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: My Friday Night Date With Ella & Hella


K-Dogg
07-29-2006, 05:49 AM
Aloha Kakou:
Well, arrived home from work to find that my package frm Autobarn arrived w/my Hella Dual Horn kit and needless to say, I was pretty amped! :D Ripped into the box and... found two horns, two brackets, and a relay. :shock: No wires, connectors, or the like (well, to give Autobarn the benefit of the doubt, the website did say that the kit only included the horns, brackets, relay and instructions)...

Promptly logged on to the EOC to review all the posts regarding horn installs and since very few had pictures still attached, I kinda had to decipher the directions in the posts. Drew up my own crude wiring diagram, laid out a mat in my workspace, and proceeded to remove the front fascia, which came off quite easily.

Had a look at the OE Bosch horn and there is one lead wire that connects to the horn via a snap connector. The Hella's have universal tab mounts, which obviously were not compatible w/the OE connector. I determined I needed the following in order to proceed with the install: Two (2) wires to connect to the +/- tabs, two (2) female slip-fit connectors, one (1) wire cutter/crimping tool, soldering iron, solder, heat shrink tubing, electrical tape.

You need to understand that I haven't handled a soldering iron since middle school, so the install started to look rather daunting... Armed w/my crude diagram and parts list, I decided to damn the torpedoes and rushed over to Radio Shack to purchase my supplies. Arriving back home, I made the decision that rather than running both Hella's, I'd keep the OE horn in place and run one of the Hella's as an auxiliary. They came in a 300Hz/500Hz set and I ultimately ran the 500Hz in order to get close to a dual tone w/the OE horn.

I then fabricated two wires with the slip-fit connectors, one (red) positive and one (black) ground wire. I then spliced the red wire into the OE lead wire, soldered in place as best I could, and ran some heat shrink tubing to keep everything neat. Next, the Hella horn was mounted on the forward portion of the frame member and grounded the black wire to the mounting bolt. Connected the red wire, reattached the battery cable and proceeded with a test blast. Fire in the hole!!! HONK! Okay, it's pretty loud, but the OE/Hella combo is a dual tone, but somewhat dissonant. Well, as long as it gets the other guy's attention, I'm happy. :rolleyes:

Proceeded to button up the front fascia, and guess what?? No fit! The Hella is so large (nearly 5" in diameter), that in it's present mounting location, it interfered with the fog light protrusions!!! ARGHHHH! :mad: Okay. Remove the fascia, dick around with the brackets, made a near 90 degree bend and tried a test fit. Better, but not quite right. Bend some more, get the bracket as close to a right angle as I possibly could. Another test fit. Okay, but it's still close. Buttoned up the fascia, tightened up the battery cables, and went for a test drive. All is well! It works! :D If I for some reason, get ambitious in the future, I may try to install the 2nd Hella... I guess attaching a slip-fit connector to the OE wire wouldn't be a big deal, but that's perhaps for another time.

Just a word of caution. If you have fogs installed and want to do this upgrade, it may be best to go with a smaller horn or fabricate a longer bracket to keep it away from the fog light assembly. I didn't have any bracket material so I had to work with what came in the kit. This is how it sums up: Hella Supertone Dual Horn $65.00 + shipping from Autobarn. Miscellaneous wires, crimps, connectors, and tools from Radio Shack $40.00. Total upgrade: $110.00 and about 4.5 hours for the install, including the parts run to Radio Shack.

Well, at least I've learned something; how to remove the front fascia!

elemento
07-29-2006, 02:48 PM
Sounds like you had a good date K.....You plan on seeing her again lol..

K-Dogg
07-29-2006, 03:30 PM
Sounds like you had a good date K.....You plan on seeing her again lol..

I dunno Elemento, they're both kinda high maintenance, they don't dance, and they're now both a couple of loudmouths... :roll:

naluboy
07-29-2006, 07:41 PM
:lol: That's funny. Looks like you had your hands full. Next cruise you can lead and clear the way for us with your new horns... :razz: Nah nice job K-Dogg I'd like to hear them on our next get together. :cool:

elemento
07-29-2006, 09:30 PM
lol@k....damn all you peeps doing mods...been awhile since I did one....still planning on turning my HVAC controls LED blue and red to match my intrument panel...but damn I am so tempted to alter my vertical....thanks to Nalu....thanks dude =) <----sarcasm...cool

tanega
07-30-2006, 12:05 AM
Damn,

THey look like really loud...got to post a address to the sound file...K dog...!!!

