I'd like to hear some others experiences with performance mods on the Element. I've decided to install a Borla XS Turbo muffler to replace the stock muffler and resonator. Up on the lift, the Element uses a muffler plus a seperate resonator. My mechanic suggested I keep the Catalytic converter intact (because of oxygen sensors and onboard computer). The header unit of the stock Element is actually pretty large. For now, I'm going to cut the exhaust system right after the catalytic converter. I'm going to install 2.5" pipe from that point back for increased breathing. The Borla muffler will go where the stock muffler went. I will also utilize an exhaust tip for the new 2.5" pipe. This upgrade will improve breathing and cut some weight.I want to keep my upgrades discrete and didn't want the typical pocket racer coffee can muffler installed right below the rear bumper of my Element. Interestingly, The new Acura RSX and TSX both utilize the same 2.4 liter honda engine, but tweak the 2.4 to 200 H.P. . My goal is to upgrade the Element's 2.4 liter engine without turbo or super charger. I want to get 250,000 miles out of this engine. I'm thinking the RSX and TSX parts & tuning may offer the Element "Honda Off-the-shelf engine performance upgrades". To be continued.....

Hi,

This is David Borla of Borla Exhaust. We manufacture high performance, T304 stainless steel, aftermarket exhaust systems with a million mile, no-hassle warranty. I noticed that some of you are unhappy with the durability of your stock exhaust system and I was wondering if there is a demand for a better performing and more durable aftermarket exhaust for the Element. Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks

I would defenitly be inersted in a perfomance exhaust system.

Things that are important are performance increase, milelege increase without a loud drone. A nice throaty system would be great.

I would be interested in an exhaust system from Borla. If you can keep it around the $500 range or lower for a cat-back system I would purchase one.

YES....i would be very interested. Just don't make it too loud! =)
and if you need a tester count me in!

Yes PLEASE! I am very interested. Please make note of the diff between the auto and manual RPM wise etc. I am in So Cal but would offer my element up for testing if needed!

Count me in, was considering a custom cat back setup but if borla makes one then I will buy!

I would certainly purchase a borla catback system

Id buy one...

Welcome to the site David. Please let me introduce myself as the original poster for this thread.

My original reasons for the exhaust upgrade was strictly performance. Honda exhausts are very reliable, but designed for economy.

My goal was to improve performance. The Honda configuration was quite heavy (muffler plus resonator = 65-70 lbs).

I didn't want to compromise on Honda quality and reliability for the sake of performance. With the Borla reputation for quality (1,000,000 mile guarantee) and performance, Borla was definately at the top of my list.

Ended up with 2.5" pipe back from the catalytic converter directly to the Borla Turbo XS muffler and tip. With this configuration, the interior cabin sound levels can sometimes become uncomfortable after a few hours.

This leads me to a question. Does Borla offer a performance resonator?
Would a resonator reduce interior cabin noise while adding back-in some back pressure?

Thank you in advance for your response.

I have my cheackbook in hand and I'm ready now.

[quote:2acc29b855=" "]Hi,

This is David Borla of Borla Exhaust. We manufacture high performance, T304 stainless steel, aftermarket exhaust systems with a million mile, no-hassle warranty. I noticed that some of you are unhappy with the durability of your stock exhaust system and I was wondering if there is a demand for a better performing and more durable aftermarket exhaust for the Element. Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks[/quote:2acc29b855]

Any relation to Alex?

So David, is this going to happen?

What kind of time frame should we expect

[quote:00a6185240=" "]Hi,

This is David Borla of Borla Exhaust. We manufacture high performance, T304 stainless steel, aftermarket exhaust systems with a million mile, no-hassle warranty. I noticed that some of you are unhappy with the durability of your stock exhaust system and I was wondering if there is a demand for a better performing and more durable aftermarket exhaust for the Element. Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks[/quote:00a6185240]

Oh yes, like others have said we Element owners are looking for some performance gains, better gas mileage, weight reduction, nice deep sound without a lot of cabin noise and not sounding like a rice rocket. Build it and we will buy it Mr Borla.

David:

Let me know when it's redy and I'll drive in and have it installed.

paulcburton@comcast.net

David,

A borla exhaust for the Element would be excellent! I had a Borla on my 1997 F-150 and absolutely loved it! The sound and quality was a amazing! I had no problems with it and the installation was very easy. Please consider doing this! I certainly would love to put a Borla on my Element!

