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5th
04-08-2005, 01:20 PM
Check this Element out!

Aloha,
5th

PVR
04-08-2005, 02:01 PM
I might be a little worried driving an Element in Russia. It has a sort of military appearance that might attract the wrong kind of attention.

wankerklink
04-08-2005, 02:10 PM
Maybe that's the KGB tailgating him.

joemama
04-08-2005, 02:14 PM
I didn't know they drove right hand drive cars in Russia. I thought it was only countries with some sort of British affilation (current or past). I guess I'm wrong.

From the photo it kinda looks like they drive on the wrong side of the road for right hand drive. I guess it's just the camera angle.

Joe Mama

PVR
04-08-2005, 02:26 PM
I didn't know they drove right hand drive cars in Russia. I thought it was only countries with some sort of British affilation (current or past). I guess I'm wrong.

From the photo it kinda looks like they drive on the wrong side of the road for right hand drive. I guess it's just the camera angle.

Joe Mama

Yeah that pic is a little odd.

Russia is not a right hand drive country but there are a number of countries that have no relationship with Britain that drive on the left side of the road among them Indonesia, Japan and Thailand.

wankerklink
04-08-2005, 02:37 PM
I didn't know they drove right hand drive cars in Russia. I thought it was only countries with some sort of British affilation (current or past). I guess I'm wrong.

From the photo it kinda looks like they drive on the wrong side of the road for right hand drive. I guess it's just the camera angle.

Joe Mama
I think your right. They are on the wrong side of the road. It's Russia??????

joemama
04-08-2005, 02:37 PM
Asian counties I can kind of understand. Didn't the British give up Hong Kong rule/infulence not too long ago? Everything came and went out of Hong Kong no matter what country it headed to or from. Hong Kong was the hub for that part of the world.

cidrivera58
04-08-2005, 04:42 PM
Doesn't it also seem as if they're driving on the sidewalk?

Tessa Y
04-08-2005, 04:45 PM
Doesn't it also seem as if they're driving on the sidewalk?
Thats how they control the population.

5th
04-08-2005, 04:49 PM
Here is the web site where I got the pic.

http://asjornal.ru/artic04/39test1.shtml

Aloha, :lol:
5th

TaILoIN
04-08-2005, 05:04 PM
Here is the web site where I got the pic. It looks like russian language to me. so, I assumed it was Russia. It may not be Russia ,but a russian speaking country...

http://asjornal.ru/artic04/39test1.shtml

Aloha, :lol:
5th

THE ".RU" MEANS ITS FROM RUSSIA....AT LEAST THE WEB PAGE IS. :-D

5th
04-08-2005, 05:07 PM
It is Russia. Look close at the license plate.

Aloha,
5th

5th
04-08-2005, 05:11 PM
here is a picture of it...

5th

Hondamade4dogs
04-08-2005, 06:09 PM
Is that a Russian Monkey too ! :lol: On the dash Board ?

MikeQBF
04-08-2005, 06:41 PM
Like PVR said, Russia is a left-hand driver country, and they drive on the right side of the road like us.

In all likelihood that is a Japanese-market E. It would even make some sense if that picture was from, say, Kamchatka.

[mind-numbing trivia]

The one thing that I remember that's "weird" about Russian transport is their 5-foot gauge railroads, while Europe (and the Americas) use 4' 8-1/2" gauge. It was deliberate, if I recall, to stop everything at the border to force a mode change.

[/mind-numbing trivia]

EZ
04-09-2005, 12:22 AM
[mind-numbing trivia]

The one thing that I remember that's "weird" about Russian transport is their 5-foot gauge railroads, while Europe (and the Americas) use 4' 8-1/2" gauge. It was deliberate, if I recall, to stop everything at the border to force a mode change.

[/mind-numbing trivia]

I also heared that it was deliberate. Russia was ensuring that in case of war, neighbouring countries can not just roll their troops across the border. I think that was part of defence strategy.

EZ
04-09-2005, 12:30 AM
Also keep in mind that Russia was bordering germany for a long while - from about Katherine the Great till 1917. Poland did not exist as a country, being divided between Russia and Germany. During that time, and up to 1945, Russia fought several wars with Germany, so having incompatible railroad standards really made sence.

joemama
04-09-2005, 09:17 PM
Either way that person should act like a good westerner and waste some natural resources (H2O) and wash that Element. It's filthy.

Joe Mama

dj se7en
04-09-2005, 10:38 PM
NOW it looks russian.... Ok, I was bored....

LEGO MY E
04-10-2005, 12:31 AM
NOW it looks russian.... Ok, I was bored....

LMAO! Thanks, DJ! :)

Regarding the H2O comment above, perhaps they're worried that the nuclear contamination in the water will damage the paint?

j_m_m
04-10-2005, 05:46 PM
Anyone notice the side marker lights? Whats up with those. They look clear to me... :confused:

Sheniferous
04-10-2005, 07:08 PM
Anyone notice the side marker lights? Whats up with those. They look clear to me... :confused:

That's a Japanese E, imported to Russia of course. The JDM e's panels have clear turn signal markers as shown in the pictures.

cidrivera58
04-11-2005, 12:35 AM
Thats how they control the population.

