I just found this little gem for sale at one of my favorite websites

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/8426/

How about that for a schweet little add-on for the ****pit. I was used to having a display similar to this in my Grand Cherokee. It had a nice trip computer which showed items like fuel economy as well as gauges for voltage, oil pressure and stuff like that. As much as I like my E, I'm always wanting more information about what's going on under the hood. That little temp gague just doesn't cut it for me.

If I end up getting one of these guys I will be sure to post pics and opinions. The compulsive bargain shopper in me just needs to check around for better prices first ;-)

Nice find. So it's powered by and gets all its data from the OBD-II port? Since it probably can't sense what gear the tranny is in, I assume it estimates engine load and MPG from manifold pressure?

I soooo want one.

PDF SGII manual at the ScanGauge Web site (http://www.scangauge.com/SGIIManual.pdf).

The ScanGauge site sells direct but for the same price as ThinkGeek. Guess $170 is MSRP.

let us know if you get one and how well it works!

OMG I want one of those so bad! One of my few complaints about the E is that it does not have a trip computer like some of the other newer cars that I have seen. I really might need to get one, especially if it can be taken out of one car and plugged directly into another without any reprogramming or anything.

Welllllllll... it will probably not give you MPG with the E, or if it does, it will be a wild guess at best. Many carmakers put "extra" information in the OBD-II data stream which can be used to derive MPG, but Honda isn't one of 'em - we just have the minimum data points required by the EPA.

:-(

Welllllllll... it will probably not give you MPG with the E, or if it does, it will be a wild guess at best. Many carmakers put "extra" information in the OBD-II data stream which can be used to derive MPG, but Honda isn't one of 'em - we just have the minimum data points required by the EPA.

:-(

oh, well that sucks. I only want one if it is going to give me accurate info. :-|

Welllllllll... it will probably not give you MPG with the E, or if it does, it will be a wild guess at best. Many carmakers put "extra" information in the OBD-II data stream which can be used to derive MPG, but Honda isn't one of 'em - we just have the minimum data points required by the EPA.

:-(Maybe just the E...cause it's in my Accord ;-)

I have little knowledge of my engine and was wondering where this is located >>>OBD-II port<<<. If it is an easy installation I just may have to order one!

EDIT: Never mind. I just saw the price I miss-read earlier. I will have to pass.

Maybe just the E...cause it's in my Accord ;-)
Your hybrid doesn't count because the MPG readout is a marketing feature. It has nothing (or little) to do with the data that's available through the OBD port.

Dh would love this in my E!

I have had the ScanGuage I for quite some time now. It predates my E. I am thinking of putting a velcro mount in the cubby by the stearing wheel. I also use it to read codes off of my older cars. That way I can fix simple stuff like exhaust manifold O2 sensors myself.

Anyone know the location of the OBDII plug? I can't find it in the Service Manual.

Anyone know the location of the OBDII plug? I can't find it in the Service Manual.
Your right knee almost points at it when you're in the driver's seat, right of the fusebox and slightly towards you. It resembles a Centronics-type parallel printer connector, but in our E's it's facing downward which makes it a little hard to spot.

By law they're supposed to be easy to locate... :twisted:

Thanks. I went ahead an ordered a ScanGaugeII.

Thanks. I went ahead an ordered a ScanGaugeII.
Let us know how it works out.
It looks like it gives me all the information my Passat provides (built in / standard) plus a few more (error codes). Very useful stuff.

Looks like my credit card is gonna get a little work. One of my very few complaints about my E is the lack of engine management info. What a neat idea, plugging into the OBDII jack!

Thanks. I went ahead an ordered a ScanGaugeII.

Now, why doesn't that surprise me!

Very cool, should be a nice edition to your already amazingly mod'd E

-Dan

(I'm thinking I may be next with the credit card out!)

It's been like a week. Has anyone install one of these yet? :cool:

I just found this little gem for sale at one of my favorite websites

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/8426/



Cool find. I've bought a lot of things from thinkgeek, can't believe I hadn't run into this there before. Gotta save up some money to get one, but would be interested in hearing from anyone who gets it installed.

