Guys i'm about to $buck up in the next few days for the Stealth box, and ditch my home made speaker cabinet and 8" sub. A guy near me who sold me the solobaric sub says his cost for the Stealth is about $479 with shipping. He will install it for free. My amp and all wiring is already in place. Does that $ sound about right?


Peace

yes that sounds about right.

Hey what are you going to do with your other setup. I know you've said before that you don't like it and it's ugly etc, but I might be interested in it if you'd be willing to send a pic ;)

just a thought.

I'll send a pic. Give me a few days. I'll let my sub go for only $300.
Great deal!



J/K. let me get the JL first. If everything goes as planned. You pay shipping and my old set-up is yours.

P.S. Cabinet could use resealing of the seams. Sub kicks ass with CD MP3. Radio is Ok.

I mix-matched my whole system for the price of a JL *cough ripoff* stealthbox!

I mix-matched my whole system for the price of a JL *cough ripoff* stealthbox!

It must sound kick a$$ then. I couldnt Imagine putting a system together for less than 5 bills with good quality sound. What did you mix and match? How does it sound? How does it look?

I'll send a pic. Give me a few days. I'll let my sub go for only $300.
Great deal!

J/K. let me get the JL first. If everything goes as planned. You pay shipping and my old set-up is yours.

P.S. Cabinet could use resealing of the seams. Sub kicks ass with CD MP3. Radio is Ok.

sweet, let me know when something happens

Hajidub writes:
I mix-matched my whole system for the price of a JL *cough ripoff* stealthbox!

Not everyone can afford to buy the JL Stealthbox. JL has very good quality and is used on many high end show cars.

Best of luck with your mis-matched system

Cough

JL is overpriced gear, basically you're paying for a name, although it is nice that they make an enclosure that you can drop right in, not the prettiest thing in the world but for those less inclined to build something themselves, it's ok.

It must sound kick a$$ then. I couldnt Imagine putting a system together for less than 5 bills with good quality sound. What did you mix and match? How does it sound? How does it look?

4 6.5" Infinitys for the doors = $100
1 MRV-F450 Alpine 5 chnl amp = $250
1 12" Polk Audio MM2124 = $60
1 AudioOutletExplosion slotted box = $52

Everything brand new and priced with shipping. I went through 4 different boxes to find one that sounded clean, which is common with the E's interior air space. This box I have is the most amazing thing I've ever heard, tight throughout the spectrum. Oh I forgot to add the 2 ga. Stinger amp kit and David Navone LOC which both came out to another $80 bucks.

My original post wasn't meant to be a diss to Nat, I was merely saying for the price I believe the Stealthbox is a ripoff. All my items listed above were found over the course of 2 weeks on www.vwvortex.com. Anyone in the Colorado Springs area can feel free to IM me for a listen anytime.

JL is overpriced gear, basically you're paying for a name, although it is nice that they make an enclosure that you can drop right in, not the prettiest thing in the world but for those less inclined to build something themselves, it's ok.



JL makes very good speakers. Market forces allow them to get a premium for their speakers. If I could find something less expensive that did the same exact thing in the same exact thing as the JL, I'd buy it but it doesn't exist. JL speakers are very good but the Stealth Box is unique (unless someone knows of another manufacturer of a stealth box?).

Like I said before, not everyone can afford JL. I don't look down on someone because they can't afford the Stealth Box. But obviously, some feel free to take their shots at the JL stealthbox such as haji did. When one infers the JL is a ripoff, they also infer those who buy it are foolish. Lets make a deal, I won't make fun of anyone who can't afford the stealth box. If they choose to say it's a rip-off and thus insult the JL consumers choice, I'll return the favor.

JL is overpriced gear, basically you're paying for a name, although it is nice that they make an enclosure that you can drop right in, not the prettiest thing in the world but for those less inclined to build something themselves, it's ok.



JL makes very good speakers. Market forces allow them to get a premium for their speakers. If I could find something less expensive that did the same exact thing in the same exact thing as the JL, I'd buy it but it doesn't exist. JL speakers are very good but the Stealth Box is unique (unless someone knows of another manufacturer of a stealth box?).

Like I said before, not everyone can afford JL. I don't look down on someone because they can't afford the Stealth Box. But obviously, some feel free to take their shots at the JL stealthbox such as haji did. When one infers the JL is a ripoff, they also infer those who buy it are foolish. Lets make a deal, I won't make fun of anyone who can't afford the stealth box. If they choose to say it's a rip-off and thus insult the JL consumers choice, I'll return the favor.