Thanks!

Hi Everyone;
Has anyone tried the AERO TURBINE exhaust on their E. After seeing them advertised on 2 guys garage I was wondering what people thought about them? and if they knew anybody with one installed on their car or truck?
Thanks for any input.

[quote:1a66003554=" "]Hi Everyone;
Has anyone tried the AERO TURBINE exhaust on their E. After seeing them advertised on 2 guys garage I was wondering what people thought about them? and if they knew anybody with one installed on their car or truck?
Thanks for any input.[/quote:1a66003554]

They don't make or sell an exhaust. They make/sell a muffler. No point in installing a "high performance" muffler on a crappy stock exhaust. Replace everything, then if you want to play around with different mufflers that's another story.

They don't make or sell an exhaust. They make/sell a muffler. No point in installing a "high performance" muffler on a crappy stock exhaust. Replace everything, then if you want to play around with different mufflers that's another story.

Yes I know that they do not make exhaust systems. But at this time neither do anybody else for the Element. Most people are switching from the converter back when they add their different muffer setups anyway. Which was the reason for the question in the first place. I was just wondering if anybody had used them and what they thought about them, and if anyone has planned on using one on their E.

:lol: :D

YES YES YES

Now make it please....

Welcome to the site David. Please let me introduce myself as the original poster for this thread.

My original reasons for the exhaust upgrade was strictly performance. Honda exhausts are very reliable, but designed for economy.

My goal was to improve performance. The Honda configuration was quite heavy (muffler plus resonator = 65-70 lbs).

I didn't want to compromise on Honda quality and reliability for the sake of performance. With the Borla reputation for quality (1,000,000 mile guarantee) and performance, Borla was definately at the top of my list.

Ended up with 2.5" pipe back from the catalytic converter directly to the Borla Turbo XS muffler and tip. With this configuration, the interior cabin sound levels can sometimes become uncomfortable after a few hours.

This leads me to a question. Does Borla offer a performance resonator?
Would a resonator reduce interior cabin noise while adding back-in some back pressure?

Thank you in advance for your response.

Sounds just like I would like to do to my rig. :)

Is the exhaust come out before or after (like stock) the rear wheel?

Second do you notice any differance in acceleration?

Third, is sound loud only on accelleration or other engine load or just cruising at 65?

And have you added a modified intake a k & N Typhoon Intake Air System?

Moto writes:

Is the exhaust come out before or after (like stock) the rear wheel?
The exhaust system follows the exact footprint of the stock exhaust layout(muffler is exactly where stock unit was, exhaust tip sits where stock pipe would sit)tip

Second do you notice any differance in acceleration?
Yes!
Between 2500-4500 RPM

Third, is sound loud only on accelleration or other engine load or just cruising at 65?
The sound is worse under acceleration but just cruising at 65-80mph at 3100 RPM, the increased sound in the cabin can become annoying. It's been called the "modified muffler drone" many folks with different types of vehicles have reported the same complaint.

And have you added a modified intake a k & N Typhoon Intake Air System?
No, but I'm going to soon replace my stock air filter with the K&N.
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[quote:191475e78f=" "]Moto writes:

Is the exhaust come out before or after (like stock) the rear wheel?
The exhaust system follows the exact footprint of the stock exhaust layout(muffler is exactly where stock unit was, exhaust tip sits where stock pipe would sit)tip

Second do you notice any differance in acceleration?
Yes!
Between 2500-4500 RPM

Third, is sound loud only on accelleration or other engine load or just cruising at 65?
The sound is worse under acceleration but just cruising at 65-80mph at 3100 RPM, the increased sound in the cabin can become annoying. It's been called the "modified muffler drone" many folks with different types of vehicles have reported the same complaint.

And have you added a modified intake a k & N Typhoon Intake Air System?
No, but I'm going to soon replace my stock air filter with the K&N.
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From my limited experience with exhaust systems, if you mount the muffler pre-axle, add a resonator. As the cabin noise would be too loud. If mounted after the axle, you may go without a resonator. All depending on which muffler you choose of course.

