect for the strip magnets.

I think a screen could be fitted over the smaller back windows easily. For the top, I was actually thinking of removing the glass and placing a cloth screen on the outside where the magnets would lay on top of the car against the metal. If you made it loose enough you could even place it over the whole window with the glass in place and open. I just want to keep the bugs out while sleeping and let the air in. I think the magnets would be strong enough to keep it from blowing off. I'm still trying to locate some screening material. So far I haven't seen anything in a darker color at the local stores. I think I'll probably find something at a camping supplies place.

What i was going to try was the Home Stores. I was looking at home depot and they had a ton of fiberglass screens to choos from, mostly feel like stiff cloth, but, i dont know what that would do the paint if you use it on the roof.....

You can find the mosquito netting stuff all day long at a fabric shop. I have also been thinking about doing this and I have seen this material on ebay too.

For all campers & anyone who wants to keep the bugs out. I found a company in Scottsdale, AZ that makes custom screens for car doors. They slip over the top of the door like a sock with a slit for the side mirros & velcro to pull snug under mirros.

The company is called Skreenz by Blethen, Box 14524, phone #480-676-9512. You have to order by mail but they are very pleasant to deal with. Price was $50 per pair plus $9 shipping.

http://skreenz.com

http://www.elementownersclub.com/uploads/files/skreenz1.jpg
http://www.elementownersclub.com/uploads/files/skreenz2.jpg
http://www.elementownersclub.com/uploads/files/skreenz4.jpg

Thanks for the info and pix, msgail. I may have to order a set for my E. Gotta ask though, what is the doohickey mounted on your side-view mirror?

Those are pretty cool!

Especially in muggy weather!

:lol:

-brendan

PS - Yes, more pictures of the doohickies as well. I love mine!

Gotta ask though, what is the doohickey mounted on your side-view mirror?

DustE

Those are wide angle mirrors I got from Camping World

At Gettysberg. Gail had the side mirror add-ons that attracted a lot of inspection. Cool that she comes up with the screens, too! You go, girl!! Really neat stuff.

Gail you are quite the sleeper EOC member. You never get into the off topic wild posts but you always come out with these cool things that impress us! The mirrors and the screens are 2 of the more helpful affordable mods Ive seen! THANKS!

Those are AWESOME. Is the screen mesh small enough to keep out no-see-ems?

Those are sweet. Also ads a bit of privacy! With the tint in the back, a sunshade on the windshield, and these, who needs the privacy shades? Well, at night you would.

Too bad my 2 week camping trip starts in a week. These would be a nice addition.

[quote:0d67e0638d=" "]Those are AWESOME. Is the screen mesh small enough to keep out no-see-ems?[/quote:0d67e0638d]

Looked at the website and yes, no-see-ums are blocked out by this product. Such a sweet idea. I am trying to arrange a rush order. They do take paypal so I'm hoping I can avoid needing to send a check.

Stop by a sporting goods store (REI?) and pick up a few yards of tent mesh, and the screens for your self.

paulj

:wink: Stop by your nearest Army/Navy Surplus store and pick up Camo version. Cheap too!

8) DasBear

[quote:6ba01ac6e2=" "]Stop by a sporting goods store (REI?) and pick up a few yards of tent mesh, and the screens for your self.[/quote:6ba01ac6e2]

Well, not quite...

From their FAQ page:
http://www.skreenz.com/frequently_asked_questions.htm

What are Skreenz made of?
Skreenz are made of a special coated fiberglass material that has a unique property of not stretching in the horizontal and vertical direction (the waft and the weave) while stretching on the bias. This allows the Skreenz to snugly fit around a van door window frame and stay tight when you close the doors, keeping out flying insects. Sewn edges are finished with a binding material to give them a professional, finished look.

...

Will my van doors leak if it rains and I have a Skreenz on them?
No. The Skreenz are made of a soft, yet strong, water-resistant material that is so thin that it allows the gaskets around van doors to completely close and form a seal, as they normally would.

Will Skreenz keep "no-see'ems" (miniature black flies) out of our van while we sleep?
Skreenz are fabricated using a 20x20 fiberglass mesh material to keep out stinging, biting insects like mosquitoes, bees, wasps, hornets, horse/deer/house flies and those really small, pesky "no-see'ums".