This is the most retarded response I've ever read. Anyone who choses the JL isn't an idiot, nobody stated that! They might like the space saving features of the Stealthbox, but by space saving you also compromise loudness (not sound quality, loudness). $479 bucks for a woofer/box setup for an average quality (i.e. JL, Rockford, MTX) woofer is a RIPOFF. By stating in my opinion its a RIPOFF in no way assumes (which I'm sure you did) that the purchaser of this item is an idiot. Stop being a prick and taking peoples responses out of context. Spend your $479 and enjoy your purchase, it makes no difference to anybody on here!

Gentlemen:

Calm down. So much venom over car stereo purchases! You would think we were talking about the sizes of your penes. But then again, maybe we are. ;-) :roll:

Some people like JL. Others don't. If there was one way to truth and happiness in car audio, we'd all own Bose. :grin:

Discussions are good. Sarcastic remarks and absolutest statements are not the way to keep them going. They stifle conversation rather than encourage it.

Next time you want to post an angry reply, I'd recommend taking a long walk first.

Not mad, just tired. My apologies to all I offended with my post earlier!

Everyone has a right to spend their money as they wish. Im happy, sounds great, looks good and it all has a warranty from the hardware to the installation. Peace of mind is worth every penny.

I remember asking one question regarding the accuracy of the m.s.r.p. I was provided by the dealer. I didn't ask anyone's opinion about the price.
Maybe some of you misread my first post. My post asked for something very specific. I didn't ask for Haji's opinion on the stealth box cost, just what was the msrp. Since he freely offered his thought about what a rip-off the stealth is, I returned the favor of a negative judgement.

Doesn't feel too good does it haji. Based upon your response, sounds like you had quite an emotional reaction!

The best part of all of this is I'm getting my Stealth Box for $300 because i'm doing some security consulting for the store.

Next time I want your opinion haji, I'll ask for it. Just try to understand the question next time tough guy.

Haji paid this for his bass!

1 MRV-F450 Alpine 5 chnl amp = $250
1 12" Polk Audio MM2124 = $60
1 AudioOutletExplosion slotted box = $52


=$362

My Stealth box + my $50 E bay = $350

Looks like you paid more for bass Haji!

LOL

Should read:

My Stealth box + my $50 Pyramid amp off of E bay = $350

Ok. I feel the need to chime in here.

JL is NOT overpriced. It generally outperforms everything in it's class. Period. They aren't jacklegs. Any sub that can do what mine do is well worth the price. I don't want to see anyone saying that JL is not worth the cash. There are lots of other companies out there that make BS equipment. JL is not one of those companies. If they were, they wouldnt be in my car. Period.

Outpost Outpost Outpost...didja have to mention Bose? Now, talking about overpriced BS - there she is. I do not mean to offend anyone, nor make anyone mad. Bose sucks. Their car stuff is marginally better than their home equipment, but they really are based solely on marketing. I hate nothing more than a customer who comes into my shop and asks me "Isnt Bose the best?" THAT is garbage. For $3500, I can build you a system that will handily outstrip ANY Bose system in all aspects of performance. Period. Bose is a waste of cash. Why do you think Circuit City sells it? In a blind listening test, absolutely no customer I ever had at CC EVER picked Bose over a decent setup from Harman/Kardon and INfinity or Onkyo/Polk. NONE.

Back the the JL thing...so let me get this right. You think that JL is overpriced? So, what does that mean for a company like McIntosh? It is certainly expensive. It also blows everything else COMPLETELY out of the water. Lower noise floors, interference cancellation, and wads of power. Not to mention it looks cool! :grin:

Don't rag on stuff unless you can give personal experiences why you think that product is bad. JL rocks. There are lots of other companies out there that rock also. Get over it.

You dont WANT to know how much I paid for my bass...:grin:

Whaaa? Isn't Bose the best? :confused:






;-) :razz:

If you like your movies to sound like youre watching them from under water. Or if you like your "subwoofer" to "accurately" play all frequencies from 20hz (yeah, right!) to 350hz (ouch - subs are technically only supposed to play to about 120hz...).

Bose = Bad Overpriced Stupid Equipment.

Sorry Amar.