Ahhhh....Russian birth control...you da' man!

crt2000
05-12-2005, 01:03 AM
As for the truck in the picture, I didn't know the KGB drove Nissans. I thought they would drive unmarked cars with dark windows. :)

Chris~

crt2000
05-12-2005, 01:32 AM
this is what was translated form that russian site about the E:

Element - this of stranger. No, of course, not because it is similar to that vile reptile, in veins of which runs the acid. First, there is no series analog of this machine in the world, and in the second place, so unexpectedly it was obtain this surprise from Honda. Automobile "from from anywhere", automobile- paradox. It completely not in the spirit of this firm, although there is and sufficiently untypical Sm- X and StepWgn, Stream and Capa, this "revelry" of the fantasy of designers, designers and marketologov of so serious a firm became unexpected contingency. It is very similar to those student diploma projects, for which the young designers obtain the highest estimation, but who are too daring in order to personify them as commodity product. Similar in its time was VehiCross, by the way, from that related To "khonde" Isuzu. Really Honda did risk? It is completely possibly, indeed it is known that the firm sends to practice its young engineers into the department, which is occupied avtosportom. What does lead to the appearance of predators - such, as the modifications of the different models Type R, Ns- X and finally S2000. probably, there is no need for explaining, why 4 they did add to the force of carnivorous?

Stranger against the predator. Element against S2000? To devise anything more foolish? Perhaps what to compare completely identical machines. Thus, stranger against the predator? Element substantially remained in the dynamics of acceleration and heels in the turnings, then S2000 got stuck and stripped bottom and the "skirt" of the front bumper, when 20 times moved out from the asphalt and smothered, until it reaches to piknichok organized by friends. Even not fantasy. Nonsense? Sheerest! Certainly, they live in the different layers of automobile "space" and do not dispute with each other. Perhaps that in nothing the significant "garage" disputes: "4 such it did not take - where on it? The whether matter this... "-" well, how to say... ".


Then is united their (furthermore, that this Honda) uniqueness. Automobile- dream. The owner of "element" began to dream about it since 1999, when it they presented on The detroytskom auto-salon as concept- penalty ModelX. Exactly when S2000 arose to the conveyor. Its first prototype - Honda SSM was shown even 1995- m, in that same, when the idea of the creation of uncommon youth automobile only was borne. Element always lagged behind S2000 to one step. And it appeared in sale 2003- m, when S2000 already expected the first modernization. Stranger is more mysterious. First, if S2000 can be without ceremony classified as rodster which already implies by itself sport two-place automobile with the folding roof, then Element - this something, entering not one of the known sizes. There is, true, this diffuse concept - "automobile for the active means of life". Like as by these is said everything... and nothing. And that for the mysterious name? It is blown by the fantasy of the "5th element"? New element? Missing element? Element of style? The elementary particle? It is elementary - it is simple? Element - detail? But it can, all this together - either something completely different or it does mean nothing, so - random sampling, joke - let they do break heads, coma something to study? Name is many-sided as planes, of which "are folded" the features of machine. The whether matter S2000 - here to you and the volume of engine, and yr, which symbolizes the beginning of new millenium. Letter S - "sport" and revival of a byloy series of the high-speed two-place sport machines of the 60th is annual. And appearance unambiguously expresses the essence: "I will break as rag". Everything is elementary...

however, Element - that this such? To me it does not seem rough and unpolished, as they hurried it to describe some publications. In my opinion it very amusing. It is similar to the toy. To the soft. Even I know, to what little beast. This is panda. A little clumsy, but in the motley coloring. But inside - this is Swiss knife, it it is possible to it takes a long time spread, by studying and immediately without surmising about the destination of one or other blade or another. Frivolous outwardly, but the exemplarily organized and assembled inside automobile.

You do remember the film, when boy was moved into the body of adult, that worked at the plant of toys? To him were unknown the rules of etiquette and business contact, but for the knowledge of object it immediately went upward along the career stairs, leaving behind in bewilderment and powerless spite of experienced managers. To whom, as not to child, to know that it is necessary for child? So here. Automobile was developed by young engineers "for itself". Although, after being absorbed in, they "began to play", and automobile came out very expensive for that age category, for which it were designed. To the rich parents it is not possible to make rate in the positioning on the market. It costs as the minimum to five thousand dollars more expensive than "papin" Cr- v. Therefore there are fears for the longevity of machine on the conveyor. It is very it's a pity, if it understands fate Isuzu VehiCross. That was not held in the production and 5 years - not too many originals proved to be, ready to lay out sufficiently large sum for that in order to be not such, as everything. Automobile- error. But the best recollections left about itself. "you was not rights and everything burnt per hour, and in the hour the large bonfire of ugas, but in this hour it became all brighten..." Better vividly to sgoret' than slowly to rot...


