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: Stiff 12V accessory outlets?


Drew
04-28-2003, 01:49 PM
I used the 12V sockets for the first time this weekend... I had to work really hard to get the jack into the socket, and even harder to get it back out again without pulling the socket out of the dash! Is this just an odd plug (are there more than one size of lighter adaptor?) or does the E just have tight sockets?

Drew

mandyjeane
04-28-2003, 03:52 PM
I had a hard time getting my husband's cell phone adapter out of the 12V socket, but removing my adapter was fine. Maybe it just depends on what you're plugging in.

jayharley
04-28-2003, 04:27 PM
The first day I got my EX I tried plugging in my cell charger. I was absolutely sure that I would have to buy a different style of charger plug since it simply would not fit. Anyway, I called the local Radio Shack and was told to push really really hard and it will fit. It worked but it is a really tight fit. I am not sure why they designed it this way.

berzerker4
04-28-2003, 04:40 PM
Same thing happened to me in the rear outlet when using a plug-in cooler. I was really getting worried that I was going to either pull the outlet out from the sidewall or that I was going to pull the entire sidewall off. Very scary :shock: Chris

Oak Lawn Element
04-28-2003, 06:45 PM
[quote:4b65bd77b4="Drew"]I used the 12V sockets for the first time this weekend... I had to work really hard to get the jack into the socket, and even harder to get it back out again without pulling the socket out of the dash! Is this just an odd plug (are there more than one size of lighter adaptor?) or does the E just have tight sockets?

Drew[/quote:4b65bd77b4]

Funny you should mention this. On my first use of my little Vector Travel Cooler, the unplugging from the front power outlet resulted in the destruction of the power cord. I pulled it out and the damn thing flew to pieces. ??? I wasn't sure if it was just p-poor quality from Vector or what, but maybe it was a really tight fit on top of poor Vector quality.

medic4lee
04-28-2003, 08:04 PM
Its kind of a cross between the size and how you put it in(wow that sounded wrong) any way if you look in the whole you will see that there are two insets one across from the other, my cell charger has the two metal parts (outsets) that seem to fit perfectly into these two insets making it very hard to get the plug out but i found that if I turn the plug 90 degrees before I put it in then it comes out nice and easy!!! hopefully you all understood what I mean and this will help!!!

Einstein
04-28-2003, 09:00 PM
I used an accessory in the S2000 one time. It was super tight. The plug expanded the socket, now the "cover" flaps around and won't stay in.

I think the dealer is going to hear about this one...

Drew
04-29-2003, 10:35 AM
Ok... so it's not just me then. Yeah, it seems I have to sort of "screw the plug out" to get it out easily. I'm using my rear socket for an 18" orange neon bar mounted on the edge of the skylight, and I have to unplug/replug it regularly (don't want to use it in the daytime). I'm hoping I don't damage the socket with normal use!

Drew

p.s. Jay Harley - you are aware that the 12V outlets don't work when the car is turned off right? Not much use for a cell charger, unless you only want to charge while driving...

Mfpar35
05-02-2003, 03:41 AM
This is one of the only things I have been disapointed with! I remove things often from the jack and its like pulling teeth. I'm sure I'm gonna break the thing one of these days.

Macromonkey
05-02-2003, 03:26 PM
I've been having the same problem with my cell charger, My friend's fit fine when we went on a road trip...but mine still is tight....

The odd thing i was just looking at my charger, and there are these scraches, almost gouges out of the side and front of my charger.

I am wondering if all the problems we are having is a build in thing to keep us from using the sockets for Lighters. If you read the manual it says you can not use the "electric element" style lighters in the 12vlt sockets. So maybe what we are running up against is some small flanges or something to keep us from putting a certain diameter plug in there. Hence why some fit, and some don't.

jayharley
05-03-2003, 07:21 PM
[quote:6fc3e00aee="Drew"]
p.s. Jay Harley - you are aware that the 12V outlets don't work when the car is turned off right? Not much use for a cell charger, unless you only want to charge while driving...[/quote:6fc3e00aee]

Drew: Yes you are correct. However I just leave the charging cord plugged in all of the time and curled up in that little tray underneath. Then when I am using my phone in the car it is easier to plug it in rather than wrestling with the tight fit each time. I am not sure if I am making any sence at all.

