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: My First Kayak experience


Snarf77
06-26-2006, 12:32 PM
Alright, I'll try to keep this short, sweet, and not cry too much about how sore i am. :)

Starting now.

Four buddies and I drove about 5.5 hours down from DC to take a beginner kayaking course in the New River. We drove down Friday in the storm from hell and crashed in a powerless hotel and woke up via cell phone alarm.

Rain had ceased by the morning and we drove to the outfitter and got sized up for our kayaks. First, they didn't have many to choose from. Two, the foot pads wouldn't move far enough forward! I'm 6 feet, 200 lbs, with a 33 inch inseam.

The instructor was a 5 foot 4 girl of MAYBE 120 pounds..and she could have kicked all of our butts at one time. She strapped all 4 of our kayaks to her corolla, which was a sight to see. We even had to drive over a 5-6 inch downed tree getting to the river! Sweet right!?

I'll start with the ending. I'm nearly dead and I have a new respect for whitewater kayakers. Now..the beginning; I mastered the art of getting into the kayak in about 10 minutes. My skirt was a little too small and required mega force to fit the coqpit. After chickening out a couple of times, i mastered the wet exit in about 15 minutes and 5 or 6 trys. Its a bit intimidating at first considering how hard it is to get in and out of one of those.

Anyway, My kayak didn't fit quite right and I moved a bit left to right in the water, which was moving. I had to correct my forward motion about every 3 or 4 strokes. That lead to me being dead tired by lunch and frustrated about my near-inability to track strait ahead.

After lunch, I worked on my hip flick. I say worked on it, because you'd have to work miracles to get an eskimo roll down in a single day. I managed to get up on my own only once, and couldn't do it at all when holding the paddle. UGH!

I worked on my going in a strait line for a few more hours and paddled upstream maybe a 1/4 mile. We never hit the rapids for fear of death but we did get near some bad undercuts that began to suck our boats towards them..slightly scary on Day 1. I only swam about 5 times during the day, but each time wasn't very fun. Those boats hold a LOT of water. I was beat. We ended up a a joint called Dirty Earnie's Rib Pit which was overpriced but good. I'm so sore today that walking is a chore, and i never did actually go strait for more than 30 yards..oh well

SO, now I want to go again, but I want to stay closer to home. Any VA/DC/MD folks know of a good local place that gives lessons affordably with rental gear? If I want to buy a plastic boat to save on rental fees, what is a good one for bigger folks..6 ft, 200..? I don't want one of the flat odd shaped trick boats, but more of the oblong rounded boats. A very technical description, I know.

IRV
06-26-2006, 05:38 PM
Sounds like fun.....:shock: Great write up.

Actually , it will be one of your the most prominent memories even when your 80 years old.:)

Can't help with your other questions. 30 years ago I got caught on a bike trip in the West Virgina mountains the day after 6" of rain fell overnight....But that's a different story.:cool:

Kayakin' Dan
06-27-2006, 12:47 AM
Snarf, Sounds about right. Sorry you didn't get an appropriate boat, it could have been a lot more fun and one thing to remember, whitewater kayaks don't go straight. Ever. Sounds like you need to find a used Perception SuperSonic, but go here and see if you can find something that suits you: http://www.dagger.com/product.asp?link=whitewater

Snarf77
06-27-2006, 05:41 AM
I was looking at the Dagger RPM and the Dagger RPM Max. The RPM is one of the best beginner kayaks out there it seems, but i'm confused about one thing. The RPM is for 110-230 lbs and the RPM Max is for 180 - 265.

They BOTH include my weight class of about 195-200, which i don't get really. Perhaps its purely based on my leg length or girth and my ability to fit into the coc.kpit? I guess I'll hit up one of the many local dealers in the area and try to get sized up there.

So fun..so sore.

Hondamade4dogs
06-27-2006, 08:12 AM
First time kayakers, try out the mainstream patriot yesterday on Lake hefner in OKC, North wind was blowing 30mph...Not a bad ride ! Francis age 6 enjoyed the ride in front!