The filling of the machine of secret from itself presents nothing. Element uses all aggregates from the second generation Honda Cr- v. the same 2,4- liter engine with the "reasonable" system of a change in the phases, which is established on the limited series of these jeeps (although in the bulk they 2- liter), the same 4- stepped automatic gearbox, the same system of complete drive with the automatic connection of rear axle with the slippage of front by means of the dual pump, the same principally suspension. Just as the "donor", does not have not reducing gear, not blockings. Certainly, "to develop" the automobile completely of sense not was neither practical nor logical. But also to name it simply Cr- in would be error. Cr- in the second generation even without that it came out by questionable machine. But if them it did become Element? This "steba" would not estimate the seriously "disrupted" proportions, the absence of traditional bumper, some special expression of headlights, "unimportant" knobs of doors and mirror, rounded planes of roof, cowling, sidewalls and elements of body panels isolated with color. Two-colored coloring - this is not simple the element of design, this still thought and as function. That which "is flooded" by gray color - this is the nekrashenyy plastic, afraid of either scratches or light impacts. Similar solution is encountered also in "serious" machines - Audi Allroad, for example. It is possible to be passed on the bushes, but it is necessary whether, indeed doors "are defenseless". So that, is faster, this nevertheless decoration under the "function". Yes even possibilities on the passability are limited.


Then are unconfined the possibilities of salon. It is enormous and surprising. Let us begin from the doors. Although this not of door in the usual idea, but, are faster, the gates, which are opened to the different sides and which free more than 1.5-meter range. This solution no longer novelty, it adapts in the different machines and on the pick-ups, and on sportkupe, but only the advantages of a similar method are used most fully in this machine. I.e., because of this construction, into the enormous salon actual not problem to bring in snoubordy, bicycles and other attributes of the active means of life. If weather is spoiled, then in the salon, using limitless possibilities of its transformation and unique materials, it is possible to continue the picnic initiated. Well, and if it is normal with the weather, then children on leisure can, after throwing open to door, to use a machine as obstacle in the games in dogonyashki, passing through it. In this case it is possible not to fear that they will hurt or will bring mud inward. If we move aside the rear seats back to the support, then they generally not at all overlap aperture, allowing whole clearing for the games, but floor throughout entire machine absolutely flat. Moreover the possibilities of transformation seem limitless, somewhere it read - there are almost fifty versions "to change the situation" in the machine. Something is difficult to represent. It is possible to move the rear seats independently of each other, it is possible to discard them to the wall or to remove entirely, to decompose all seats into the convenient sofa, in this case contents of baggage carrier to hang up under the ceiling into the special bag. What still? Apparently, it is necessary to be occupied more densely by this. But how much trifle it is possible to push aside on the countless pockets in the doors, the baggage carrier, to shelves on the front panel and even on the ceiling - it is complicated to present.


Well, and the bargaining asset - these are the materials, used in the upholstering. Certainly, this is complicated to psychologically make for the first time, but salon can be washed directly from the hose or "kerkhera" on the washing. Dada, directly so to pour on. Floor is covered with the rubberized "linoleum", seat from the watertight cloth, the plastic of upholstering being easily washed.

crt2000
05-12-2005, 01:35 AM
After the control not that so that "prikol'no", but is not boring. Here there is no sorting. As there is no reminding about the "normal" Honda, besides emblem on the control in tekhnostile. The "trekhglazaya" combination of instruments with the amusing numbering and the color of the scales plus is the circle of the "chrome-plated" deflector of ventilation, in one style with them even three adjustment knobs heating systems on the console, below by which "torchit" selector AKP. Everything! This is entire panel of instruments. To smokers here not place - either prikurivatelya or ash trays.


"ordinary itself" in this machine - this is motion. In principle, separately it is differed in no way from ancestor Cr- v. although of special feature is. By situation itself is created entirely another - "optimistic" - attitude, entirely another "survey" and sensation of space, because of the large shelf of "torpedo". After passing along the dirt road, it seemed that to machine it is pleasant to be rolled on the waves of unevennesses, it as if softly it is stolen on them. And to passengers entirely good. The synthetic upholstering of armchairs does not cause discomfort. In them even it is more comfortable than in the slippery leather sofas "of lux- salons". On asphalt Element it is so friendly to the passengers - are not arranged by them shakings and it does not rock to sleep. In this case it very "living" and maneuverability, because of 160 horsepower under the cowling. Only, which can distract from the conversations about the fact that the life is excellent in all its manifestations - this is increased noise of wind at the high speeds because of the special features of aerodynamics of uncommon body.
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Hope you enjoyed this, Chris~

QKMPULSE
05-12-2005, 01:48 AM
Hey Crt2000,

"Well, and the bargaining asset - these are the materials, used in the upholstering. Certainly, this is complicated to psychologically make for the first time, but salon can be washed directly from the hose or "kerkhera" on the washing. Dada, directly so to pour on. Floor is covered with the rubberized "linoleum", seat from the watertight cloth, the plastic of upholstering being easily washed."