Welllllllll... it will probably not give you MPG with the E, or if it does, it will be a wild guess at best. Many carmakers put "extra" information in the OBD-II data stream which can be used to derive MPG, but Honda isn't one of 'em - we just have the minimum data points required by the EPA.
:-(

Anyone know of a list out there that shows what data is in the OBD-II data stream for the Element? Looks like the scan guage can a lot of different data, just wondering how much of it is available on the Element. Thx

Anyone know of a list out there that shows what data is in the OBD-II data stream for the Element? Looks like the scan guage can a lot of different data, just wondering how much of it is available on the Element. Thx
(I am sitting here banging my head against the monitor knowing that I have this information... but not quite at my fingertips. You see, the one authoritative source I have is my OBD scan tool, but it crashed a while back and needs to be re-uploaded, and the one computer I have which supports the upload software is packed-away in a box that hasn't been touched since our move six months ago. And the available codesets are not in the docs, they're polled on the fly. So all told it would take 3-4 hours to put Humpty back together again, and that's just not going to happen for a few days.)

Hopefully somebody else can answer your query. There are 12 data points - the ones I can recall are MPH, RPM, intake air temp, coolant temp, "demand", fuel trim (can't compute MPG from trim - it's a relative value), and a couple of oxygen sensor readings, in volts or millivolts. A smidgeon of useful stuff, but in comparison Ford and GM have like 200 possible parameters you can get to.

There are 12 data points - the ones I can recall are MPH, RPM, intake air temp, coolant temp, "demand", fuel trim (can't compute MPG from trim - it's a relative value), and a couple of oxygen sensor readings, in volts or millivolts. A smidgeon of useful stuff, but in comparison Ford and GM have like 200 possible parameters you can get to.

Well that's a bummer.

I do like how the ScanGauge II is waaaay nicer-looking that the original one.

- Jeff

I'm thinking of adding the Scan gauge II also. It's nice to have the geeky info at hand. Here's another similar unit that displays through your monitor, if you have one that is.

http://store.clubrsx.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BWE-R2000&Category_Code=BWE&Product_Count=3

OK, the ScanGaugeII is in, and works great. Installation is totally plug-and-play unless you make things harder, as I did. Here's what happened:

First I tested the thing, and it worked. Then I cut the cable, which is quite long, to avoid coiling it or having it get in the way. I put a new RJ-45 connector on the cable, plugged it into the unit, and ... nothing. No display. Naturally I thought I had miswired the connector, but two more attempts produced the same result.

Later I noticed that the dome light behaved strangely: With the ignition key in the lock, opening and closing the doors caused the light to cycle, but with the key out, the doors wouldn't activate the light. I knew there was power to the light, and that the door switches work. Had I screwed up the computer somehow?

Also, the radio didn't work, yet the radio's power fuse (under-dash fuse No. 8) was OK, and there was power to the fuse. So I pulled the radio and checked the connections at the back. There was no power at connection A10 (constant power). That was the key, because the schematic shows that A10 is powered by under-hood fuse No. 9. That fuse was blown. It powers the radio memory, without which the radio won't turn on even though it has primary power.

Under-hood fuse No. 9 also powers the part of the dome light circuit controlled by the doors but not the ignition key. And a bunch of other things, including the keyless entry receiver and of course the OBDII, which is how this all started. I must have had the OBDII plug connected when I cut the cable, momentarily shorting the power wire to the grounded shielding. Stupid me!

So far, this is what I know the unit displays: Closed/open loop status; intake air temp; coolant temp; fuel flow (estimated); ignition timing; mpg (estimated); speed; manifold pressure; rpm; throttle position; and voltage. I didn't notice whether it has a value for engine load specifically (manifold pressure covers that), and I'm pretty sure it doesn't report fuel pressure.

My only quibble so far is that manifold pressure is displayed in pounds per square inch (0-15) or kilo-pascals (0-10); I'd prefer inches of mercury because I'm used to thinking of it as manifold vacuum. But that's pretty small potatoes.

Because I blew the fuse, my air bag light is on now and has to be reset. Oh well. [EDIT: The ScanGauge claims to read error codes, but it didn't see the air bag error (guess it's not part of the standard DTC set). So I reset the light with the SCS service connector as usual.]

