Hey,
I am very interested in hydrogen - & alternative fuels. This one caught my eye 'cuz it has a touch of e in it. Waddaya think?
j

Looks like a Saturn Vue to me.

yeah, I think so too, I actually only like the front end.
Of course I like our doors better too!

No need for a 4 dr.
But I'd like to see the E as a hybred of some sorts.
Know we're years 'till we get there, but I'd like to see comptetitors for fuel.
j

Since you mentioned hydrogen... :-D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hype_about_Hydrogen

I didn't know about the seriousness of the CO2 penalty of hydrogen generation until reading that article.

In my politico-techno opinion, hydrogen is being used as a smokescreen. The reality of consumer products with fuel cells is that they are a generation away. But we were also told that a generation ago, and have forgotten, the public's memory being short. "They" - whoever "they" are - are hoping we'll forget this latest promise, too, while everything else goes on, business as usual.

What's sad is that hydrogen is also being used as an excuse to under-fund other energy storage alternatives, including batteries. Don't forget that fuel cell cars are just electric cars with a different type of "battery". We're on the verge of some great breakthroughs in battery technology - Lithium-Ion Polymer (LiPoly), and graphite-matrix lead-acid - that reduce battery weight by 80% while tripling usable range.

Hydrogen isn't the only method in development to store vehicle energy, just the current media darling.

Wow, thanks for that input. Did you read Romm's book as well? It's amazing to how very distorted impressions can be. I watched 2 documentaries and both were discussing the issue and both were based out of Iceland. Why they would want to swicth to hydro from geothermal is confusing.

And of course no on ever tells you that the green house gases produced from generating hydrogen is happening.

Great article Thanks!
jurn

No, I haven't read the book yet. I didn't know about it until it was mentioned in Who Killed the Electric Car?, which I viewed on Saturday.

Electrolysis H2 takes scads of power. I think the Icelanders are emphasizing geothermal because they have LOTS of it randomly venting into the air, and tapping that source is less of an enviromental impact than building more dams.

Iceland is uniquely positioned and will probably be the only hydrogen economy on the planet - isolated, surrounded by water (the raw material) and more power generation ability than they can eat. Also, an advantage of hydrogen is that regular ol' internal combusion engines can be run on it - you don't have to wait for fuel cells. Once you solve the production, storage, distribution and vehicle storage problems, of course. ;-)