-brendan

Thanks guys I think they're cool too.

I've been using them this week at work & have found the E much cooler & without bugs. Also takes less time for the a/c to cool down.

Now I'm not say to do this but you could leave them on while driving. I've left the passenger side on to go to the bank. Can't leave the drivers side on & do drive thru. :lol:

Now all I have to do is make a screen for the sun roof & I'm ready for camping.

MsGail

Here is another phone # that's listed on the tag 480-391-1450. Sorry I didn't check to see if they were the same in the first place. You can email Chuck at Blethen@Skreenz.com. He will respond & mention elementownersclub.

Sent them a thank you with picture on Wednesday & got a response Thursday. They want to use my picture on their website & I agreed. Also mention I posted about their product on the boards.

Forgot to mention I have the Honda rain guards on the doors. Just notice if you look at the inside picture you can see them.

Hope this helps
MsGail

Most excellent information! Thanks... :)

Very nice! 8)

Looking for some help finding some mosquito netting for the front windows. Actually, I'm looking for the ones pre-made by an Element owner that fit over the front doors. Could somebody post her website address? I'm headed to FLA for a week of camping and kayak-fishing starting Mar. 11 and I'd love to have the option of bugproof ventilation when I sleep in the E. I'm almost done with a complete camping/travelling make-over of me E and I can't wait to hit the road. Thanks!

What a cool product!

Gail's Element is first on the testimonials page BTW.

Kluffer, if you purchase a set of these let me know how they work out. My various bogus methods of keeping bugs out of vehicles (developed by trial and error over the years) are certainly not as slick as this product seems to be.

Kluffer,

Skreenz was the only place I found that make door screens. IMO there're made very well. Go on & off in seconds & don't take up much room when not in use.

I was also thinking about making a screen for the rear hatch opening. Something that drapes down. Not much larger than the opening for easy storage. Maybe held on top with magnets or velcro. A velcro loop for around the lift hinge. You get the idea simple & quick. Haven't attemped this yet.

Good Luck & have a nice trip

MsGail

Thanks for everyone's replies. Yes, Skreenz is what I was looking for. I will contact them tomorrow even though it says "Please allow 30-45 days for fabrication and delivery following receipt of your order." If they happen to have some Element ones sitting around I would love to buy them. If anything works out for this trip I'll post a review when I return. I'll be happy if I can get them before June because that's when I leave for 2 months of camping around the western states. This is kind of a shakedown cruise for the E before I get serious this summer.

Msgail--I like your idea of a similar netting going around the rear hatch. Talk about ventilation. I'm not convinced the efforts I've seen so far are bug proof enough. I may be wrong.

REI sells an 8x8 mosquito netting to go around tents for like 6 dollars.


If you have your entire clamshell opened up, you can take this 8x8 netting and slide over the door and the hatch, which covers the entire opening on the back. There is a bit of excess since the E is obviously not 8x8, so I take a bananaclip (all you girls have these laying around somewhere), get the netting super tight on the back, and clip it. I have camped this way several times and I have never woken up with a bug in my car.

Granted, I am camping in North Georgia, for just two or three days at a time and if it rains I have to take everything down (but it only takes about 5 minutes to set back up). If you are worried about seemenot's (or whatever those little flies that can get through cheap mosquito netting are called) this might not be the best setup since you arent truly "sealed" behind the netting, but for most purposes this works FANTASICALLY at keeping creepy crawlies out. You can even bring along a magnet and stretch the netting over the sunroof, although better solutions do exist for the sunroof.

I just searched REI and The Sports Authority's websites and neither have the product listed, but I can assure you it is there. There are no poles and no fabric. Just a mosquito net mesh shaped like this:

http://sier_element.home.comcast.net/netting.gif

Good suggestion! MIght try this one out.

...seemenot's

Is that what they call noseeums in Georgia?

Noseeum's, thats it. No, I just got the name wrong because I'm an idiot..haha.