There's a jack on the back of the unit and one on the side. I used the rear jack, cut a hole in the dash behind it, and mounted the unit with 3M Dual Lock (http://www.3m.com/3Msearch/3Mproduct/reclosable-fasteners) fasteners.

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/eoc/scangauge.jpg
MPG (estimated) is zero because car was sitting still when photo was taken.

The display color and brightness can be changed. The "red" is actually a dark orange, but at the low brightness setting it doesn't bother me and blends reasonably well with my red gauges and radio.

It took a full week to arrive by Priority Mail from Arizona. By comparison, I got my passenger's side door lock switch from J's Garage in Tokyo in four days—obviously not by USPS!

Sounds like quite an adventure. Pretty awesome information the OBDII gives you...wish they were cheaper so I could get one.

Just in case anyone is curious, they will be releasing another version of the ScanGauge II later this year which will include a mounting bracket for those of you who don't want to/don't like to use velcro (like me, don't take it personally ramblerdan).

The lack of a bracket is the only thing that has kept me from buying one so far. After seeing Dan's post, I am Galapagos Green Metallic with envy ;-)

For me, this purchase will have to wait until they have a better mounting solution available. In the meantime I will just have to guess at my manifold pressure and throttle position

any additional info regarding MPG? does this give a pretty close estimate?

or does it give a distance to empty?

any additional info regarding MPG? does this give a pretty close estimate? or does it give a distance to empty?
It gives distance to empty if you enter your tank size and tell it when you fill up, but I wouldn't trust it. The MPG estimate fluctuates greatly as you accelerate and decelerate, so it's more of a training aid for economical driving technique than a useful mpg approximator. You could get the same kind of feedback from the throttle position or manifold pressure display.

thats awesome......

I am going to add this to my geek list....

I just got mine installed. I mounted it on top of the steering column, right below the speedo. It mostly blocks the factory odometer, but I don't need to look at that all time, and the Scangauge II replaces it to some extent.

I can say that this thing is awesome. I set it to the most rapid data update rate, so I get MPG readings every second. Even if it isn't 100% accurate, it is an amazing tool to help you get better MPG because you see instantly how your driving behavior and traffic conditions contribute to MPG. For instance, on the freeway this morning I was getting close to 40 mpg while drafting a row of pickups and minivans in the fast lane at 80 mph. Later, when I had to accellerate through slower traffic to get over for my exit, my mpg dropped to 10.

It also illustrates the merit of upshifting whenever cruising along a level road. The ScanGauge shows that I get ~35 mpg in 4th gear at 35 mph. If I stay in 3rd, my mpg is only ~22.

The installation was a breeze, and I can easily say this is one of the best mods I have ever done on any car I've owned.

This looks interesting also. About the same price and though it doesn't have an instantaneous display it records all the data for 50-300 hours of driving (depending on how many parameters you monitor) and then uploads it all to your PC to give you a load of historical data.

http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/driveright_carchip_e_x_obd_scan_tool_review

I have an original ScanGuage 1 & I gotta tell you....I dont think I could live without it.... My astro van has 382,000 miles & counting & throws a CEL every other week for something silly.....One of the most useful tools I own... Pat

This looks interesting also...
http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/driveright_carchip_e_x_obd_scan_tool_review
Different purpose, as you noted, but very cool.

Well, I bought a Scangauge II. Ordered it a few minutes ago from the manufacturer. I will mount it in the dash below my single-DIN stock LX radio (in place of the useless little bin there now) in a blockoff plate I'll make to fit.

Well, I did it. Package arrived yesterday and its in place. Fits perfectly under the LX radio. I pulled the radio and drilled a hole at the back of the CD bin to route the cable, and wrapped the unit with a couple turns of electricians tape to build up the height a bit to make a tight fit in the opening. I'll go back later and build a proper blockoff to mount the guage in.

I'm happy! :-) I love data.

I just ordered one.

You won't be disappointed. I regularly monitor my throttle positioning, RPM, speed and instantaneous MPG to save gas. When I'm getting to the bottom of the tank the "miles to empty" is really nice.