Drew
05-05-2003, 01:09 PM
[quote:98463bcaf1="Macromonkey"]I am wondering if all the problems we are having is a build in thing to keep us from using the sockets for Lighters. If you read the manual it says you can not use the "electric element" style lighters in the 12vlt sockets. So maybe what we are running up against is some small flanges or something to keep us from putting a certain diameter plug in there. Hence why some fit, and some don't.[/quote:98463bcaf1]

Well, while that does make some sense, the majority of the 12V accessories out there are designed to go into standard lighter outlets. If they make the jack smaller to keep you from putting a lighter in it, they also prevent you from using most standard accessories.

My adaptor for my MP3 player has a fuse tip in it that unscrews. Almost every time I unplug it I'm nearly ripping the removable tip off of the adaptor. :P

Drew

woody
09-11-2003, 04:01 PM
There must be something they're not telling us about what can and can't be used in the 12V outlets. I camped out on my drive around the country this summer, and put my self-inflating air mattress to good use until that night in northern Minnesota when plastic adaptor fell apart in my hands. I eventually got the combination of good advice at the local Radio Shack in northernmost Vermont and managed to splice a hardier adaptor to the cord of the air mattress. Discovered that my initial attempt - not knowing diddly about which was the positive or negative wire - burned out the fuse to that rear outlet, so I not only learned about wiring DC devices (my childhood was deprived in many ways) but also how to find and replace the many fuses the Element has. Actually my wife had to do it for with bifocals once I got close enough to see the interior fuse box I couldn't for the life of me read the numbers on the different slots.
The various adaptors that I've bought at Radio Shack - one for the iPod, one to produce AC current and the one for the air mattress - have all been sturdy enough that there hasn't been a problem getting them into and out of the sockets.

tapestry
09-11-2003, 04:14 PM
i, too, have had difficulty with the outlet.

rjm161
09-11-2003, 06:27 PM
[quote:a785563102="woody"]Actually my wife had to do it for with bifocals once I got close enough to see the interior fuse box I couldn't for the life of me read the numbers on the different slots. [/quote:a785563102]

Wow, is that proof that you aren't part of Honda's target market, or what? Bifocals?!?!? :lol: j/k

I went to unplug my Uniden radar detector cord and it blew apart. It took me about a half hour with needlenose pliers to shatter the remains and get them out.

Talk about justification to hardwire the detector... :roll:

johnr
09-11-2003, 10:47 PM
I just bought a new adapter for my c-phone and when I went to plug it in it to was very difficult. Removing it was also difficult. I thought at the time 'what a pain in the neck this is - maybe I should just leave it pluged in' but I didn't know if that was a good thing to do. It's stored in my armrest. I'll have to check out the method discussed previously.

klynch13
09-12-2003, 09:27 AM
Never believed in radar detectors. I got most of my speeding tickets with one in the car. Anyway I also had trouble with the socket but I noticed the more you use it the better it gets. I used my cell phone adapter in it. Just a word of caution though. When removing your plug, hold the socket with your hand or you'll end up tearing up your dash.

Cloak
09-12-2003, 06:22 PM
I've seen a suggestion that purchasing one of those Y-adapters that plugs in to the vehicle socket and has two 12v plugs splitting off from it is a good solution to the small hole.

The adapter never needs to be unplugged, and the sockets on the adapter ends are sized more normally.

I don't know if I would plug in two items at once or not, but other than that it seems to be a workable solution. I started considering it after destroying two plugs for a Vector cooler. (I have now discovered that, at least in my E, the rear plug in is 'proper' sized to get the plug in an out normally.)

jimxenus
09-12-2003, 07:38 PM
I picked up one of those Y adapters and they work pretty well. Makes it a lot easier to plug and remove those DC adapters.

rjm161
09-12-2003, 11:37 PM
[quote:ab58ba5a06="klynch13"]Never believed in radar detectors. I got most of my speeing tickets with one in the car. [/quote:ab58ba5a06]

Funny, I call the old one in my del Sol "the $50,000 detector" it has saved me so many times. I think it is all about how good of a unit you get, how familiar you are with the reading and mostly, and mostly dumb luck of some cop shooting the instant-on at the 53 mph Ford Escort in front of you and getting lucky enough to catch the beam before he hits you.