Haji paid this for his bass!

1 MRV-F450 Alpine 5 chnl amp = $250
1 12" Polk Audio MM2124 = $60
1 AudioOutletExplosion slotted box = $52


=$362

My Stealth box + my $50 E bay = $350

Looks like you paid more for bass Haji!

LOL

Are you serious?!? You compare a JL Wealthbox to 850W Alpine amp and a Top of the line Polk woofer?
-JL Wealthbox = 350
-Haji's system= 362
-Haji pulling along side with his window down priceless!

Haji writes:
Are you serious?!? You compare a JL Wealthbox to 850W Alpine amp and a Top of the line Polk woofer?
-JL Wealthbox = 350
-Haji's system= 362
-Haji pulling along side with his window down priceless!


Yes perfectly serious. I have the Polk 12" sub as one of my subs for my HT set-up. My HT set-up includes Klipsch all around plus my Polk and a BIC 12" powered sub driven by a Denon 3802 receiver. While it isn't super high end, it's good enough to know what quality sounds like. Polk is a good brand and sounds good. But to say how superior Polk is to JL is your personal opinion and not consistant with my experience. Both brands are excellent.The difference is the JL also includes the custom box-in console, so as not to take away any utility from the E with a sub box in the back.

Haji: What about the tweeters up high?

Disconnected the tweets up high, since the 4 6.5" infinitys in the doors are co-ax. If your going for a clean, limited volume, space-saver then I will agree the JL choice is a good one.

Come on, guys. Play nice. Discuss the equipment, not each other. These little snipes at the other guy don't make either of you look good.

I don't want to have to tell your mothers... :roll:

C'mon Outpost,
Haji and i were playing nice before you said anything. Don't you know what happens when you attempt to break up a fight between two strangers. We seem to be doing fine without a referee. Whadda ya think haji?


P.S.
I have the Infinity 505's up front. That is the tweeter with the mids in the front door and crossovers behind my glove box. IMO, it's easier to get base then good clean highs in a car. The base is non-directional but the highs aren't. IMO, mids and hi's locations would work better in a vehicle just like it does for HT. In HT, the speakers are aimed at your head level when sitting down. IMO, the tweets sounds awesome up high and it was a positive move from Honda.

Play Beer!

In that case...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/940070/boese053.gif Flame on, Johnny Torch! http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/940070/boese053.gif

Can anyone that went to the so cal meet today post their opinion on how my system sounded with the stealth box?

IMO Money well spent.

Back the the JL thing...so let me get this right. You think that JL is overpriced? So, what does that mean for a company like McIntosh? It is certainly expensive. It also blows everything else COMPLETELY out of the water. Lower noise floors, interference cancellation, and wads of power. Not to mention it looks cool! :grin:

Don't rag on stuff unless you can give personal experiences why you think that product is bad. JL rocks. There are lots of other companies out there that rock also. Get over it.


I'm not going to get into this argument. Everyone on the internet is an expert we all know this, and the ones who argue and show off usually know the least. If you really think JL is the best bargain for your money you really cant be an educated car audio enthusiast. Yes JL is good, but for product to cost ratio there are better choices.

and to breitlingdj, I like your install, it's seems really nice from what I've seen and I'm not denying McIntosh's quality (I have ran their amps in the past), the thing is, is the McIntosh superiority complex thing you've got going on. Seems like all you do is go around flaunting your gear in every other post I see you in. Look at your avatar, WE KNOW, get over it for christ sake. For a guy who parks his car outside at night, you certainly do a dangerous amount of advertising of your EXPENSIVE gear.

I currently have over $15,000 in equiptment in my cars, and that's product, all installs were done by ME in MY garage. Have you ever seen or heard me brag about it? No. and you wont unless someone specifically asks via PM.

Maybe it was Nat telling me that I cant afford JL that really set me off here, or just the fact that a Honda Element site is not the best forum for well informed car audio aficionados. Either way, that's where I'm at with this forum.

G

Ok. i wasn't attacking anyone or trying to be a dick. No reason for you to. You may be a great installer or whatever. Big deal. This was my dream system, and is. If you have a problem with me being proud of my system whether or not I built it, get over it fast. You're special. I am too. We both rule. Why bicker?

JL is not the BESt in the world. I believe that they are pretty good. Like I said, so are other things. God almighty. I am not a car audio afficianodo. I am a very serious audio guy, on the home side. thus, when I bought my car, I wanted a great system. I accomplished that. if you have a problem with me, PM me about it. There's no reason to rip on anyone.