So what will this thing not do in an 06 Element?

I'd like to buy one - but priced on the high side for me.
Anyone find a better deal?
Tanks..........:)

Anyone find a better deal?
Tanks..........:)

I couldn't find a one on any of the online auctions. I think you are gonna pay retail on this thing for quite a while, just like the rest of us.

Yup that's what it looks like to as well. Retail oh boy.............

Got it in the mail today. Me likey.

The only thing it does not display is the fuel pressure.

I am impressed.

If you Google it you can find them for $150 or so. Another brand can be found at http://www.brockwayengineering.com

Another brand can be found at http://www.brockwayengineering.com


:-o :-o Jebus, you gotta have a video monitor to even use that one!!

:-o :-o Jebus, you gotta have a video monitor to even use that one!!
You only need a video display for the R2000, the R920 looks similar to the Scan Gauge. The price on the R920 is $195 but, I like the looks of the Scan Gauge better.

When I get closer to purchasing, I'll have to do a feature comparison, as well figure out where to mount it in my 06 EX.

I'll speak with Rambler Dan this weekend for a demo and advice.

Did you guys see this list of codes? Wow!

http://www.brockwayengineering.com/codes.html

Did you guys see this list of codes? Wow!

http://www.brockwayengineering.com/codes.html


I swear to doG that I was just gonna post a new thread asking for a list of fault codes.

Thanks!

My only complaint about this scanguage II is that the buttons just kinda rattle around in the case. Seems a bit on the cheap side to me. But I am still very happy with the unit, all in all.

so it has been established that the device records acurage MPG and what not?

thanks!

The ScanGauge cannot accurately calculate MPG because it doesn't know much gas is in your tank (like MPG, "miles remaining to empty" is an estimate only). They could have designed the thing so the owner enters mileage and gas pumped at each fill, but then that's what a $1 calculator is for.

The mileage driven is as accurate as the odometer (they both receive the same data feed), and can be more accurate if you have over/under sized tires. You can adjust for different tire sizes. And you can enter the gas pumped at each fill; it displays what it calculates the fillup to be and you can change it up or down in increments of a tenth of a gallon.

The ScanGauge cannot accurately calculate MPG because it doesn't know much gas is in your tank (like MPG, "miles remaining to empty" is an estimate only). They could have designed the thing so the owner enters mileage and gas pumped at each fill, but then that's what a $1 calculator is for.

Yes, a $170 ScanGauge can do the work of a $1 calculator if you tell it how many gallons have been pumped. But the MPG figure that displays while driving is only an approximation based on (presumably) manifold pressure. There's no actual fuel-flow data for it to interpret or display.

True, but it learns. Each time you fill up (they recommend using the same station, same pump, same time of day, and stop at the first "click") the scangauge displays how much gas it thinks you should have pumped. You can then adjust the number to the actual amount pumped and the scangauge refines the average adjustment factor it uses to calculate MPG, etc. Fer instance, mine currently has an adjustment factor of 6.7 percent, and at each fillup I have to adjust the actual gallons less and less. Last fillup I put in 14.6 gallons, the scangauge had calculated I needed to put in 14.8. Close enough for me!

Yes, a $170 ScanGauge can do the work of a $1 calculator if you tell it how many gallons have been pumped. But the MPG figure that displays while driving is only an approximation based on (presumably) manifold pressure. There's no actual fuel-flow data for it to interpret or display.

True, but it learns. Each time you fill up (they recommend using the same station, same pump, same time of day, and stop at the first "click") the scangauge displays how much gas it thinks you should have pumped. You can then adjust the number to the actual amount pumped and the scangauge refines the average adjustment factor it uses to calculate MPG, etc. Fer instance, mine currently has an adjustment factor of 6.7 percent, and at each fillup I have to adjust the actual gallons less and less. Last fillup I put in 14.6 gallons, the scangauge had calculated I needed to put in 14.8. Close enough for me!

How are you getting 14.6 gallons in....I am below E light on.....and get 13.8
Are you using this to show how much gas you have in the tank ....there for go farther knowng exactly how much you have in the tank versus guessing?