That one is one of the first laser-all-in-one Unidens from February 1992 and it is still alive and well, hard-wired in the del Sol. People always tell me Uniden detectors are crap, but I have had as good of luck with both units I own that I have never bothered to replace them.

If I did, it would be a Valentine One, of course.

klynch13
09-12-2003, 11:55 PM
I've had radar detectors from real good ones like the passport and the escort to crap ones like the cobra and the uniden. None worked. I go with the flow of traffic now and be very aware of my surroundings. I'm always looking ahead. I better stop talking about it now before I get some bad luck.

jimxenus
09-13-2003, 10:46 PM
Whenever I use my GPS system, I have it set so that if I go over 75mph, it will beep and warn me until I slow down. Handy little feature but sometimes it can get a little annoying. Although it did help me today as I was heading out to the HondaSUV meet, it started beeping on the freeway and right when I slowed down, I saw a patrol car. It wasn't the CHP but the sheriff so I breathed a little easier.

Redpunk
09-16-2003, 09:47 AM
A lot of auto parts stores are selling y-adaptors that light up. The come in different colors, I think they are blue, green and red, perfect for the E (the red is even slightly orangy). They are $9.99 at Autozone and Advance Auto Parts. There are other accesories that plug into the adaptor in the same section, neon cord, LEDs, "mood lights" and others.

scottm
03-20-2004, 09:17 PM
Is anyone else experiencing this:

The Accessory Power Plug (lighter plug) on the Dash and in the rear storage area is a surprisingly small diameter - making the typical standard accessroy power plug either an uncomfortably tight fit or no fit at all -

I have had to force the plugs in with an unusall amount of extreme effort to get them in and then it is really a problem to get them out - making me afraind that I will pull the outlet right out of the dash

- This cannot be okay -
Two of three accessories I would like to use are a no fit ! -
and the third fits so tight I am very concerened when removing it - I have to use a careful and VERY forceful unscrewing back and forth motion to get it out or in

Anybody else?? - Hey Honda what gives??

this is using a Belkin iPod power plug and a Motorola cell phone charger plug and another cell phone accessory plug - all made to fit the standard auto cigarette lighter outlet - and they fit in my other 2 cars without any trouble

Is there a new size standard that has gone into effect this last model year?

bluesman77
03-21-2004, 07:31 PM
When I went to plug in my Passport radar detector, I was surprised because it wouldn't go until I used a fair amount of force. For what it's worth, after removing and installing it several times, mine seemed to loosen up. Didn't look to see if the wear-in is in the receptacle or on the plug - but assume it's the former.

Jim in OH

Green-E-Seattle
03-22-2004, 02:33 AM
Hmmm.. I had a new power plug for a new device I got recently. Hadn't tried it elsewhere but it was extremely difficult to get into the socket, and on pulling it out I was afraid I'd break the socket in doing so. I didn't try it in the back. I assumed the power plug was too big and haven't tried it since - I'm curious to know if anyone else has this problem with the '04 E's

cheers

ian

music&dogs
03-22-2004, 07:21 AM
Yes, I had the same experience. I plugged a cell phone holder into that socket and had a difficult time getting it in. Haven't removed it but I assume it would also be a struggle to remove. I wondered about this also.

Macromonkey
03-22-2004, 10:55 PM
I hate to say it, but This is roughly the 4th or 5th time I've responded to this over the past year that I've owned my E.