Hondamade4dogs
06-27-2006, 08:23 AM
Some suggestions...go to the book store..Pick up Canoe & Kayak, WhiteWater, and Canoe & Kayak Beginner's Guide magazines, read these cover to cover, and then attend some classes, maybe pick up a roll class and learn to roll your boat without getting out, (less water in the boat), thentry out every boat you can, find one that fits you best and by a boat(or two, or three) and then go to the lake or river everyday, ride your boat, Paddle or Die,....and if you get into a kayak, and it is not comfortable, get out of it, or you will get hurt...:shock:

some of us have a rec boat, whitewater, playboat, and touring boat.....all are different, and all get used....:-D

orange_spokes
06-28-2006, 09:38 AM
hey dude...ive been kayaking for 2 years now...if i were you i would look up liquidlogic kayaks...i have one of there hoss kayaks...its a great beginner easy to roll...great for surfing, playing, creeking all around good boat...if you have any questions shoot me a message im pretty good with kayaking knowledge

Grabloop
06-28-2006, 11:22 AM
There are several clubs in the MD/VA/DC area. Monocacy Canoe Club, Mason Dixon Canoe Cruisers, and CCA, do a Google search for any of them. Harpers Ferry has a couple outfitters that all offer instruction. Closer to DC call Outdoor Excursions 1-800-77-KAYAK, they're a real good outfit. Don't buy a boat until you're sure of the boat you want, demo, demo, demo. As for a first boat I would highly recommend going used and not buying from REI, Hudson Trail, etc. Brad up at Starrk Moon Kayaks sells used boats. He's about an hour out of DC in Delta, PA, his number is 717-456-7720. In the DC area checkout Springriver Canoe/Kayak. As for going straight it's just a matter of technique and you'll get it. Be careful, it's addicting. Hope that helps. Let me know if you need anymore info.

boley
06-29-2006, 01:18 PM
Listen to what the above poster says about buying used. No sense wasting cash on a new boat when you are learning. Find a few models you like, and then look around until you find something used. Spend some time reading Boatertalk's (http://www.boatertalk.com/forum/BoaterTalk) forums and browsing their GearSwap forum. Starkk Moon are good people too.

Oh, and to rub a bit of salt in your wounds I should let you know that I once saw a young lady learn to roll on her 3rd attempt. It took me a couple of hours in the pool to learn . . . and 14 years later it could still use improvment.:twisted:

Snarf77
06-30-2006, 09:06 AM
There are several clubs in the MD/VA/DC area. Monocacy Canoe Club, Mason Dixon Canoe Cruisers, and CCA, do a Google search for any of them. Harpers Ferry has a couple outfitters that all offer instruction. Closer to DC call Outdoor Excursions 1-800-77-KAYAK, they're a real good outfit. Don't buy a boat until you're sure of the boat you want, demo, demo, demo. As for a first boat I would highly recommend going used and not buying from REI, Hudson Trail, etc. Brad up at Starrk Moon Kayaks sells used boats. He's about an hour out of DC in Delta, PA, his number is 717-456-7720. In the DC area checkout Springriver Canoe/Kayak.


Thanks for the great info. I absolutely plan on buying used WHEN and I decide to buy. I would just go to REI, HTO, Galyans or wherever just to see what models I fit into well and relative new prices and to get info on whats out there...then i'll head to a place like Starrk moon.

I found a local roll class, which seems to be about the most important thing to learn. The class is in MD. 2 hours costs me 50 bucks and all equipment is included. I figure after a couple times of that, I should have the basic eskimo roll down. Then I'll be off to the potomac or wherever to demo a few boats and work on the going straight forward technique. :)


I can't believe someone got the roll on the third try. Its the most unnatural movement ever. That or my instructor wasn't all that good...

corbow
06-30-2006, 12:27 PM
When I lived in VA I used to go to a pool on the south side of the beltway for free (or at least very low cost) roll practice. I never did develop a bombproof roll, but I took a guy I was dating out to a lake in the area and explained the roll to him. Of course, HE got it right away. It was counter to everything I'd been told about women learning the roll more easily because of our center of gravity being lower.