How are you getting 14.6 gallons in....I am below E light on.....and get 13.8
The tank holds 15.9 gallons, so when I have only 1.3 gallons left in the tank I can pump in 14.6 :)
Are you using this to show how much gas you have in the tank ....there for go farther knowng exactly how much you have in the tank versus guessing?
Yes, I use the estimated gallons/miles remaining in the tank as a guide to know when I should fill up. My dash light comes on when I have gone 285 miles on a tank, but there's a whole lot more driving I can do beyond that. At my average of 24mpg I have a theoretical range of 381.6 miles.

You GOTTA get this thing!

The tank holds 15.9 gallons, so when I have only 1.3 gallons left in the tank I can pump in 14.6 :)

Yes, I use the estimated gallons/miles remaining in the tank as a guide to know when I should fill up. My dash light comes on when I have gone 285 miles on a tank, but there's a whole lot more driving I can do beyond that. At my average of 24mpg I have a theoretical range of 381.6 miles.

You GOTTA get this thing!

i understand the numbers....My E just does not show the same info...below E and the light on....I get 13.8...never more than 14 gallon fill ups...so I thought this unit may be more accurate...or its into the dealer for a last minute warranty push

i understand the numbers....My E just does not show the same info...below E and the light on....I get 13.8...never more than 14 gallon fill ups...so I thought this unit may be more accurate...or its into the dealer for a last minute warranty push
That's the beauty of the scangauge - albeit estimates, you get a more accurate picture of your fuel situation than the non-linear dash gauge gives. If you are never putting in more than 14 gallons you are always fueling up when you have another 45 miles more driving left in the tank, on average. When my dash fuel warning light goes on I begin monitoring my miles and gallons remaining, and plan my refueling accordingly.

I'm reminded of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer is taking a new car for a test drive and he and the salesman experience "below the E." The one time I was certain I would be running out of gas (before I had my scangauge) I was way below the E and hadn't seen a station in miles. Finally found a station and pumped 14.8 gallons. I could have gone another 25 miles!

My point is, the dash warning light and fuel gauge are not as accurate, IMHO, as the "educated" scangauge. Since I drive the same routes, same schedule, same driving habits consistently I have confidence the estimates provided by scangauge can be relied upon.

Installed mine above the sub.......Blue is my favorite night time color.....
I have to read more about all the settings........so far its pretty cool...my favorite is the distance to empty...I will be watching this closely...

my favorite is the distance to empty...I will be watching this closely...
Jim,

Watch it, but don't trust it!

I am hoping some one can tell me the location of the OBDII connector. I just received a ScanGauge II. I couldnt see any connector under the steering wheel area that looked like it would mate with the supplied connector. It seems that a lot'a folks have found it easily.

Thanks!!

Mike nailed it: (http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=277866)

Your right knee almost points at it when you're in the driver's seat, right of the fusebox and slightly towards you ... facing downward (http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=277866&postcount=13)

I got mine for $140 off ebay. I love it. Does anyone know when the external cable will be available? Last I saw it was suppose to come out in October of last year.

If you check the compatibility list of this device, it does not list the Honda Element as being compatible. It does list the accord though. Does it work on the E?

As you can see by reading this thread, it works just fine in the Element.

Thank you very much Rambler.:rolleyes:

I might order one of these for my 2007 Element. Looks cool :cool:

ordered :grin:

Installed today! Awesome toy!

Boots - how's it working?
a previous poster said there weren't enough data points in the stream to get accurate MPG.

does your experience w/scangauge concur?

Anyone ever use this model? http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/performance/brand.php?makeid=1&modelid=279&year=2007&partid=84

Boots - how's it working?
a previous poster said there weren't enough data points in the stream to get accurate MPG.

does your experience w/scangauge concur?

I really enjoy having it. I'm on my second fill up with it and it seems to be getting more and more accurate. Even if the MPG isn't 100% dead on, it still gives you an idea of your fuel mileage and how you can adjust your driving habits to maximize it.