If you read your Owners Man. it says that the E has 12 volt outlets that are not designed to work with Filament Cig lighters. And the way they keep this from happening is they have added small "fins" in the interior of the outlet keeping the lighters out. and since several 12volt accessories use a "standard" sized plug they are a bit to big to fit in the fins. Because the plugs are tapered they do allow to be inserted (well firmly) but the main problem comes when trying to remove them. I have suggested in the past Outlet adapters. I know JC Whitney and even Target have one that allows you to basically have a splitter that has an on/off switch and 2 or 3 additional "Standard" sized outlets.


If your looking for something I do suggest using the Search function, allowing you to reap the knowledge of past users that might have moved on from this board because of this exact thing Multiple posts about the Exact Same Thing.

brendan
03-23-2004, 12:14 AM
I concur on the "buy a 2-4 socket outlet adapter" advice.

I didn't know about the fins, though. Good catch, Macro. I should thumb through the manual again...perhaps I find the location of the eject button this time!

-brendan

scottm
03-23-2004, 03:48 AM
Macro -

I thank you for answering again -- it is very appreciated -

BTW - I did do a search on this board and on two others prior to posting my question and did not find any info - regarding the accessory power outlet / or accessory plug

I realize it is polite and respectful of the others that post to research questions through the archive first before posting to avoid the repetition-

Again thanks for your post and thanks for the other 4 or 5 previous times you offered help on this subject -- that is why a board like this is so valuable for all of us - because more knowledgable members like yourself take the time to help out others who may not be as resourceful - that is the whole idea right? - share the knowledge.

scottm

BigFoot
03-23-2004, 11:17 AM
Mr. Monkey, it appears your destiny is to be the resident expert on the fins inside the accessory plugs, and to educate new E owners every 6 months. And we all thought a lava pit was Hell!

Of course the problem is how to know all the key words to do an effective search. Is it cigarette lighter? 12v outlet? accessory plug? power outlet? funny socket thingee?

What we do need to know is what size drill bit to get to remove those fins once and for all!

Bill in Houston
03-23-2004, 04:47 PM
[quote:a7e640540c=" "]<snip> And the way they keep this from happening is they have added small "fins" in the interior of the outlet keeping the lighters out. and since several 12volt accessories use a "standard" sized plug they are a bit to big to fit in the fins. Because the plugs are tapered they do allow to be inserted (well firmly). [/quote:a7e640540c]

Yeah, the fins act as little grippers to rip your plug apart, too, leaving you with a perfectly sized piece of plastic jammed in the outlet.

Plugs that are split long-ways should not have this problem (you may want to sand them down), but my air compressor had a plug that was two cylindrical pieces that screw together. It got ripped apart when I tried to pull it out.

Still haven't figured out how to remove the remaining lodged piece. It's bumming me out. Waah. :(

Bill

HappyCamper
03-23-2004, 05:06 PM
[quote:eb5877cbf0=" "][quote:eb5877cbf0=" "]<snip> And the way they keep this from happening is they have added small "fins" in the interior of the outlet keeping the lighters out. and since several 12volt accessories use a "standard" sized plug they are a bit to big to fit in the fins. Because the plugs are tapered they do allow to be inserted (well firmly). [/quote:eb5877cbf0]

Yeah, the fins act as little grippers to rip your plug apart, too, leaving you with a perfectly sized piece of plastic jammed in the outlet.

Plugs that are split long-ways should not have this problem (you may want to sand them down), but my air compressor had a plug that was two cylindrical pieces that screw together. It got ripped apart when I tried to pull it out.

Still haven't figured out how to remove the remaining lodged piece. It's bumming me out. Waah. :(

Bill[/quote:eb5877cbf0]

I had the same problem with the plug on my air compressor. I went to pull it out of the front 12-volt socket and only half of it came out. It was the threaded two-piece type as well.

Bill, here's what I ended up doing, maybe you can do the same. First I tried pushing the plug back in and turning it to screw it back together, of course to no avail. I ended up being able to remove the silver clips from the part in my hand, and then I could re-insert it and turn it to re-attach the piece that was stuck inside. At that point, the whole thing came out easily, and then I put it all back together good as new.

TrailNut
03-23-2004, 05:15 PM
thanks, Macromonkey.