Just wait'll some Ruskie tries to "HOSE" out his interior and fry's the SRS system!
!NYET

Thx, Phil

crt2000
05-12-2005, 02:33 AM
HAHAHA!!! :lol:

Chris~

Bianco
05-12-2005, 04:35 AM
It's also got the cigarette lighter and "AUTO" A/C of the japanese model E.

wankerklink
05-12-2005, 07:51 AM
Hey CRT2000 ! Thanks for the translation. :confused: :lol:

booggerg
05-12-2005, 08:46 AM
WTF is that little vent for on the lip of the storage compartment... weird!

Phoenixology
05-12-2005, 09:03 AM
WTF is that little vent for on the lip of the storage compartment... weird!

JUST going to ask that...

Funktional
05-12-2005, 09:21 AM
The vent is there as a temp sensor for the Auto climate control system. That is where the system takes it's reading for cabin temperature.

You can also notice that this Element has a fuel filler door release right below the hood release in the lower right hand portion of the picture.

booggerg
05-12-2005, 02:02 PM
I guess fuel siphoning is a common practice in mother russia.

PVR
05-12-2005, 02:04 PM
...You can also notice that this Element has a fuel filler door release right below the hood release in the lower right hand portion of the picture.

:-o Wish we had that here wonder why Honda didn't include that on all versions?

crt2000
05-13-2005, 12:19 AM
No problem, I thought you'd get a kick out of it.

Chris~

lae10851
05-14-2005, 09:37 PM
Should we take offense to the Alien (aka Stranger) reference????

chimphappyhour
05-14-2005, 10:35 PM
Wow, I'll have to have my wife read that, my russian sucks. I'll bet she just about has a heart attack at the translation (sorry crt). It looks maybe like it came out of a translation website? The translation seems to literal and they tend to not use a lot of the "useless" words we use, so a translator who understands both languages usually has to put them back in.

On a side note, my wife says that in most cases, if you come across people in Russia who own cars, they are either foreigners or they are doing something illegal. And as booggreg mentioned, if it isn't bolted down, their economy is bad enough that it will "disappear". An apartment buiding exploded a year ot two ago because a couple of guys stole the brass gas fittings to sell as scrap metal! :shock: All the western shops and conveniences (including McDonald's) still charge pretty much western prices, yet few over there make even close to a western wage.

paulj
05-14-2005, 11:42 PM
You can also notice that this Element has a fuel filler door release right below the hood release in the lower right hand portion of the picture.

I'd have to double check the Japanese Element manual, but I think the gas filler door cable release is standard on the Japanese model.
paulj

crt2000
05-15-2005, 03:18 AM
Yeah as a matter of fact I did use Alta Vista for the translation. I figured they are pretty reliable as far as translations go. Still it gives you an idea of what they think of the Element over there I guess.I've never been to Russia, but I heard alot has changed since the old days of standing in long lines to buy toilet paper. Is the economy so much worse than the US?

Chris~

P.S. I'd like to see a Russian Element bearing a Russian flag, might be cool to see I dunno.

GUNRUNNER_E
08-25-2005, 02:26 AM
[B]ARE YOU ALL REALLY THAT STUPID??? FOR E'S SAKE!!!

THERE ARE ONLY 3-4 COUNTRIES THAT DRIVE ON THE LEFT-SIDE:
1) BRITS
2) JAPS
3) AUSSIES
4) INDONESIA (IF I REMEBER RIGHT!)

RUSSIA, LIKE THE REST OF EUROPE (BESIDES THAT DAMN BRITISH ISLAND!) DRIVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD...JUST LIKE GOOD OL' USA!
They might still be a bunch of commies, but at least they drive right!

How dumb can 4 people be? C'mon people, us "E" folks ought to be brighter then that!

P.S. I enjoy the Japanese culture a lot, as I travel there quite a bit, so the "JAPS" is not a racists thing or some other heart-bleeding bullcrap....just street talk.

Bianco
08-25-2005, 03:17 AM
New Zealand drives on the left. I rented a car there once, because I didnt have time to continue hitchhiking. And, they are not "Brits", they are "Kiwis" .....

Bianco
08-25-2005, 04:39 AM
Hmmm... Its just one google click away, but that didn't seem to stop you. I think you miscounted. It seems you left out a few:

R Drive on the right-hand side of the road (and mostly the driver sits on the left side of the car).
L Drive on the left-hand side of the road (and mostly the driver sits on the right side of the car).