Hi,
I used to use this gadget in my Turbo VW last year. Trust me I needed it cause the engine light came on every month for something. Usually it was
the blow off valve, or an oxygen sensor. Then after hit the scancode reset on the scangauge and off goes the light. Well anyway I'm just looking for a good location for this. So far the best one I can find is on the drivers side left of the
steering wheel on the little shelf there. I'm probably just going to velcro it on.
I'll post pictures when done. Also to answer your questions.. yes you get MPG in realtime. It's not guessed it's calculated with fuel flow and distance traveled.
When you connect it to a vehicle you program the #cylinders, displacement, wheel size, fuel tank size, fuel type (gas, diesel, hybrid) stuff like that. When you fill up you go through the scangauage menu and select fuel tank fill up.
It was damn accurate, so much so that I wanted to see how high the MPG will go if I draft off a big rig. I also was able to see what fuel sucked. let's just say I'll never buy cumberland farms gas for my vehicle again ,it may be cheap but MPG is lower and you can see how far the computer adjusted the advance and fuel mix ratio.. either that or the super that I had to run in the turbo was ****.

This gauge is pretty cool. You can easily see you are having a problem before you actaully have one! Also it helps you modify your driving habits if
you want to maximize your MPG. I hardly use my brakes now because of what I learned. I only use them if I absolutely have to stop.

I used to have this in my turbo vw. Trust me I needed to reset the engine light often after I did my own repair. Stinking blow off valve probs, I replaced with
Audi parts but that's another story.

I think the best place to locate this is the drivers side left of steering wheel
shelf on the dashboard. I'll snake up the cable and velco it in. It's gotta be like that because this device is also an engine code scanner, so I use it when I work on my friends cars.

The MPG calculation is accurate. When you connect it to a vehicle, you need to
run a setup. # cylinders, engine displacment , wheel size, fule type (yes even hybrid is included are all entered in. When you fill your fuel tank youn need to select "fuel tank fillup" in the menu. It was damn accurate on the vw. 26-29mpg. Anyway the vw got traded in.


OK. the gauge is cool, you get engine rpm, fuel flow rate, throttle position, engine advance, incoming air temp (handy for a turbo), engine temp, oil pressure, oil temp, air/fuel mix rate, realtime MPG, and more!

I didn't really install it since I didn't see an ideal location, until now.
So I'll buy some velcro and set it up, I'll post pics when done

I've had mine for several months now. Originally I had it sitting on top of the steering column, but it was too much of a distraction. I moved it down to just above the subwoofer (see pic). I drilled a hole in the console and plugged the wire into the port on the back of the scanner. It was pretty easy. I figure that if I ever get rid of the scanner, I'll just buy one of those black plugs to cover the hole.

36444

I just looked back a couple of pages and saw that jimtesla has a pic of his mounted in the exact same location! You know what they say about great ideas and dirty feet.......they always come in pairs!

If you have an LX with the stock HU and the bin underneath, you can mount it as I have:

I also had the jeep grand chrokee and im gunna miss that digital read out that is already build into the car. This looks like a nice add on tho. Thanks for the info :)

looking for a obd scanner that works well for the element and doesn't cost too much.

Thanks

Rudy

Folded your question into an existing thread, Rudedogsurfrat.

looking for a obd scanner that works well for the element and doesn't cost too much.

Thanks

Rudy

I've seen a comment that Honda doesn't send many parameters to the OBD. What OBD info can Scanguage show on a 2003 E?

I want to use the Scanguage instant MPG to train myself to drive more efficiently but I'd also like to see the auto transmission fluid temperature, oil pressure... there's probably other params I can't think of that would be good to keep an eye on.

Yeah it doesn't show much. Instantaneous MPG is also not completely accurate and is based on throttle body position vs. engine speed. It's not completely off though and does come in handy to get a ballpark estimate. Personally I have voltage, air intake temp, manifold air pressure, and instantaneous MPG.

Here is my install. I decided to mount above the instrument cluster so I could better see MPH (like on our '06 Civic). For me, the steering wheel on the E obstructs the speedo, so mounting the SG above (but close enough to reach the buttons) is ideal. I fabbed a leather-covered enclosure to pretty it up, but still need to work on the cabling. Any suggestions?

