235/85/16 Mud Terrians [Archive] - Honda Element Owners Club Forum

: 235/85/16 Mud Terrians

04-25-2003, 10:54 AM
BFGoodrich makes a mud terrian tire that is 235/85/16. Do you guys think they would fit under the element. I have always liked a mud terrian tire and would love to put some under my E.

06-20-2003, 10:31 PM
I recently added Mud Tires to my Element... I did my research and came to the conclusion that the largest sized tire that'd fit (Do to the base of the front shock tower) was a 225/75/16... I went with the Goodyear Wrangler MT/R, the smallest the make in the 16" rim size... BFG makes MT's a 225/75/16 which should work as well... A 235/70/16 may work as well, not sure. I hope this helps...

07-06-2003, 11:29 AM
I too am seeking the tallest possible tires for my Element. My local Goodyear dealer checked on his computer and told me that the Fortera HL P235/70 R16 with a diameter of 28.9 inches is the tallest tire possible. The OEM tire, Wrangler HP P215/70R16, has a diameter of 27.8. The Goodyear guy said that his Goodyear data tell him that anything with a larger diameter than 28.9 would throw the Element's ABS system out of sync and therefore trip a service light on the Element's dashboard. This makes sense to me if the car's computer can't automatically adjust the pulse rate on the ABS to compensate for a taller tire diameter beyond a certain point. Then I noticed that one of our club's recent posters installed on his Element Wrangler MT/R LT225/75 R16's with a diameter of 29.5. My questions are: (a) did his installation of these tires trip his car's service light, and (b) do taller tires actually foul up safe functioning of the ABS? I think they would unless the car's computer is capable of adjust the car's ABS pulse rate. Any professional or armchair automotive engineers out there who can answer my questions? I want the ground clearance.

07-06-2003, 01:52 PM
No service light was ever triggered... No ABS problems of any kind... No ABS brake shimmy or anything related to the braking system... Overall I am 100% happy with the results of going to this type and size of tire. The only thing that might be off a little would be the speedo, but I haven't noticed anything overall...

07-06-2003, 06:53 PM
Thanks, GeepM. Are those Goodrich all-terrain tires very much noisier than the OEMs on the highway? I bet they get great traction on rocky road and snow!

Pimpn E
11-19-2003, 04:53 PM
I don't know if you've figured it out yet, but all terrains are a little noisy but not bad. Mud terrains howl on the highways. They rock in snow but suck somewhat on wet roads and ice due to the lack of rubber to pavement contact. That said, my 71 Bronco ALWAYS has BFG MT's on.

If you're not mudding (which you can't possibly do in an E) MT's are not necessary, go with an AT tire, it will handle all the mud you could possibly get into with the almost zero ground clearance of an E.

Also, go with the BFG's over "GoodforaYears" any day. Cheaper, last longer and have better tread (read "meatier") IMO. They also wear far better I've found.

01-07-2004, 11:32 AM
a good tire size comparison is here:


01-07-2004, 05:28 PM
Good sitel Thank you Hambone.

01-07-2004, 06:39 PM
Question, did the Wrangler MT/R LT225/75 R16's do anything for ground clearance?

01-12-2004, 12:55 AM
yes, at least an inch... haven't done any measurements to figure out the exact amount. I was parked next to some other elements and both of my doors opened up and were about an inch higher off the ground than the other E's... Sometimes the inch makes a big defferance too

01-29-2004, 01:45 PM
Any comments on the Bridgestone Dueler A/T D 693 215/70 - 16?
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03-07-2004, 02:48 AM
I noticed on Tirerack that Perelli makes a Scorpion S/T in the 205/80/16 size. That is a bit over a inch larger diameter than stock, and close to the 235/70 size. These are supposed to work on a RAV which has the same stock size http://rav4world.com/index/tirelist.html. Apparently this size used to be used on Land Rovers. It is a tempting way of gaining some height without width.