Macromonkey
03-23-2004, 10:12 PM
Awwww thanks.... :)

(had a bad night last night, and your right, the search funtion doesn't always work that well...)

Bill in Houston
03-24-2004, 10:39 AM
[quote:7afc94b081=" "]I had the same problem with the plug on my air compressor. I went to pull it out of the front 12-volt socket and only half of it came out. It was the threaded two-piece type as well.

Bill, here's what I ended up doing, maybe you can do the same. First I tried pushing the plug back in and turning it to screw it back together, of course to no avail. I ended up being able to remove the silver clips from the part in my hand, and then I could re-insert it and turn it to re-attach the piece that was stuck inside. At that point, the whole thing came out easily, and then I put it all back together good as new.[/quote:7afc94b081]

Thank you for the advice. I tried that for a while and failed, but will try it again, now that I know someone was able to make it work.

My next attempt after that will be reaching in with the dremel tool and trying to cut the wedged piece into bits that I can then remove.

Anyone know how to get the outlet out of the dash? Someone said "pry with a screwdriver" but i didn't know exactly where I would be prying.

Bill

Dasbear
03-26-2004, 07:53 AM
:?: I know I'm new to this here forum and still in process of finding the best deal but....
What if one was to walk into a dealer with a plug in for a Ipod and ask the dealer how do you plug a Ipod in. Dealer being almighty plugs in. Well he has to get it out correct? If he can not then maybe he/she may get assistants from that service guy. This may start the ball rolling in the right direction to a service request. :twisted:
Did this make sense or should I go find some rock salt to sit on?

reedpc
03-26-2004, 10:06 AM
I plugged in a RadioShack 1-to-2 lighter splitter, and destroyed it trying to get it out (had to use a pair of needle nose pliers to bust up the fragments to get them out of the socket). So now I've plugged in another 1-to-2 splitter into each outlet, this time with the intent of leaving them in forever.

fanrog
03-28-2004, 12:32 PM
I think the last request I made to my dealer before finalizing my Element order was to prove to me that an iPod power adaptor would fit into the dash power plug (I had read the horror stories in this forum). My dealer's supervisor had an iPod and said he'd buy a car adaptor over the weekend and try it on an Element on the lot Monday himself. He did and blessed the proof of concept. I bought the car. That was in November, 03.

Days later, I bought my daughter an iPod (I can't say enough about the thing!) :D We love it and the INCREDIBLE sound we get out of it. In any case, I accidentally bought the wrong power adaptor (it was made by Monster) because apparently there are now many generations of the iPod and mine required the more recent technology (not the earlier iPod with the FireWire port on top). It wasn't cheap (nothing by Monster is). I returned it (to Comp USA) and bought a Belkin auto kit: dock connector, 3.5 mm audio output to play through the stereo (that part we don't use because we use a $6 radio shack line to the Element AUX), and cord management strap. Part number F8V7058-APL. IT FITS BEAUTIFULLY --- no struggling or feeling like you're going to yank out the whole accessory housing. Good luck! :D

Dasbear
04-04-2004, 12:09 PM
:oops: Well, I went into a dealer and tested a phone plug on a Accord and no problem but the Element did not go. The service manager checked to see if any bulletins were out on it. If every one who has a problem with the plugs notified their dealer, a bulletin would be released to clean up this issue.
Slug

brendan
04-04-2004, 12:16 PM
[quote:c4d90fe9b2=" "]:oops: Well, I went into a dealer and tested a phone plug on a Accord and no problem but the Element did not go. The service manager checked to see if any bulletins were out on it. If every one who has a problem with the plugs notified their dealer, a bulletin would be released to clean up this issue.[/quote:c4d90fe9b2]

There are a couple of really small&cute 1->3 or 1->4 12V socket adapters out there. Might just make sense plugging one of them in permanantly.