R Afghanistan
R Albania
R Algeria
R American Samoa
R Andorra
R Angola
L Anguilla
L Antigua and Barbuda
R Argentina
R Armenia
R Aruba
L Australia
R Austria
R Azerbaijan
L Bahamas
R Bahrain
L Bangladesh
L Barbados
R Belarus
R Belgium
R Belize
R Benin
L Bermuda
L Bhutan
R Bolivia
R Bosnia and Herzegovina
L Botswana
R Brazil
R British Indian Ocean Territory (Diego Garcia)
L Brunei
R Bulgaria
R Burkina Faso
R Burundi
R Cambodia
R Cameroon
R Canada
R Cape Verde
L Cayman Islands
R Central African Republic
R Chad
R Chile
R China, People's Republic of (Mainland China)
L Christmas Island (Australia)
L Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
R Colombia
R Comoros
R Congo
L Cook Islands
R Costa Rica
R Croatia
R Cuba
L Cyprus
R Czech Republic
R Denmark
R Djibouti
L Dominica
R Dominican Republic
L East Timor
R Ecuador
R Egypt
R El Salvador
R Equatorial Guinea
R Eritrea
R Estonia
R Ethiopia
L Falkland Islands
R Faroe Islands (Denmark)
L Fiji
R Finland
R France
R French Guiana
R French Polynesia
R Gabon
R Gambia, The
R Gaza Strip
R Georgia
R Germany
R Ghana
R Gibraltar
R Greece
R Greenland
L Grenada
R Guadeloupe (French West Indies)
R Guam
R Guatemala
L Guernsey (Channel Islands)
R Guinea
R Guinea-Bissau
L Guyana
R Haiti
R Honduras
L Hong Kong
R Hungary
R Iceland
L India
L Indonesia
R Iran
R Iraq
L Ireland
R Israel
L Isle of Man
R Italy
R Ivory Coast
L Jamaica
L Japan
L Jersey (Channel Islands)
R Jordan
R Kazakhstan
L Kenya
L Kiribati
R Korea, Democratic People's Republic of (North Korea)
R Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
R Kuwait
R Kyrgyzstan
R Laos
R Latvia
R Lebanon
L Lesotho
R Liberia
R Libya
R Liechtenstein
R Lithuania
R Luxembourg
L Macau
R Macedonia
R Madagascar
L Malawi
L Malaysia
L Maldives
R Mali
L Malta
R Marshall Islands
R Martinique (French West Indies)
R Mauritania
L Mauritius
R Mayotte (France)
R Mexico
R Micronesia, Federated States of
R Midway Islands (USA)
R Moldova
R Monaco
R Mongolia
L Montserrat
R Morocco
L Mozambique
R Myanmar (Burma)
L Namibia
L Nauru
L Nepal
R Netherlands
R Netherlands Antilles (Curacao, St. Maarten, St. Eustatius, Saba)
R New Caledonia
L New Zealand
R Nicaragua
R Niger
R Nigeria
L Niue
L Norfolk Island (Australia)
R Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan)
R Norway
R Oman
L Pakistan
R Palau
R Panama
L Papua New Guinea
R Paraguay
R Peru
R Philippines
L Pitcairn Islands (Britain)
R Poland
R Portugal
R Puerto Rico
R Qatar
R Reunion
R Romania
R Russia
R Rwanda
R Saint Barthélemy (French West Indies)
L Saint Helena
L Saint Kitts and Nevis
L Saint Lucia
R Saint Martin (French West Indies)
R Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France)
L Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
R Samoa
R San Marino
R Sao Tome e Principe
R Saudi Arabia
R Senegal
L Seychelles
R Sierra Leone
L Singapore
R Slovakia
R Slovenia
L Solomon Islands
R Somalia (a part of Somalia trying to assert independence, Somaliland, also drives on the right)
L South Africa
R Spain
L Sri Lanka
R Sudan
L Suriname
R Svalbard (Norway)
L Swaziland
R Sweden
R Switzerland
R Syria
R Taiwan
R Tajikistan
L Tanzania
L Thailand
R Togo
L Tokelau (New Zealand)
L Tonga
L Trinidad and Tobago
R Tunisia
R Turkey
R Turkmenistan
L Turks and Caicos Islands
L Tuvalu
L Uganda
R Ukraine
R United Arab Emirates
L United Kingdom
R United States
R Uruguay
R Uzbekistan
R Vanuatu
R Venezuela
R Vietnam
L Virgin Islands (British)
L Virgin Islands (US)
R Wake Island (USA)
R Wallis and Futuna Islands [Fr.]
R West Bank
R Western Sahara (ex Spanish Sahara)
R Yemen
R Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)
R Zaire
L Zambia
L Zimbabwe

PaddleMe
08-26-2005, 08:30 AM
[QUOTE=GUNRUNNER_E][B]ARE YOU ALL REALLY THAT STUPID??? FOR E'S SAKE!!!

THERE ARE ONLY 3-4 COUNTRIES THAT DRIVE ON THE LEFT-SIDE:
1) BRITS
2) JAPS
3) AUSSIES
4) INDONESIA (IF I REMEBER RIGHT!)