There is a picture on this thread of my camping setup:
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9993&page=5&pp=10

My tailgate enclosure is a commericially available one ('midsize campertop tent') modified to fit the Element's tailgate better (the gray tarp addition at the bottom). The backside has a large mesh section, giving decent ventilation. If I take care in setting it up, the seal against the car should be good enough to keep bugs out. However I have not tested it in a buggy environment.

So far I have found that the Element is best for sleeping in cool rainy weather. In that context it is nice to sleep off the ground, in a very waterproof and cozy 'tent'. In warmer weather shade and ventillation are more important, and a good standalone tent might be better.

paulj

paulj--Your setup looks interesting, too. What was the brand name? It looks like it would connect up easier than some of the other cabanas. When I'm out west I don't need to be completely bug-proof when I'm sleeping. I'm 6'2" and could use the extra room the tailgate provides. I like to read with the light on and that's when I attract bugs. I guess I'd just have to read before attaching the enclosure. That, along with the window netting, would give plenty of ventilation. It would also give me more interior space for gear. Thanks again.

Wow... the Skreenz are 'spensive.

I was wondering if bulk netting and magnets holding it on to the outside of the E would work fine for camping? Will this keep bugs out? Will it easily blow off?

Where do you get bulk netting?

Thanks

B

You really think the Skreez are 'spensive? They aer $50 for the pair, right? The netting is not the normal screen door netting, it is a very tight netting that keeps out no-seeums which is important. They also don't need magnets or blow off if you drive with them. They are held in place by just closing the door.

I wouldn't have a clue as to where to purchase this sort of material either.

THey may not be expensive for what they are, but I don't need skreenz when I'm driving. I just want them when I'm sitting and sleeping in the E at night. So, compared, to netting and magnets, they are costly.

B

Wow, nest full of baby birds (cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap) :Dget it? (more of an aural joke than visual)

One of the only places I can think off hand to get fiberglass screen in bulk (might not be as tight a mesh as the Skreenz type) is Home Depot, Lowes, Sears Hardware or the like. As for magnets, you'd need to get some neodymium magnets, and they'll be tough to remove they're so strong, but they'll sure as hell stay put.

Wow, nest full of baby birds (cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap) :Dget it? (more of an aural joke than visual)

I once asked a girl for aural stimulation and she slapped me.

I have been looking at a Skreenz type screen for the sunroof.
Specifically no-seeum netting, with a heavier border sewn in that will allow a 1/8 inch bungee cord to go inside the border. Of course, then a velcro attachment to allow for the vent to be open and the screen on (when driving).
I have it all in my head, but am too lazy, too busy at work (insert excuse here) to actually do it. And now that I hear Skreenz is going to make one for the sunroof, I am getting even more lazy. :roll:

Here are some links to various parts you would need, for those do-it-yourselfers. I make no claims to the veracity of these websites, so buyer beware.

For netting
http://www.skeeta.com/html/netting/mosquito_no_see_um_netting.htm
http://www.mosquito-repellent.biz/
http://www.americanhomeandhabitat.com/products/no_see_um_netting_FFM010.htm

Cord Locks
http://www.plastic-buckle.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=326

Shock Cords (elastic bungies)
http://www.us-rope-cable.com/

MsGail a member here has the Skreenz and I must say they are impressive and I think worth the 50 bones they cost. They are a perfect fit and like Larry said they do not require magnets to hold them on. Gail also made a great sunroof screen that looks perfect. Good luck if you do decide to try and make them, I for one think my time is way more important than making something that will never be as good as the original thats only 50 bucks.

Ditto on the above. I'd agree if they were $100 a pair. Blutch you could put netting over the door w/magnets that would work.

Or seach the web there are companies selling netting in bulk. Why not get enough to cover the entire E & use whatever is around the camp site to hold the netting on the ground. Then all doors can be left open.

Or if you only want to cover the doors. Lowes & Home Depot sell screening. Cut 2 pieces for each door with extra for seams. Sew both sides & top. Cut a slit for the side mirror. Slide over door & close your done. (Leave it square or for a better look follow the door line with seam.)

Just a couple of ideas. Good Luck.

PS - driving with the screens on is probably illegal in most states & with the windows open there's an annoying whistling sound.