Jimbos

Looks GREAT. Only suggestion is to offer them for sale. Soon as I get mine, I'd be ordering from you.

As for cable mounting, you should be able to remove the trim above the dash, squeeze it down through there, into the fuse panel area. What kind of cabling do they send with it, flat cable (ala hard drives) or round cables?

Thanks PRO. The cable is now hidden. It is a round Cat5, so I stripped a short section of the outer casing, flattened out the four twisted pair of wire, and brought it out above the speedo in the seam between the instrument panel and top of dash. Notched both pieces slightly to release stress on the wiring. Invisible.

You guys keep mentioning (some of you anyway) that the Scangauge II can function as an oil pressure gauge, the folks @ Scangauge told me that it doesn't.......which is it? I'd like to add an oil pressure gauge to my Element.

... the Scangauge II can function as an oil pressure gauge, the folks @ Scangauge told me that it doesn't.......which is it? I'd like to add an oil pressure gauge to my Element.
Sorry, no.


Jimbos,

Really nice enclosure!

Thanks! I'll keep looking.

Here's where I mounted mine. I chose this spot because 1) easy, no drilling 2) Little storage bin is still useful 3)wire is easy to run from under the dash and up throught the steering wheel cowling 4) relatively easy to read 5)inconspicuous to would be thieves.

I've read about the x-gauge upgrade with the instantaneous HP reading. Cool, but not sure about the usefulness and $25 upgrade fee.

oh, well that sucks. I only want one if it is going to give me accurate info. :-|

Have you ever thought of the DashHawk ??? I had it on my mazdaspeed 6 and all other cars and its down to the line with information !!! Check it out


www.dashhawk.com


i think you will like !

I know no one has posted to this thread in a few months, but I was looking into purchasing the ScanGauge. I was thinking the one major thing I missed from my Jeep Grand Cherokee was the rear view mirror that had everything in it. On my to-do list is the Gentex mirror mod.

This is a cool gadget which I think I will be purchasing, but I noticed from reading the forum - where to put it?

I saw this on ebay - a bit steep, but would probably look good.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Factory-Mount-ScanGuage-ScanGauge-II-Scan-Gauge_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6755QQihZ008QQite mZ180257485277QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I know no one has posted to this thread in a few months, but I was looking into purchasing the ScanGauge. I was thinking the one major thing I missed from my Jeep Grand Cherokee was the rear view mirror that had everything in it. On my to-do list is the Gentex mirror mod.

This is a cool gadget which I think I will be purchasing, but I noticed from reading the forum - where to put it?

I saw this on ebay - a bit steep, but would probably look good.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Factory-Mount-ScanGuage-ScanGauge-II-Scan-Gauge_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6755QQihZ008QQite mZ180257485277QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Box,

Price is steep, but the ebay posting provides enough details to see how it works. A mount could be fabbed relatively easily to secure the ScanGuage to the E mirror mount.

I actually considered that location, but decided I wanted a more heads-up display (see http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=546714&postcount=80). Also, that location was already occupied by my Nuvi (see http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=558799&postcount=21).

Has anyone installed this or the Dashhawk on a '07? I would like to know if it displays trans temp and drive by wire throttle info. How accurate is the mpg's as compared to actual fuel used.

I fall into the group who find the steerig wheel blocks my view of the top of the speedometer when I have it adjusted the way I prefer. I'm planning to purchase a Scanguage shortly and install it on top of the steering column as others have done.

Will it be a useful replacement for the speedometer and can the color/brightness be adjusted to see clearly?

The gauge can't provide an accurate read on mileage, as the OBD2 port on the Element doesn't have a specific output for that, it can only give a rough reading at best.

On cars that have the fuel flow and consumption rate outputing to the OBD2 port, it will give an accurate reading.

It will display the same speed as your needle gauge. The background color is selectable, but not brightness.

Just got mine yesterday and hooked it up. Installation was VERY easy. Plug and Play. My ONLY complaint is the velcro. I'm gonna replace that with 3M dual lock (velcro analogue with a significantly higher grip and no thread side).
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Low-Profile-Reclosable-Fastener-70070968048/dp/B0006HVM72

Hopefully this will assist in future maintenance work and keep my baby runnin great:D

Here's where I mounted mine. I chose this spot because 1) easy, no drilling 2) Little storage bin is still useful 3)wire is easy to run from under the dash and up throught the steering wheel cowling 4) relatively easy to read 5)inconspicuous to would be thieves.