Please let me know all the details about the exhaust....I am very interested in buying one.Thanks guys..Dave :shock:

Congrats on the installation! Any idea if this mod would void the warranty? Please post pix if you can :D

KVN

Anyone have any idea when the borla/injen exhausts will hit the market? I'm getting antsy

Since we are on the performance exhaust subject, I'd like to know if I added a diff exhaust (which I have, catback-type) would also adding changes to the intake (K & N or Injen) improve it MORE? By that I mean, as it stands now, someone told me that I am exhausting more air out than I am bringing in with the (stock) system. Can this be true? And if it is true, will changing the intake to (whatever) improve anything (like gas mileage) ? Any thoughts, you exhaust pros?

Ger

I had a Borla SST header and Cat-back on my old 99 Jeep Wrangler, which I traded in on my 04 Element. I was extremely happy with the performace upgrades!!! My vote is... make the header and the exhaust.... the need is there.

I thought these things were coming in April. Where are they?

Definitely would get one, as long as my Dad would be on-board. He's got the funds :lol: Is this really going to happen?

RIght now anyway.... Otherwise the E is stock. I am waiting to make the mods after the Warranty is out.Somebody wrote in about the modified exhaust letting out more air than it takes in....Let's see, wouldn't that just make the engine quit? How can this be?

I love the idea of a cat back system but unless is dramatically increases HP without losing MPG I ain't interested.

I figure Honda will get their SPORT E-dition out soon enough until then....I am still looking for the right combo. Great car isn't it? I haul lots of Photo gear out of town and get around 25 mpg on the highway cruising at around 75 fully loaded. That is really lots better than my old Montero ever got at that speed. With the K&N it sounds better too. A little. I shortened up the intake pipe but because of the openings to the engine compartment behind the front wheels, I am not going with the CAI type intake on this little truck. Too bad too I think it would be great. In the midwest there is just too much stuff flying around in there to risk clogging the CAI up.

It's a fun drive!
:)

Michael

any word from ANY companies on a release date? I'm just hoping they haven't given up on the idea

[quote:a0d20975c5=" "]I love the idea of a cat back system but unless is dramatically increases HP without losing MPG I ain't interested. [/quote:a0d20975c5] Its not going to be dramatic be any means, and there are one way valves taht can be installed into a cai to prevent hydro lock which isnt going to happen unless you stick the whole pipe under water.

in the next few weeks i will be doing a similar mod to empire: http://hondaelement.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4844

today i ordered a single in, dual out, stainless steel magnaflow muffler part #14220 ($85 delivered) and tomorrow two ractive t815b black chrome oval tips ($83 delivered) and btw the photos of the tips from the mfg are misleading - they are not that black but rather more chrome in real life. install cost should be about $100 at a local muffler shop that specializes in custom installs plus the cost of hangers and piping.

i will probably try it from the muffler back first, leaving the stock resonator to avoid cabin noise, but i may ditch the resonator too. it just depends on the final sound i end up with. i will also gain two very attractive dual exhuasts tips under the rear bumper and the total cost for my custom system will be less than a set of dealer installed fog lights or side steps! whether i also gain performance from switching out the muffler and gaining the dual outlets is not critical to me, but if i do, it will be a welcome bonus. i want the cosmetic upgrade from a wimpy single tail pipe to the handsome dual tips!

I would be REALLY interested !!!! Im waiting to finally see a great company to do a nice exhaust system for the E ! :evil:

Huury up before Magnaflow, Greddy or DC sports hits the market loll

HHmmm maybe the Borla post was a scam and maybe it was somebody pulling some of our chains....Sure sounds like it..Think about it what bigwig company dude would be smart enough to actually do that...Just IMO...cool..

Has anybody heard from Mr. Borla since his last post?

Well I suppose we could start flooding him with private messages.

He might respond then :D :D

If you go here http://www.borla.com you can indicate interest in specific models. If enough interest in generated they may make a business decision to manufacturer a model for the Element.

Borla doesn't do imports. Post was a joke. Better off looking towards Mugen or CompTech or DC.

Except that Borla's catalog list most every manufacturer including Honda. Borla exhaust for Hondas is limited to the Accord and S2000.

Borla has been making exhausts for BMW's for at least 10years.

Shame Supersprint or B&B dont make an exhaust for the Element.

Then I stand corrected but all I saw oin their website were American cars. Gues I didn't look hard enough. I think if you guys are that interested in improved performance then you all ought to go to www.comptechusa.com and petition these guys to work up som parts for the E. They are already doing the TSX and pretty much every other Honda or Acura. I'd go with them before any other manufacturer. It would be schweet if they can spec out an Element with a supercharger kit then add the header and exhaust.