The Skreenz are so well crafted and effective that I think they are a bargain at $55 for the pair. They fit the doors better than most of my gloves. I open the doors a lot when I'm camping because I keep the cooler in the front passenger seat, dog food, books, etc. on the dash and floor. Nice not to have to mess with netting each time.

Nevertheless, a creative soul could fashion something workable out of the 72" square mosquitoe netting from www.campmor.com (http://www.campmor.com) that you can get for $5.

I'm just not that creative.

THey may not be expensive for what they are, but I don't need skreenz when I'm driving. I just want them when I'm sitting and sleeping in the E at night. So, compared, to netting and magnets, they are costly.

B

They are, but unless you're probably not going to get a good seal with magnets. You could probably do a DIY thing with a better strategy, maybe just copy how they do it... you'd need twice as much screen and maybe a sewing machine.

I have used a piece of netting that is large enough to drape over the top of the door. With a couple of magnets on the inside, and 2 or 3 on each outside edge I think I get pretty good seal. Fitting around the mirror is a trickier. In a breeze, flexing of the mesh may loosen the fit as the magnets slide around.

Does Skreenz use a magnetic strip along the outside bottom edge?

I'm not sure about the best choice of mesh. Skreenz ends up using a double layer of a fiberglass mesh. I have a tighter nonseum mesh, which will keep smaller bugs out, but also reduces air circulation. Another option is a knitted polyester mesh from Thailand, which is coarser but probably enough for mosquitos.

paulj

Paul, Skreenz don't need magnets. They are held in by closing the door.

What bugs/insects are smaller than no-seeums? Nothing I have ever heard of that would bother you while camping.

Y'all convinced me to look at the Skreenz more seriously, but their website doesn't seem to be functioning. Isn't it just www.skreenz.com? (http://www.skreenz.com/?)

THanks

B

That's correct -- www.skreenz.com (http://www.skreenz.com/) They got mine to me in 3 or 4 days and they come in a nice storage pouch. Really, I think you would be thrilled with your purchase and consider them a great bargain. I sure do.

Even calculating a sub-minimum wage, there's no way the time you spend and the result you get will be cost-effective compared to the skreenz. According to the web page, the inventor is an engineer and has been selling them for 20 years so he's had two decades to perfect them, and he has.

They fit so perfectly and even with extending just a couple inches or so below the window, nothing gets in. I camp here in humid circumstances and ventilation is fine.

Web site is working now. Phone #480-391-1450.

MsGail

Ok.. i've had a good look at the site.

Not only do I have the money right now to spend on them, I won't get them in time for my trip on Monday, so I need something temporary to use.

My wife thinks she can sew netting material in this shape. She is concerned that the wind will possibly tear regular netting material.

I have considered just getting regular household material and draping it over the door and shutting the door on it. I know its not pretty nor is it highly engineered, but it should work well eh? I really have NO need to roll the window up and down on the inside of a screen pillowcase as i only intend to use them at night while sleeping in the E sitting still.

Thoughts and comments?

Thanks

B

Just a heads-up. Skreenz now has a moonroof netting available for the Element. Go to skreenz.com.

I finished my DIY screens for the front windows of my E. Dealing with the mirrors was tough and I'm not completely happy with it, but I think it will function fine. I took some pics, but haven't been able to get them off the camera yet. Cost me about $8. Used fiberglass screen from Home Depot.

Also did a mosquito covering for the back open talgate.. used the chain idea - a channel around the edge to hold the netting down with chain. Works great! Photos to come.

I will test all this stuff on my fishing trip to Arkansas starting tomorrow.

B

As promised here are the pics of my homemade screens. They are made of fiberglass screen material from Home Depot... about 8 bucks.

http://members.cox.net/mpanderso/screens.jpg

Also, I thought I would show the mosquito netting I rigged up for the back opening of the E. I got this from another thread on this forum. Got the netting at Army Surplus for $5 bucks - wife sewed a channel hem all around it and threaded chain ($3.00 from HD.) through the channels. The chain rests perfectly on the drainage channels on the back of the E. I'm not sure how it would hold up in big wind, but should be great for overall use.

http://members.cox.net/mpanderso/backnet.jpg

I know that Skreenz are better and will last longer and do a better job overall, but for my uses this was the way to go for now.