-brendan

fanrog
04-04-2004, 10:20 PM
NW: That's my point --- get the Element dealer to check it out before you become the guinea pig for the particular technology.

esswedl
04-05-2004, 02:05 AM
Having read this thread, I was especially careful this past week when choosing a charger for my iPod. I avoided the Monster brand, having read that someone else had trouble with it, and looked for a Belkin charger. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a Belkin charger for my older (no dock connector) iPod, so I bought a charger made by XtremeMac. The packaging said it was made for accessory sockets, and I had no trouble fitting it into my Element's front socket.

fanrog
04-05-2004, 06:09 PM
... and ain't it something when you can pipe it all through that 270 watts 7 speaker system (I'm not an audiophile but it's the best I've ever had)! :D

JeffN
04-05-2004, 06:23 PM
Sorry if this link causes the page to widen. I hate it when that happens.
I've got one of these from radioshack and leave it plugged in always. Fits great into the E socket and all other plugs fit it.

Ok, the link is WAY too big, and makes the page about 3 screens wide.
Go to http://radioshack.com
Type "3-Outlet 12VDC Plug Adapter" into the search box and check out the first one on the list!

biocube
04-05-2004, 07:37 PM
has anyone tried/is using the griffin ipod charger? does it fit ok into the charger 2without a multi-port adaper?

alysenlynn
05-02-2004, 06:32 PM
THis thred was very helpful...although I have to admit that I couldn't find it using the search feature either...I just scrolled through the posts till I found it...if anyone is working on a FAQ for this section this post would be perfect!

Alysen

biocube
05-03-2004, 01:04 AM
I ended up getting a 1->2 splitter at kragen, which is cool because the receptacles have a green led lighted circle around them.

also, i bought a Sik imp (www.sik.com) that charges the ipod, and also has an aux -out port that you can run a cable over to the aux-in of the element. better quality sound using the dock/FW connection that running it out the headphones port.

lucifer
05-04-2004, 01:02 PM
My socket claimed its first adapter yesterday.
Shattered the end of the plug trying to get it out...
:evil:

babyhippie
11-07-2004, 12:56 PM
This is my first complaint about my E. :(

The rear accessory outlet ate the plug on my air compressor. Had to pull out the broken end with needle-nose pliers.

Is there a better solution than leaving a big ugly splitter plugged in all the time? I really don't want to do that, but I need to be able to use the compressor (after I find a way to fix the broken plug, that is).

I don't understand the purpose for the "fins" when so many DC plugs are designed for regular cig lighters.

denru
11-07-2004, 06:18 PM
I solved this problem by spending $10.00 at Auto Barn online and got a 2-device splitter that works great. 8)

babyhippie
11-07-2004, 07:16 PM
I am happy to report that I picked up a $3.99 splitter at Target that has solved my problem. It is easy enough to plug in & remove & the repaired plug on my air compressor fits into it.

beachhearted
08-10-2005, 02:52 PM
Just found this thread after my E's front power adapter ate my brand new air mattress's power cord. (I tried it in the front because when I first tried the air mattress, I barely got the plug back out again.) Now I have broken plastic all in the outlet and I'm scared to dig it out myself. And I have to buy a new air mattress! Argh!!!!!

paulj
08-10-2005, 04:26 PM
Can't you put a replacement plug on the air mattress cord?

paulj

QKMPULSE
08-10-2005, 06:00 PM
Hey,

No Prob. Just get out your trusty Dremel and GRIND away the fins. I've got absolutely no trouble getting plugs in/out of the power socket!

Thx, Phil

beachhearted
08-12-2005, 09:46 AM
Can't you put a replacement plug on the air mattress cord?

paulj
Maybe... I'm not very electrically-savvy, though. And Target has twin-size Eddie Bauer air mattresses that come with a battery-operated pump on sale for $20 this week.

Took my E to the dealer yesterday and they quoted me $90 to repair the front jack since the air mattress plug broke in there. The dealer did not seem aware that people are supposed to use some sort of special adapter in there. They seemed as surprised as I was that you would have to do anything other than plug in your cell phone, plug in your air mattress, or what have you!

I declined the repair. Then the dealer fixed the jack for free since I was having a lot of maintenance done anyway. It was probably their way of making it seem like they were doing me a huge favor. I mean, really, who would pay $90 for that?!