Well, these and the second most-populated country on earth, India :-)

JPprivate
08-26-2005, 09:37 AM
Ok - Russia drives on the right-hand side (like US, Canada etc.), that would mean the steering wheel is on the left. But on the pic it's not on the left!!
It's on the right, meaning the country has left hand traffic. And it's not an import (from Japan, UK etc.) because the truck behind it has the steering wheel also on the right. Am I missing something... ?

Lop77
08-31-2005, 06:41 AM
Pls Any One Knows Why Some Americans So Dummy Stupid While They Are Discussing Something About Russia?!

For Those Who Are Into Stupid Ideas, Pls Stop Watching Cold War’s Period Movies About Soviet Union And Russia, It Could Help Your Mind To Release Stupid Knowledge Of Kgb And Other Exotic Things About Russia!

Pls Look Around And Criticize First Something That Near You… It Might Help ….

Good Luck!

PhyrePhoxe
08-31-2005, 08:11 AM
What is up with this guy.

Pls Any One Knows Why Some Americans So Dummy Stupid While They Are Discussing Something About Russia?!

Pls Look Around And Criticize First Something That Near You… It Might Help ….

There must be something lost in translation. I don't think anyone was criticizing anybody. I think the gist of the humor was poking fun at the sterotypes of Russia. So lighten up....

chimphappyhour
08-31-2005, 08:52 AM
I dunno. Can't be anything I said, my wife used to live in Russia before I met her. The rest of her family still does. I would think that her comments would be pretty valid. She is actually back visiting family right now and it seems things have gotten a little worse since she was last there. Prices of everything have gone up, a lot of their food costs almost the same as here, Moscow is more expensive than here and the average wage is well below here and usually just barely covers an apartment. This apartment may have water one day, another it may not. It might have hot water one day, it may not (especially in winter). It may have electricity, or it might not, on any given day. The average demeanor among Russians would be considered rude by western standards. I've run into this several times. Do I need to go on? Actually, I need to go to work.

E-Ticket
08-31-2005, 09:00 AM
From the photo it kinda looks like they drive on the wrong side of the road for right hand drive. I guess it's just the camera angle.
I think that it's a traffic circle, in which case all traffic would be going in one direction and no right/left distinction.

Lop77
08-31-2005, 09:33 AM
I dunno. Can't be anything I said, my wife used to live in Russia before I met her. The rest of her family still does. I would think that her comments would be pretty valid. She is actually back visiting family right now and it seems things have gotten a little worse since she was last there. Prices of everything have gone up, a lot of their food costs almost the same as here, Moscow is more expensive than here and the average wage is well below here and usually just barely covers an apartment. This apartment may have water one day, another it may not. It might have hot water one day, it may not (especially in winter). It may have electricity, or it might not, on any given day. The average demeanor among Russians would be considered rude by western standards. I've run into this several times. Do I need to go on? Actually, I need to go to work.
I do not trying to be rude, but you can not say in general about Russia! If you had bad experiences,
pls do not make others to believe that Russia is third world!!! Every country has dark and bright side, and Russian right now is 50/50
Come on, your example is for Americans who is learning about world from CNN, and think that all Russians wearing fur-cup! Everything is relatively comparable.

Lop77
08-31-2005, 10:54 AM
TO EVERY ONE

THE CAR ON PHOTO IS RIGHT SIDE STEERING WHEEL, MADE IN JAPAN AND BROUGHT TO RUSSIA (BECAUSE OF RUSSIAN TAG ON IT)

THE ARTICLE IS LYRICAL DIGRESSION about TWO HONDA CARS (Honda Element\Honda S2000) NOTHING ELSE, JUST SOME OF JOURNALIST DECIDED TO BE A STORY WRITER!

PHOTOS SHOT IN IRKUTSK, RUSSIA (THERE IS LOTS OF CARS WITH RIGHT SIDE STEERING WHEEL FROM JAPAN)

chimphappyhour
08-31-2005, 08:06 PM
I do not trying to be rude, but you can not say in general about Russia! If you had bad experiences,
pls do not make others to believe that Russia is third world!!! Every country has dark and bright side, and Russian right now is 50/50
Come on, your example is for Americans who is learning about world from CNN, and think that all Russians wearing fur-cup! Everything is relatively comparable.

There are some who are doing well in Russia, but the number is negligible. These are not my personal experiences that I state, but those who are actual Russians! Because of my wife, I have met quite a bit of the Russian and Ukranian community now residing in my city. They all still have contact with friends and family back home. None paint a rosy picture. My wife had probably the best memories out of anyone in the community, but now that she is back visiting Russia (and she is there as I write this visiting family for two months) she isn't as hot on the idea as she once was.

I'm glad for your enthusiasm about your homeland and its neighbors, but none of the Russians I know share your enthusiasm.

ShaneS
08-31-2005, 09:12 PM
The vent is there as a temp sensor for the Auto climate control system. That is where the system takes it's reading for cabin temperature.

You can also notice that this Element has a fuel filler door release right below the hood release in the lower right hand portion of the picture.