I've read about the x-gauge upgrade with the instantaneous HP reading. Cool, but not sure about the usefulness and $25 upgrade fee.

i was just looking a the scangauge because i am planning to get one. and i notices that from what i understand you can just follow these directions for FREE and to get the HP readings.

http://www.scangauge.com/support/horsepower.shtml

Thanks, Gboy

I still yet to buy this handy tool.

I've debated buying one of these for a while, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. It looks as though it would also be great for looking at used cars, in terms of HP output, or other outputs. I'm looking at buying a used 2001 or 2002 Lexus IS300 for a replacement to my commuter car; would I be able to tell the relative health of the engine by connecting it and checking HP output? Does this make sense or am I hoping for too much from this unit?
thanks Josh

You won't get HP from this unit. You need a dyno for that. This unit ouputs individual sensor values like intake air temp, coolant temp, RPM, etc. It will also calculate some values based on your input of information, for example fuel mileage.

I've debated buying one of these for a while, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. It looks as though it would also be great for looking at used cars, in terms of HP output, or other outputs. I'm looking at buying a used 2001 or 2002 Lexus IS300 for a replacement to my commuter car; would I be able to tell the relative health of the engine by connecting it and checking HP output? Does this make sense or am I hoping for too much from this unit?
thanks Josh


That is a lot to ask from an instrument that was designed to be more generic than brand specific.

There are far too many variables in individual engine characteristics, to enable you to make that kind of a determination with it.

Dom

There site seems to suggest with the newest software "add a gauge" you can get HP stats.
Well it was a hope at least.

There site seems to suggest with the newest software "add a gauge" you can get HP stats.
Well it was a hope at least.

The top line of that link:

Click Here for Add-A-Gauge™ and XGauge commands
NOTE: Not all commands are available on all vehicles.

Just got one of these and was just wondering how accurate is the HP reading is.

Thanks garrett

Just got one of these and was just wondering how accurate is the HP reading is.

Thanks garrett

i would really like to know. because i am getting some wierd readings and want to make sure i dont have a faulty one.

thanks

i would really like to know. because i am getting some wierd readings and want to make sure i dont have a faulty one.

thanks
please help. :D

Wish I could help, but I never worried about that add-on. Mostly I just use it to view: water temp (-6 degrees out today, gotta make sure the engine hits 100 before I roll out) RPM, Voltage (keeping an eye on the new batt.) and TPS (just to monitor driving habits.)
Problem is that engine horsepower (what's being displayed) will be different than what HP actually reaches the road, for an accurate measure of that, you will need it measured by professionals.
Interesting read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Just got one the other day and this thing is cool. I'm mounting it in the left-side cubby.

Right now I'm monitoring trip MPG, instant MPG, voltage and coolant temp.

I ran it for a while with open/closed loop and it read open when i was coasting (and the instant MPG would go to 9999). i presume this is normal?

Yup, it is.
There isn't a way of accurately gauging moment to moment MPG as there aren't a couple of necessary sensors (If you search under MPG or Mileage you may find the relevant threads) But it will give you a good general health monitor of your engine.

I've had the thing mounted on the steering column in front of the speedo for a little over a year. I put it there because the way I like to adjust the wheel it blocks the top of the speedo, and I use the mph read out. I've found the TPS (throttle position sensor) reading is a good tool for watching fuel economy. I have it reading right next to the mpg reading and there is a strong correlation. Kind of fits with what we all know, if you want to get good mileage keep your foot out of it!

On Hondas the reading is 9 at idle. If you can keep the reading under 20 (not easy) you will get an improvement in MPG.

I plan on hitting the road again by the end of summer, beginning of fall and have heard about the ScanGauge ii and read some reviews and researched a bit of it.

Does anyone on here have one hooked up to their Element and can give me insight if it's worth the money or not?

Thanks,

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