Wilyumm
08-14-2005, 10:11 PM
Here's a picture of a triple outlet I bought at Target. It is attached with the Industrial strength Velcro type fastener which so far is holding it on. It also came with 2 small screws that you can use if the velcro does not hold.

Wilyumm
09-25-2005, 10:56 PM
Here's a picture of a triple outlet I bought at Target. It is attached with the Industrial strength Velcro type fastener which so far is holding it on. It also came with 2 small screws that you can use if the velcro does not hold.
Velcro let go, so I attached it with 2 small screws.

ElementforLife
11-30-2006, 09:29 AM
Does anyone know if the rear power outlet that H and A sells has a tight fit for most plugs like the stock outlet does? I want to just replace the outlet in the front with one without fins.
Thanks,
Patrick

motelE
12-03-2006, 12:33 AM
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE FRONT POWER PLUG. IT WAS A VERY TIGHT FIT. MY PHONE CHARGER WAS A BEAR TO PUT IN OR PULL OUT. I WAS ALWAYS AFRAID SOMETHING WOULD BREAK OFF. WELL IT FINALLY DID, MY CHEAP LITTLE AIR COMPRESSOR FOR MY AIR MATTRESS. THE TIP BROKE OFF & WAS STUCK INSIDE. MY "E" WAS STILL UNDER WARRANTY SO I THOUGHT MY DEALER COULD HANDLE IT. I HAD PURCHASED THE REAR OUTLET FROM H&A AND IT FIT FINE, DEALER INSTALLED FOR $85. I HAVE BEEN TRYING SINCE MAY TO GET MY ORIGINAL DEALER TO REPLACE THE FRONT PLUG. FOR SOME REASON THEY FOUND THIS TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO. NEVER HAD THE PART IN STOCK AND WHEN TOLD THEY WOULD ORDER IT AND CALL ME, THE NEVER DID. EVENTUALLY THEY DID CALL AND I TOOK A DAY OFF WORK SPECIFICALY TO GET IT REPLACED. THEY SPENT TWO HOURS WITH THE REAR HATCH OPEN. SERVICE MANAGER FINALLY HAD TO CONFESS THEY HAD THE WRONG PART, APPARENTLY THE PART NUMBER WAS WRONG IN THEIR COMPUTER. SAID THEY WOULD ORDER THE PART AND "CALL ME". YEAH RIGHT.:mad:
SO THEY JUST LOST A CUSTOMER. WENT TO A HONDA DEALER CLOSER TO WORK, HAD THE NEW FRONT POWER PLUG ORDERED, INSTALLED FOR FREE (STILL UNDER WARRANTY) IN LESS THAN 5 DAYS THE END OF NOVEMBER.
THE H&A REAR PLUG IS TIGHT BUT HASN'T EATEN ANYTHING YET.:-P

bluesman77
03-14-2009, 10:03 AM
I purchased my '04 new and have had difficulty inserting and removing the power cord jack to my radar detector since day one. There have been times it felt like I was going to rip out the socket trying to remove the jack. Recently we purchased a GPS, wanted to be able to run it at the same time as the radar detector and purchased a dual cigarette lighter off eBay to accomplish that. When the splitter arrived, the quality was much better than I expected for $8 (including shipping). But the best part is I can now insert or remove the radar dectector and GPS jacks with what I feel is a normal amount of effort.

I have no affiliation whatsoever with this seller, but here is the outlet I purchased:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Charger-Dual-Cigarette-Lighter-UNIVERSAL-Splitter_W0QQitemZ360132512663QQcmdZViewItemQQptZB luetooth_Wireless_Products?hash=item360132512663&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Or, just search dual cigarette lighter splitter.

All of the products I looked at in Wal-Mart, K-Mart and Radio Shack were either tilted at an angle or used cords running from the car jack to the split outlets. Whereas, the item I purchsed has one outlet concentric with the origal outlet and another next to it. The thing even has an LED to show whenit's powerd. Hope this helps those of you who have experienced a similar problem.

boxedup1
03-14-2009, 09:14 PM
i had the same problem. i broke two adapters on my portable air compressers. any way bought the double socket and no problems now.