My Element was selected by JL Audio (www.jlaudio.com) to make the molds for their stealthbox sub-woofer system. We looked at the spare tire well (not enough room), the center console (one option) and the present sub-woofer area (another option). The latter seemed reasonable. Will post more information when I see the first test results tomorrow. 8)

Sounds Good. Too late for me. But it'll help alot of other people. I had a box made for the console. Can't woth to see pics of it. See what the "PROS" came up with.

Please post any info as it becomes available. I made my own custom semi-recessed cabinet where the EX subwoofer goes for my DX. I utilized an 8" Kicker solo-baric sub hooked up to a 600w x 1 amp. What size will the sub speaker be? Dual voice coil? If it's done right, I'll definately buy it. I think JL could do a more professional job then my first attempt ever at custom cabinet building.

Can't wait for more info on this, I'm pretty much waiting on this so I can get a sub in my DX. It would be cool if they had an amplifier option available as well.

I received pics of the first mold taken. Can anyone tell me how to post photos?

[quote:0752bbf02f="chetster"]I received pics of the first mold taken. Can anyone tell me how to post photos?[/quote:0752bbf02f]

You'll need to host them on the internet first, then link to pic here.

If you'd like I can host the pics for you, I have a little web space left from my ISP. Email me at x2e@rogers.com with your pics and I'll post them here.

email them to me @ naturalvx@yahoo.com

I can post them on my webspace, I really am looking forward to these.

[quote:4ad121576f="chetster"]I received pics of the first mold taken. Can anyone tell me how to post photos?[/quote:4ad121576f]

Hi Chet,

I don't know if you remember but I was the guy who hooked you up with JL Audio. I'd be glad to host the photos. Just e-mail them to me - you already have my address. :D

Finally got first round of pics for JL Stealthbox for Element. Second set of molds will happen next week. Will post when done.

http://photos.yahoo.com/keywestr

This is EXACTLY what I have in mind for my E. 1 10 in the center console, put the amp in the spare tire well and go from there. Molds look good, I imagine the second one will be more formed to the shape and then they will make a plaster cast. Did they give you any estimated production date? I would love to be one of the first to pre-purchase this.

I have made MANY custom fiberglass enclosures already and I have NO idea what they are doing. How many of what size is going in there. I personally think a 10 would be way too bg for that spot. Js boxes are for near stock looks and a 10 would not look close to stock. I am currently making a fiberglass enclosure for mine that will hold 2 12's. I would have already finished it but Im making an enclsure for my Civic that will hold a Boston Acoustic 15". Ill get some pics when Im finished.

[quote:f5d6a29ab8="Turtle"]I have made MANY custom fiberglass enclosures already and I have NO idea what they are doing. How many of what size is going in there. I personally think a 10 would be way too bg for that spot. Js boxes are for near stock looks and a 10 would not look close to stock. I am currently making a fiberglass enclosure for mine that will hold 2 12's. I would have already finished it but Im making an enclsure for my Civic that will hold a Boston Acoustic 15". Ill get some pics when Im finished.[/quote:f5d6a29ab8]

All I have to say is this - when have you ever known JL audio to do anything in a half-assed fashion? :?

IMHO a sub up front would be great and will provide a much better soundstage as compared with putting subs in the back.

I agree with you on the staging part. I will keep my sub in the front, but it will be an 8" in its own custom enclosure. The 2 in back are just for a low more uummmffff. I will be entering my E in many car shows, so this is a key part in it anyways.
I also agree with you on the JL quality of work. They build great stuff, its just that a 10 will not look right i the front.It would be too big and obvious, which is what the "Stealth" series boxes are designed NOT to be. An 8" would be perfect there. Anything smaller and your options are out the window. Hardly anyone make a REAL 6.5" sub style woofer.

This is just a guess based on the photos, but it looks like the sub will be mounted on the bottom and be downward firing. That may explain why the flat area of the mold is a couple of inches above the floor. This would make the most sense because largest part of the enclosure would be at the bottom and would taper upward to meet the shifter area. This would allow for a larger sub without excessive intrusion into the footwells.

I just read on another site that the stealth box made for the CRV fits the Element - i checked out the pics it looks good - fits in the spare tire well.

Does anyone know anything aobut whether it actually does fit and how good a fit it is?

O-IN

any update on this yet?

No kidding, how long does it take em' to build an enclosure? I'm really interested to see what they come up with, but I'm concerned about the power it'll take to drive it without adding a whole bunch of equipment. There's not much room in the E to add all the components I'd like to, without cluttering up the usable storage area. Hmmm.

[quote:43ef7ed88f="4rachnid"]No kidding, how long does it take em' to build an enclosure? I'm really interested to see what they come up with, but I'm concerned about the power it'll take to drive it without adding a whole bunch of equipment. There's not much room in the E to add all the components I'd like to, without cluttering up the usable storage area. Hmmm.[/quote:43ef7ed88f]
Any kind item that will be mass produced takes time to create because of the enormous number of things that need to take place like:

modeling for exact tolerances
machine tooling
3d cad/cam work modeling
negotiating pricing and quantities of supplies from vendors
desiging packaging materials
creating marketing information
creating user manuals
determining pricing structures and profit margins
testing and quality assurance

Besides, it's possible that JL could have the enclosure mostly done but we just don't know because Chet simply has not seen it or taken pictures of it or maybe just does not have time to post them. The point is we just don't know.

Also, with regard to your concerns for having to use a lot of cargo space in order to install car audio/video components:

Take a look at the systems posted on this forum, most have creatively added lots of components without taking up any cargo space.

My own system is completely hidden with the exception of the subwoofer which resides in the rear cargo area but is instantly removable in case I need to haul some cargo.

Don't worry about hiding an amp to power the sub - there's plenty of spots to hide them. :D

Just an update...
JL expects to take my car again for sound tests...
I have no updated photos as of yet. Soon as I
get more info I will pass it on. I am getting
"antsy" myself.

No pics in here :evil:

rename the post please...

how

The photos are here...

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/keywestr/lst?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/

I just received this reply from JLaudio on the progress of the element stealthbox. I thought this might be of some interest.


Good afternoon Jordan,

We are currently working on a new Stealthbox design to fit the Element. Since we haven't finished the design yet, it's too early to tell if and when it would be approved, cost of the finished part, or a delivery date. However I'm hoping it will be available within the next 45-60 days and that cost will be in line with other Stealthbox models (about $500.00 retail). The design we're working on replaces the OEM Subwoofer enclosure with a new fiberglass model that houses a single downfiring 10W3V2 in a sealed enclosure. We're expecting some impressive performance out of this enclosure! Good luck with your Element project, and thanks for your interest in Stealthbox!

Sincerely,

Don Vertrees

Any new info as to the debut of E Stealthbox, I need bass!! and this would be the best solution.

Progress report?

Expected date of delivery?

Latest pics?

c'mon, throw a bone.

About time for another bump for a progress report. Come on people throw me a friggin bone .... :)

The only mod I want to do to my E and I no info yet?

Current status on delivery date?
Any information would be appreciated as you have many potential customers here.

It seems our friend Chetster has dropped off the face of the earth. It may be best to contact JL audio directly.

ok, ive been watching these boards since april when i got my E. i havent posted yet so i thought now would be a good time. i took the liberty of contacting JL earlier this week. this is the response i got.

Good morning TJ,
The Element Stealthbox prototype is completed and is waiting for performance tests. We anticipate completion of this model very soon, although timing depends a lot on scheduling of performance tests and photo shots, etc. I'd expect availability within the next 30 days.
Sincerely,
Don Vertrees


hope this helps easy your worries on the stealthbox. i myself cant wait. i already have a JL 10w7 ready to go in the back, but i want to install them both at the same time, so i know how it feels. I already wired it with a JL 500/1 (thanks to emass instructions). a 250/1 is going in for the stealthbox when it comes out. anyway i hope the update helps....

-tj

PS- emass, are you from MA, or is that just a clever name? if so im from worcester.

[quote:3506a90ba4="teeja2000"]PS- emass, are you from MA, or is that just a clever name? if so im from worcester.[/quote:3506a90ba4]

It's a small world - I live in Sterling! :D

Don Vertees is the right man over at JL - he is the man I spoke to on this project in the first place so he should know what's going on.

Thanks for the update TJ! :D

BTW, I love Wormtown! Ever hang out at Ralph's? Best burger and beer in New England IMHO + the people watching and the live music - love it.

So possible availibility in about 30 days, i hope this holds true. "I need bass I tell ya" and the stealthbox is the only way I want to do it. As soon as it hits the market its mine.

It's a small world - I live in Sterling!

haha, i actually live in holden, but i didnt expect anyone who ever would have heard of holden. you prolly live less than 10 mins away. hopefully if this stealthbox ever comes in, you will be able to hear me from your house... :)

Heres what i got when I emailed JL about the Stealth box Wow a 10" woofer in that location. I can't wait.

Good morning Shane,
Yes, we're working on a Stealthbox model for the Element! It will be located in the location under the shifter as the OEM model. However our's will house a single 10W3V2 in a downfiring sealed enclosure. Our prototype is complete and we're waiting on performance testing at the moment. So availability should be within 30 days or so. Good luck with your Element, and thanks for your interest in Stealthbox!
Sincerely,
Don Vertrees

Just keeping this post current to keep JL moving along on the "E" project.

What the latest status and time estimates of a finished product to the wholesalers/retailer channels?


Just another arm chair consumer project manager waiting for his sub

Bump^^^

I though this was going to be done months ago :(