You also might notice my PVC bed frame too.. That's another thread you can check out!

I'm off tomorrow morning.. will report after I get back.

B

Wow - that looks great! You and your wife are a good team.

Unfortunately, I'm more skilled with my credit card than a sewing machine.:|

hehehe. I asked my wife if she'd like to make some for others... she just rolled her eyes... so, Skreenz or DIY are your best bet. Sewing was easy except when it came to the mirrors... that didn't go well and was tedious. Skreenz are much cleaner.

B

You did a very good job putting the DIY Skreenz together for the doors. As for the rear screen... as you suspect I wouldn't expect it to remain in place even from a light breeze when out camping. It could startle you from a nice sound sleep though. lol

Just back from my fishing trip to Nortern Ark.

The DIY Screens functioned perfectly. NO bug at all in the E. I also kept them on all week and drove with them on. Worked fine.. a little flapping, but not bad.

The back mosquito net worked great too... but there was very little wind where I was.

I'll give a report on the PVC bed frame in that thread.

Thanks all!

B

Nice work look great.

I am planning on sleeping in my Element while travelling this summer. The nights though still are fairly cool up here in Canada so I've picked up a Coleman SportCat catalytic heater which should keep me toasty warm.

Although it doesn't require a lot of ventilation, it does need a bit of air.

A year or two ago, I thought I read something around here about someone making a screen window of sorts to attach to one of the windows.

Does anyone remember where that is? Or know how to make one that I could easily attach and remove?

Thanks,

Terry

They just started making Skreenz for the Element sunroofs, which I also ordered.

Cool! I didn't know that.

From the description on the web page, they sound better than the Honda screen. And cheaper.. And you don't have to tear up your headliner to install.

Needless to say, we're all looking forward to pics when you get 'em in!

- Jeff

For use with your heater, a screen over a rear side door window should provide enough ventillation.

If it is cool enough to need a heater at night (just when changing clothes, that is), you probably don't need bug protection. Just open one or both rear side door windows.

There have been lots of threads about screens while camping.

paulj

The Skreenz sunroof screen covers the outside of the sunroof. Should seal out bugs OK if you arrange it carefully, but unlike some homebrew solutions, you can't drive at speed with it on the car.

I'm not sorry I bought one, but wish I had Gail's instead.

JD from Skreenz left a message on my machine today. He ran off some Element Skreenz yesterday and mine are in the mail tomorrow!!! How's that for customer service? Now let's hope UPS get's them here.

It must be because I put in an order yesterday!

Carly, when are you leaving? Will you have email/web access to let all of us unfortunate slobs know what's happening?

Have Fun!
Dan

Hey Dan!

Yes, I will have web access and so will Gail. We will report back:)

I've been tring to figure out how to make side window suncreens that will block the sun but won't block the breeze when I park at the beach (or anywhere for that matter).....curtains look like a lot of work and bother...bought the fabric and everything.....

got an idea, took the silver fabric from the springy thing that doesn't fit in the side windows and wrapped magnets in the top (will sew it together when I figure it all out) and stuck them to the top of the door frame.

Q????? will magnets damage anything electronic in the alarm or door? would hate to be sorry about my brilliant idea......

I'm also wondering if I need to pad the magnets in a softer fabric so they won't scratch the paint.....

GwenEle,
I made window screens for for the rear windows and sunroof.
Mosquito netting from a sporting goods store and magnet strips from Lowes.
I folded the netting over the magnet strip and secured with a clear silicone adhesive.
Not pretty but it works.
I have not had any scratches from the netting, but a course netting material might scratch the clear coat.
So if you go this route find a soft material.
Experiment to see how much material can be used between the magnet and the metal before the magnet becomes ineffective.
You might be able to double up on Mosquito netting to gain the desired shading effect.

Good luck and let us know what works.

at this point I probably won't get to it until after new years.... and it's been cool..finally....calif though, probably 80 next week....

Hey guys just got back from Yellowstone and tested out my home built mosquito screens. They are held on by several magnets, fold up and fit completely hidden in the drivers side seat pouch and not a single bug worked its way into the car at night while I was up there!

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u121/natehobbs/IMG_0080.jpg

One nice thing about this set up is it can be taken down with out stepping out of the car or opening the door, This is a huge plus because any time saved breaking down camp in the morning is another minute I can sleep in and still be out in time to get my images.

just push the screen out and grab it and fold it. The window can fully operate to control the amount of ventilation and the magnets are strong enough that it should remain put during most storms.


It was a cheap thing as well
Magnets 3.64x2 at officemax (one set of 12 magnets per door)
Screen was left over material
grey liner around the edge was fabric cost about 2 dollars for way more than enough. I have enough left over to make some curtians for windows on the next project.

I thought it would be good to have screens that fit over the front door and window so you could roll down the windows but keep out the bugs. I looked around online for such things, but didn't find anything so I thought I'd try to make them myself. The full pictures are available on our blog post about modifications (http://www.thedarienplan.com/2008/09/fixing-up-our-element-for-road.html) we've done, but here are the details:

For the window screens, I bought mosquito netting from EMS, and elastic drawstring, large beads, and cord locks at the West Concord 5 and 10, the local Concord Massachusetts general store. The screens fit over the open front door and can be cinched tight once the door is shut to form a closer seal. The fabric seems to be withstanding the door opening and shutting, but we'll see how it does after repeated use.

Great job k! A simple, but elegent solution.

I love your blog site! Can I come too!:D

Was just playing around with putting screens in moonlight and back passenger windows.

1st- Moonlight; cut a 24x31 screen and pushed it into the rubber flap that trims the ceiling upholstery, seems to work. Isn't pretty but will do the job.

2nd- Back passenger windows; cut the same 24x31 so I'm not fumbling for differ sizes at night. Open doors and on back door draped screen over door and tucked into rubber seal. Closed doors, rolled up excess and pushed into opening.

Both are ghetto methods but will do the job, I'm sure someone has devised some great system better than mine, would love to hear them.

I know Skreenz (www.skreenz.com) makes a set for the E for the front windows. They also make one for moonlight. Cheers :)

thanks for the info. I am going to play around with making frames for the moonlight and back side window.. The one thing I like about not making frames though is when I'm done sleeping I can roll the screens up and pack away easily.

I believe I saw that Honda or a after market honda screen is available for the moonlight. But it looks like the moonlight glass need to be out.

the old strip magnets from the rubber seal on a fridge can be cut to length and sewn into a hem surrounding the screen material giving an easy on / off for when one is in need of the screen , this would work on the exterior of the side windows leaving the interior control operable but look ' ghetto ' on the exterior , the seal would be great allowing no pesky bugs inside except perhaps for the ' noseeums ' ;-) , 10 minutes at the sewing machine would 'net' you a pair of side vent screens for little to no cost , an appliance recycler could give you the strip magnet material for free... just exacto knife it out of its rubber casing ... :smile:

For the back windows, I used adhesive-backed magnetic strip (available at most hardware stores) and hot-glued the screen material to it. Yes it does look ghetto, but at a campground who cares?

the old strip magnets from the rubber seal on a fridge can be cut to length and sewn into a hem surrounding the screen material giving an easy on / off

For $30, you can get a pair of screens made this way to fit the E from a company called Skeeter Beater (http://www.theskeeterbeater.com/index.html). Think I might go for it.

Piglet, if you buy them, please post a report.

yes Piggy please respond if you get the Klondike screen form them. Looks like a good idea.. Might be buying them if you give it a good response.

I like to leave my rear windows popped open when I'm at work. It gives the hot air a place to vent so my E is not cooking while I'm away. Unfortunately, I wok at an environmental center ... so we have bugs. I'd love a way to have a screen that mounts inside my E that would keep he little pests out during the day. Anyone have any ideas for the inside?

Original screen lady here with an update.

I emailed theskeeterbeater cos none of there pics had visors on the doors. Here's there response which really didn't answer my question about visors.

Hi Gail,

If the screen is deep and wide enough to allow for the vent it should still work fine. You'll need to pull the the sides taught so there's no gaps around the edges. I have no idea which screen will work on your back doors however! If you look at our Fit Guide page we have the measurements of each screen drawn out at the bottom of the page. These are the finished sizes so be sure to allow 1-2 inch overlap when measuring your windows so the magnets adhere to the metal frame. Call or email if you have any other questions.


Thanks for the inquiry,
Mona Lorne
MARKETING DIRECTOR
Timco Industries, LLC
636-322-0022 office
314-346-6675 cell

Theskeeterbeater.com
skeeterinfo@theskeeterbeater.co

Did send an email to skreenz got a much better response. Chuck is looking to add new items this year. I send him detailed info with pics today.

I tried to make a set to match the skreenz front doors but ran into to may obstacles. Next tried Ramblerdan's idea which worked except I couldn't get strong strip magnets quickly yesterday. Could only get from the craft store. It's on but I'm not happy & took me 5 hours to make.

Hopefully Chuck will get back to me soon & I will pass the info along.

Gaily

They will make them but they are pricey. While I would love to get a free pair, should others be interested, I don't have time to set this up right now. National meet is less than 2 weeks away.

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OK, we have figured out how to do this... We would use our super strong, rare earth magnets like we use on the sun roof and make it fit on the outside. We would have to sew a gusset into the back edge to accommodate the open window. The critical item is the placement of the magnets in the pattern where the door bulges out below the window on the outside of the door.

Here is the deal: It will cost us about $150 to make a pattern, test it, and then create a permanent hard template from which to cut all future rear door Skreenz for the Honda Element. To eliminate the pattern cost, we need three orders at the same time - and then give us about 3-4 weeks to drive to a dealer in Asheville to start working on the pattern. It will take 3-6 trips before we have it thoroughly tested and a template made. If you send us three orders we will make yours for free (four orders total). The rare earth magnets are very expensive so we will need to know if you would want a single Skreenz (left or right door) or a pair. Our current estimate is they would cost about $59 each or $115 for a pair, plus $15 UPS shipping.

Gaily

Velcro'd rear opening.

I'll be doing a lot of camping in my E soon and I was wondering if anybody had fashioned any bug screens for the front windows and the rear hatch. I was going to just keep it simple and cut out some screen material, roll and glue the edges and then just use soft magnets to keep the screen in place but if somebody has a really cool trick I'd like to know before I get started on this.

Thanks

Welcome!

Right here!

http://www.skreenz.com/products.htm

$90 per skreen?! Whoa! I think I'll try to make mine. That would be roughly $180 for just the front two windows, not including the back hatch, which I would assume would be more than that.

It says $90 for a pair. Does that mean the 2 screens used for ONE window? or do they mean the set up for both windows?

Also interested, but $90 seems a bit steep, my fog lights didn't even cost that much.

$90 per skreen?! Whoa! I think I'll try to make mine. That would be roughly $180 for just the front two windows, not including the back hatch, which I would assume would be more than that.

That is $90.00 for both the front doors.

The price for Front Door Window Skreenz™ is $90 for a pair plus $8 packing/shipping.

Here you go:

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=863708&postcount=1

Love this idea! Is there any other parts of the thread that explain the type of material they used? or what is cost them? I'm willing to velcro my car :)

$90 is maybe a little high, but it's a case of what you get. I don't have them, but I have a neighbor who has them on his conversion van, and they are pretty slick. Plus they already have done all the measuring, cutting, and sewing to give a more finished look. In addition they are made right here in the US, and I like supporting the types of small businesses that turn out products like this.

Here's a pic of the skreenz on an E, from their website.

http://www.skreenz.com/graphics/Waldie.JPG

Here's a much less expensive solution, $4 per door, available at most large sporting good centers.

Coghlans Stroller Mosquito Net / Coghlan's Infant Stroller Playpen Mosquito Net

Item# C9915
Product Description
Coghlans Stroller Mosquito Net protects infants against mosquitoes, bees, and other flying insects in the great outdoors.