Those lucky bastards in Japan, auto climate control, I wish we we had that here. I notice an "auto" setting and numbers on the dial.

Hey maybe it will be available for the 06 EX, don't want to start rumors now lol

Kerensky
11-30-2006, 03:44 PM
I live in Russia and My Element too!

http://www.usedcars.ru/view_news.phtml?ID=7917

Any questions? I'm Happy to answer .... :cool:

PS
It's no bears in the streets ..... :-P

ann54
11-30-2006, 05:43 PM
I live in Russia and My Element too!

http://www.usedcars.ru/view_news.phtml?ID=7917

Any questions? I'm Happy to answer .... :cool:

PS
It's no bears in the streets ..... :-P


That is so cool! I loved the pictures.

dmdoka
11-30-2008, 05:13 PM
Guys, sorry to interfere with your very interesting discussion, but just one comment.
Imagine Russia is divided by Urals into 2 parts. To the West cars are mainly L-Drive, to the East - R-Drive, because they are brought from Japan. Both are allowed, but ultimately legal are only L-drive. The person can own and drive R-wheel car, no problem there, if the car fits some technical standards we have. Or the person can bribe the traffic police, also no problem there.
We have both L- and R- Elements in our small community.
About the translation - all mechanical translations are crap; please do not hesitate to ask about weird things your read, there are several people from Russia registered at EOC and a lot more are reading this forum.
We have not so many things to share with you because you are really more experienced with Es and we are just novices with it. The oldest E we have is 2,5 year old (I mean the total period of its ownership in Russia), the total number of E-club members all over Russia is around 200 (you can start laughing here :)

EMELENT
11-30-2008, 10:53 PM
Guys, sorry to interfere with your very interesting discussion, but just one comment.
Imagine Russia is divided by Urals into 2 parts. To the West cars are mainly L-Drive, to the East - R-Drive, because they are brought from Japan. Both are allowed, but ultimately legal are only L-drive. The person can own and drive R-wheel car, no problem there, if the car fits some technical standards we have. Or the person can bribe the traffic police, also no problem there.
We have both L- and R- Elements in our small community.
About the translation - all mechanical translations are crap; please do not hesitate to ask about weird things your read, there are several people from Russia registered at EOC and a lot more are reading this forum.
We have not so many things to share with you because you are really more experienced with Es and we are just novices with it. The oldest E we have is 2,5 year old (I mean the total period of its ownership in Russia), the total number of E-club members all over Russia is around 200 (you can start laughing here :)


don't worry, you are not interrupting anything. the conversation is about 2 years old. :confused:

dmdoka
12-01-2008, 03:39 PM
I was reading more fresh thread when found this. Did not pay attention on the date of the post. :shock:
I mean http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36451&page=3

nacranym
12-02-2008, 03:29 AM
nevertheless, thanks for the explanation about the Urals separating the L-drive and the R-drive regions. it's a shame we had to wait 2 years to get that explanation.

NV_05_AWD
12-02-2008, 02:02 PM
Guys, sorry to interfere with your very interesting discussion, but just one comment. :)


dmdoka,

You can comment any time! We really do enjoy your input here on the EOC!

Maybe T_Mac will make a special section for the RU Elements soon !

dmdoka
12-02-2008, 04:09 PM
We'll appreciate that :-) In some offtopic section ;-) we'll be glad to answer all your questions about our free-bear-on-the-street-walking country :roll: as well as about any other matters you could be possibly interested in.
Let's get acquainted!
I'm positive that we happen to be the biggest Element community in Europe and very fast growing. Element is ideal for our region and we believe that it is one of the worst Honda mistakes that they do not sell it here, together with Ridgeline and Acura. The market is ready.
Actually we are not fluent in the kind if English that is used on da forums so maybe this is the reason why all are rather shy. Also we have not so many things to show you because we are using your former cars.
What is common - Element unites very interesting and very different people.

kitkat123474
12-03-2008, 09:47 PM
We'll appreciate that :-) In some offtopic section ;-) we'll be glad to answer all your questions about our free-bear-on-the-street-walking country :roll: as well as about any other matters you could be possibly interested in.
Let's get acquainted!
I'm positive that we happen to be the biggest Element community in Europe and very fast growing. Element is ideal for our region and we believe that it is one of the worst Honda mistakes that they do not sell it here, together with Ridgeline and Acura. The market is ready.
Actually we are not fluent in the kind if English that is used on da forums so maybe this is the reason why all are rather shy. Also we have not so many things to show you because we are using your former cars.
What is common - Element unites very interesting and very different people.

i love elements where ever they are from :D

see, Elements should be a vehicle to bring us together... not just the different clubs, but rather the same tastes in vehicles :D

now, would the nissan cube or any other boxy cars bring us together as well? :rolleyes: we will never know...