My system is unique. there are very few like it. I am PROUD of it, very proud of it. I will NOT stop chipping in my 2 cents - whether you think Im smart enough or not. Thats why its called a FORUM. You have your opinion and I have mine. Let's call it at that. fair enough?

G Force writes:
I'm not going to get into this argument. Everyone on the internet is an expert we all know this, and the ones who argue and show off usually know the least. If you really think JL is the best bargain for your money you really cant be an educated car audio enthusiast. Yes JL is good, but for product to cost ratio there are better choices.

What better Stealth box choices are there besides the JL that custom fit into the console where the stock sub goes?

Custom boxes with good components cost at least that much as the JL. I know because i already priced it. Now if you want a big sub box sitting in the back. Sure I can do it cheaper. But i need all the space I can get.

I'm glad you thought I was a dick with haji intially. That was my intention.
Please direct me to a more economical alternative that fits into the console?

G-Force hit it on the head with his post. Building your dream set up is an awesome accomplishment, don't get me wrong, but for the price it better make music that causes orgasm's. I won't win any SPL contest's but it sure does sound incredible for the airspace it has to move in the E (for the price). As for Nat, I should have spotted you were from Jersey, where it takes someone calling someone a "prick" to become buddies...lmao j/k'n.

I put all sorts of cargo in the rear area. My seats spend more time out of the E then in. The sub box in the back would actually be more economical. I understand the benefits of your systems. For me, cargo space is my #1 priority.
The stealth box feature of fitting into existing dead space trumps all else

This thread is a fun read...hahaha.

I like JL (I have 2 W3's in a JL H.O. box), but was never a fan of them before this current setup. Previously I have had Alpine, Ecplise, Adire, Orion, and a few others. They all had ups and downs. The JL's I have dont require that much power, they are fairly clear, and for ported subs (I prefer sealed hands-down) they sound fantastic. I was afraid of losing the quality I had with my sealed setups and I am not disappointed at all.

I haven't heard the stealthbox yet, though. The one main reason I didnt opt for that sort of setup was the fact that I didnt want my dash sounding like it was made out of styrofoam in 4 years. I was already starting to get some rattling from my stock sub and I didn't want to make it any worse. Since the main point of structure of the dash is the two pieces that the sub bolts onto, I knew this wasnt the option I wanted to persue.

I do have a gigantic 200 pound box in the back of my car, though. So its a trade off you really have to consider.

Gentlemen, Gentlemen,

Let's not lose focus here...the important thing here is that nat said he'd send me his old setup once he gets a stealth box :D

bonanz:
Tomorrow, Tuesday 12/20 at 9:30 AM, I'm scheduled to have the Stealth box installed. If all goes well, I'll post some pics and we can talk about getting you my home made redneck stealth box.

Peace

my home made redneck stealth box.
You might be a redneck stealthbox if:

- instead of bĀss, you put out bĂss

- your woofer was known for its hunting abilities, not its speed and extension

- instead of built in cup holders, you had a built in gun rack


:razz:

You might be a redneck stealthbox if:

- instead of bĀss, you put out bĂss

- your woofer was known for its hunting abilities, not its speed and extension

- instead of built in cup holders, you had a built in gun rack


:razz:
:) Hey, I passed two guys on the road side yesterday with shotguns and their woofer. :twisted:

Ya just never know where some topics will go!

Merry Christmas

Happy Chanuka

Happy Kwannsa bitches (j/k)


Peace

You might be a redneck stealthbox if your mama straddles you just for the thrill. :D

Since we are talking about rednecks and bass, I thought I'd throw this true story in.

My buddy Matt has an Eclipse SW8122 in his Nissan Frontier. He lives on a farm in rural Missouri (just outside of Kansas City's limits) in a small house. One day his redneck landlord came over to ask him what kind of speakers he had in his truck because he was impressed how loud it was. Matt opened his truck up and pointed to his 12" subwoofer. His landlord responded with "You mean you only have one Bass?".

Swear to god.

so Nat, what's the word? are you stealth boxin' it?

bonanz:
The Stealth was in the warehouse when it should have been at the dealer. I showed up but no Stealth was in house. I'm scheduled again for tomorow, Keep yer fingers crossed.