* Fine knitted polyester mesh
* Elastic hem
* Fits most carriages, strollers, baby carriers, and over most "playpens".
* Size: 48" X 48"

http://www.coghlanscampinggear.com/coinstplmone.html

I keep one packed with my camping gear. It "installs by stretching over the entire front or rear door. Window/ door operation is unaffected.

Working from memory, I mis-stated the coverage of the front door. :014:

The 9915 does work with it. It fits snugly over the top and bottom and swing edge, but only reaches forward to the rear edge of the side view mirror's base. It lays flat enough that there's no appreciable gap there.

I've never needed more ventilation than I could get using it on the rear door. By the middle of the night I usually had to close the window to stay warm.

http://www.theskeeterbeater.com/
is a more generic brand of window screens, with something like a half dozen sizes. For a while selected Walmart stores where selling these, or something similar, as a seasonal item

http://www.theskeeterbeater.com/
is a more generic brand of window screens, with something like a half dozen sizes. For a while selected Walmart stores where selling these, or something similar, as a seasonal item

Just $45/pair incl shipping. Waddadeal.

Just returned from a camping trip and saw an E with a rear vent window screen / cover. It appeared to fit the window in the popped open position but I can't be sure if it was a custom fit. It was held on the outside by magnets and also had a privacy curtain that was rolled up, but could roll down. I didn't want to invade anyone's privacy so I only got a glance. Anyone seen this? Defnitely wasn't one of the Screenz or Skeeterbeater versions that I've seen on here or google search. I've got a pretty good idea for a DIY version but hate to spend the money or time if there's aready one out there.

Just returned from a camping trip and saw an E with a rear vent window screen / cover. It appeared to fit the window in the popped open position but I can't be sure if it was a custom fit. It was held on the outside by magnets and also had a privacy curtain that was rolled up, but could roll down. I didn't want to invade anyone's privacy so I only got a glance. Anyone seen this? Defnitely wasn't one of the Screenz or Skeeterbeater versions that I've seen on here or google search. I've got a pretty good idea for a DIY version but hate to spend the money or time if there's aready one out there.

deff should have asked. don't think ive ever seen anyone that was camping put off by strangers approaching them. sounds cool

wonder if we could group think a hatch screen. i'm going to need one in a couple of months. i have to be able to lay the bottom of the hatch out since i'm 6'5, so the skreenz one won't work for me

deff should have asked. don't think ive ever seen anyone that was camping put off by strangers approaching them. sounds cool

wonder if we could group think a hatch screen. i'm going to need one in a couple of months. i have to be able to lay the bottom of the hatch out since i'm 6'5, so the skreenz one won't work for me
I'm not shy about chatting up other campers, especially those with cool rigs and rides. I just didn't see anyone at the site so they were either out on the beach or shacked up in the car. This seemed to be tent material with tent mesh. Even if it wasn't, my prototype I've already drawn up is. I'm about to hack up an old tent that's busted and get creative.

... an image of the neighbor on tv knocking at the door with the excuse of needing a cup of sugar just popped into my mind...:shock:

A variation of other ideas that developed as I proceeded. This isn't what I had in mind but actually works better. I cut a 48" wide piece of standard screen material with enough to lay over the top of the door 2-3" inside. A couple packs of 99 cent magnets from Harbor Freight to secure it around the window. I put a couple on the inside of the door frame at the top for good measure. For simplicity's sake I just used some cloth border material and stapled the edges together at the top.


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll249/pedalspics/Elementscreen2.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll249/pedalspics/Elementscreen1.jpg

The magnets are strong enough to keep the screen tight against the door and spaced evenly enough that no bugs are likely to get inside. Since the screen is held up by the door you can open and close the door without disturbing the screens and raise or lower the window.
I'll have to see if this affects the paint. If I would use them the weather would be calm enough to have the windows open anyway. If need be I could put fabric on the surface.

I'm not shy about chatting up other campers, especially those with cool rigs and rides. I just didn't see anyone at the site so they were either out on the beach or shacked up in the car. This seemed to be tent material with tent mesh. Even if it wasn't, my prototype I've already drawn up is. I'm about to hack up an old tent that's busted and get creative.

you should have climbed inside and took a nap. strip down to boxers, kick off your shoes, scratch yourself for good measure. modern day Goldilocks!