Daman858
12-04-2008, 05:50 PM
Dear Dmdoka,

I am happy to hear that the Element is such a popular vehicle in Russia.
It certainly would be a good vehicle for those winters that you have.
I am an Element owner but also enjoy my Russian motorcycle, a 2004 Ural or Урал in Cyrillic
We have a very mild climate in South Carolina so I use my Ural to run errands and to go to the beach which is very close by. I use the Element to take my dogs to the beach or haul my fishing gear.

dmdoka
12-05-2008, 01:13 AM
Dear Dmdoka,

I am happy to hear that the Element is such a popular vehicle in Russia.
It certainly would be a good vehicle for those winters that you have.
I am an Element owner but also enjoy my Russian motorcycle, a 2004 Ural or Урал in Cyrillic
We have a very mild climate in South Carolina so I use my Ural to run errands and to go to the beach which is very close by. I use the Element to take my dogs to the beach or haul my fishing gear.

This bike is rare even in Russia, and I've never heard that they are exported. How about repairing parts? I can not recall if I ever seen such one in our town, they are mostly used in the countryside. Is it properly working?
The motobike season in St. Petersburg is from May to October, so there are few bikes here. And somewhere deep inside I'm dreaming about Goldwing, though it is not reasonable to have it in our climate (and it costs like another Element :)

Daman858
12-05-2008, 04:38 AM
dmdoka,

The Ural motorcycle is imported into the US and there are several dealers here. Parts are very easy to get because the bikes have not changed much over the years. Service and repairs are fairly simple to do and there several Ural forums like this Element forum that will help solve problems. You can check them out at www.ural.com

A Goldwing is a wonderful motorcycle and, of course, they are very popular in the US. A fully equipped Gold Wing can go for at much as $20,000 US.

dmdoka
12-05-2008, 03:40 PM
It's really amazing! Was it the simplicity that you have chosen Ural for? I mean you have access to all motorcycle brands and you've chosen Russian one, for me its like a revelation. Russia has never been known for motorcycles. Tanks - yes, jets - yes, guns - triple yes, but motorcycles... Something has changed in the small universe of my mind, maybe I'll try one by myself. Goldwing can wait.

Is it a Patrol bike you have? And it really costs 13000 $?

Daman858
12-05-2008, 05:15 PM
I have owned several BMW and Honda motorcycles (never a Goldwing, though).
I bought the Ural from another person in 2006. It is the Tourist model. The Gear-up and Patrol models have a drive shaft to the sidecar wheel so they are 2 wheel drive. They go very well in the snow and owners take them off the roads onto trails and such. I just stay on the paved roads. I bought it because I wanted something different and people love to ride in the sidecar. I stopped serious motorcycle riding because it is just too dangerous with so much traffic on the east coast of the US. I am a retired motorcycle police officer. I rode Harley Davidsons on the Baltimore Police department for many years. This photo was taken in 1975. I am the second from the left. I was a very young man then, just 29 years old. I am now 63

scorsone
12-05-2008, 05:25 PM
I love the Ural! I have always wanted a side car motorbike. The prices for those new are really respectable. I may have to start saving some pennies to get one of those down the road. I really like the 2wd option for the cool factor more than the usefulness of it, I doubt I would be riding in situations that needed it.

Daman858
12-07-2008, 12:56 PM
There are some nice used ones for sale. Look for a '04 or later. They have electronic ignition and other upgrades. There are several Ural forums like Russian Iron and Soviet Steeds with classified sections. Just do a Google search on Ural motorcycles.

Well, we have hi-jacked this thread enough..back to Element stuff.

hapyface
12-12-2008, 12:34 AM
wow i never knew the element was comparable to a russian spy / military tankers :P

we canadians drive L and R....we have some laws that provides cars over 15 years of age to be exempted from regular vehicle requirements including right hand drives, emissions, CMVSS safety, daytime running lights etc etc.......

my neighbour has a kei-car (Suzuki Cuppachino) imported from japan.... that drives the wrong way and we joke about it!

NV_05_AWD
12-12-2008, 01:43 PM
our free-bear-on-the-street-walking country


dmdoka,

Can you explain this statement?, I notice you have a Panda for your Element club logo, but I don't understand the comparison of the Element to the bear.

Thanks !

dmdoka
12-12-2008, 04:33 PM
It is not so simple to explain, actually.

About bears walking all around in Russia - it's our favorite joke for foreigners. No bears are wandering free in our settlements :roll:

With the bear on our logo - for many people here SSM E looks like a kind of panda (most of us have seen pandas only on the photos) and after a number of associations and transformations the panda of WWF mutated into the friendly panda of Winnie the Pooh in Russian translation.
Like on that image below. (The statement there is a joke - "use contraception with those you love")

I'm not sure that it is possible to explain the whole thing clearly, because it is very difficult to do it even in Russian. It's just a play on associations. Either you do have them or you don't.

NV_05_AWD
12-14-2008, 10:55 AM
o.k. I kinda get the colour part. It does have Panda like "Markings"... I'll take your word for the other part!