K-Dogg
07-30-2006, 12:44 AM
Damn,
THey look like really loud...got to post a address to the sound file...K dog...!!!

Hey Tanega,
Try this link; it's the only place where I could find a sound file. I kept the OE horn in place and wired in one of the Hella's, so my setup is prob not ideal, but it is louder than stock. :-|

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/supertone_horn.asp

tanega
07-30-2006, 02:45 AM
It will be nice to hear at the next meet!

naluboy
07-30-2006, 07:37 AM
lol@k....damn all you peeps doing mods...been awhile since I did one....still planning on turning my HVAC controls LED blue and red to match my intrument panel...but damn I am so tempted to alter my vertical....thanks to Nalu....thanks dude =) <----sarcasm...cool


Hey man don't mention it... :lol: Just do it! I rode in 808's E and it is noticeably smoother, more forgiving. Maybe if you have a chence you can check out both $220.00 vs. $900.00. i personally would go for the full coil over set up it's smoother riding... :neutral:

elemento
07-30-2006, 06:17 PM
Hey Nalu,
It's something I don't usually worry about, but I am sort of worried about getting recon....I want to try to keep it legal for a change =)....You know if your drop is legal???....

naluboy
07-31-2006, 03:42 AM
My drop is legal just have to provide an alignment slip I'm just worried about my tint on my driver and passenger window. It's darker that 35%Other than that it's all good... 8-)

elemento
07-31-2006, 11:40 AM
My drop is legal just have to provide an alignment slip I'm just worried about my tint on my driver and passenger window. It's darker that 35%Other than that it's all good... 8-)


So you got recon??? Hey didn't you need a spring compressor to remove the OEMs??.....Damn this vertical deal is buzzing in my head I know the symptoms will be alot worse once I check out your ride on the 13th =p

naluboy
07-31-2006, 01:41 PM
No, not yet...but, not sure if i'm going to get recon unless I change my tint. My brother bought a spring compressor he usually helps me do work on my cars he is the talented one with installing stuff not me...8-) Laters

K-Dogg
09-16-2006, 04:46 PM
Aloha Folks,
Rained this AM, so sorta got turned off from going for a bike ride. With nothing better to do, thought I'd finish what I started and took on wiring in the 2nd Hella horn.

Repositioned the 2nd horn away from the stock location & mounted the bracket to the part of the frame where the relay sits. I then cut off the stock connector to the OE horn, spliced in an extra length of wire, and attached a slide connector. Fabricated an additional ground wire, hooked everything up, and tested!

This dual setup seems to have a higher tone, but doesn't have that "dissonant" blare as before, w/the OE and 1 Hella. It's still pretty damn loud, though... :grin:

Before, after, and a short movie...

Oh crap, sorry.... The movie file won't upload :oops:

Okay, seeing if this'll work if anyone's interested... It's loud enough to start the dogs barking :D

javascript:SendLinkByEMail('C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My Pictures\KDogg Pics\2006-09 (Sep)\2006-09 (Sep)\MOV00033.MPG', 'MOV00033')

Nope, no go... Sorry :sad: :sad:

elemento
09-17-2006, 12:06 AM
Cool...We never got to hear it last time...

CK FQ BX
09-17-2006, 04:40 AM
Mine are lower tones 300/375hz. Right in the front like that they are loud as hell the stock horn is still connected to but i moved it so it's facing foward in the lower grill next to the radiator.

I like to scare the **** out of the slutty lookin high school girls that walk the streets in Tucson. I'm probly going to be smited for that someday, but it's so much fun.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/webplayerxvii/DSC02295.jpg

K-Dogg
09-18-2006, 01:34 AM
[QUOTE=CK FQ BX]Mine are lower tones 300/375hz. Right in the front like that they are loud as hell the stock horn is still connected to but i moved it so it's facing foward in the lower grill next to the radiator.

I like to scare the **** out of the slutty lookin high school girls that walk the streets in Tucson. I'm probly going to be smited for that someday, but it's so much fun.

Coolio :cool: At a rated 118db, the Hella's would scare the crap outta anyone, slutty looking high school girls notwithstanding. No wonder your E in the pic looks like it's giving off an evil grin!!! :evil: