well i'm getting a weim pup come this nov. and well the element is a perfect doggy mobile! but just curious if there are any weim owners out there? If so, give me advice please! I've studied and read up on this breed and know its gonna be a difficult task to train, keep dog entertained, etc... but am looking for advice and opinions. Thanks! :D

A guy I used to work with has three of them. He started with a puppy and rescued two adults. If he can take care of three weimers one should be a breeze. Hope it works out well for you.
Mary

getting a female pup. going to pick it out soon but she can't come home until nov. i guess my main issue is that we both work and i know how bad it is to leave a dog (especially this breed) in its crate for a long time. i understand these are high energy dogs who need to run, walk and just get a ton of excersise. I am just worried about the training aspect. a few people told me "good luck, they are hard to train..." a lot of people suggested i bring the pup to doggy daycare once a week for a while. and they say obedience class is not an option, we must go if we know what's good for us!?

i'm very excited but also nervous, i don't want to fail the pup!

Good luck. Weims are a good looking breed. They are smart dogs but maybe a little too smart in that they'll know what they can get away with and how to manipulate you. I had a golden retriever like that once. Anyway, enjoy them as puppies, they grow up fast.

The first dog my wife and I owned was a Weimaraner. Great dog, but only had two speeds...wide open and off. It was like owning a Lab with ADHD. Adopted a German Shephard to keep her company. They were quite a team. Moved to the country and somebody poisoned the Weimaraner, but the Shepard lived to be almost 13 years old.

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so what is your best advice? so bringing the dog to pro training is a must i guess. more money :rolleyes: but i've heard that if you train them from the start they come into the new house you will be better off in the future. but a lot of people tell me you have to be "mean" (not physical) to the dog in training to show them who will be the bosses.

BALD: how did someone poison your dog!? that is rotten!

and

BIGRIG: how did your 1st weim die so young? was it just heredity??? that is sad and very scary. i'm sorry to hear that. oh man. oh and how long did you go to obedience class for?

getting a female pup. going to pick it out soon but she can't come home until nov. i guess my main issue is that we both work and i know how bad it is to leave a dog (especially this breed) in its crate for a long time. i understand these are high energy dogs who need to run, walk and just get a ton of excersise. I am just worried about the training aspect. a few people told me "good luck, they are hard to train..." a lot of people suggested i bring the pup to doggy daycare once a week for a while. and they say obedience class is not an option, we must go if we know what's good for us!?

i'm very excited but also nervous, i don't want to fail the pup!

Uh...I hope you don't have any neighbors near by. All dogs are different, and there really is no blanket statement to describe every Weimie out there. That being said, these dogs do not thrive on being left alone. Translate--many of them will go nuts. They will bark, they will destroy things, ...and I mean EVERYTHING, etc. When they bark, they bark more like hounds than a sporting dog. They bay. You can hear it a block away.

I have lived with a Weimie. They can be really impossible. I hope you think long and very long again, about getting this breed if you both work all day. You will certainly have your work cut out for you. Doggy day care once a week will NOT be enough for this breed. Try doggy day care everyday--esp while they are young. Be sure to factor that cost into your puppy ownership budget.

I am not trying to be negative. I just happen to know several folks who have had similar experiences with this breed. And I am very experienced in dogs--especially sporting dogs, as I have shown, bred, and competed in the field and obedience with dogs for thirty years--15 of those with sporting breeds.

Do most dog breeds have this anxiety issue when they are alone? I have always loved Weims but I know that they have a lot of energy and take a lot of time and attention and considering I am only 22, I would rather not feel like I already have a child. But is this an issue with a lot of other breeds? My wife has a miniature dachshund that used to be crated at night and when he was home alone but now we just leave him out to roam the house and he goes to the top of the steps and frowns at us when we leave but we have never had issues with him destroying anything or making noise. I just figured most dogs behaved themselves when they were alone.

Well, maybe I should look into the lab but i had my heart set on the weim. the 6 breeders i went to all interviewed me yet they never told me i would have a serious problem with this breed. should i discount what they say????? i'd say 2 out of the 6 were not a place i'd buy a weim from. 4 of them were breeding show dogs, hunting dogs, and just pet dogs and they were all so knowlegeable and enthusiastic i got good vibes from them. I guess I should discuss this over with the wife. Maybe that is why i've never seen a weim owner locally... :-(

Do most dog breeds have this anxiety issue when they are alone? I have always loved Weims but I know that they have a lot of energy and take a lot of time and attention and considering I am only 22, I would rather not feel like I already have a child. But is this an issue with a lot of other breeds? My wife has a miniature dachshund that used to be crated at night and when he was home alone but now we just leave him out to roam the house and he goes to the top of the steps and frowns at us when we leave but we have never had issues with him destroying anything or making noise. I just figured most dogs behaved themselves when they were alone.

well my best friend owns a boxer and he told me he didn't train it well and didn't take it to obedience school and he has his hands full today. i don't know anything about that breed and he doesn't know about the weim. My other friend has a Rottie that went to training as a pup and that thing DOES NOT MOVE unless told to. Its scary how trained his dog is. At attention when called and will not move until he says "at ease"! But his homeowner's insurance is SO HIGH!!!!! Had lots of trouble getting it. My other friend owned a choco lab and as sweet as she was, he also said he gave it minimal training and it just barked a lot and jumps up on the dinner table while they eat :shock: he just had a baby last year and he had to give the lab to the shelter. :x

i live in a new house that is built in a new secluded area so there is no one around us now. but there is a house being built next to ours so... by next year this time there probably will be a neighbor. other than that no more houses can be built around us...

well my best friend owns a boxer and he told me he didn't train it well and didn't take it to obedience school and he has his hands full today. i don't know anything about that breed and he doesn't know about the weim. My other friend has a Rottie that went to training as a pup and that thing DOES NOT MOVE unless told to. Its scary how trained his dog is. At attention when called and will not move until he says "at ease"! But his homeowner's insurance is SO HIGH!!!!! Had lots of trouble getting it. My other friend owned a choco lab and as sweet as she was, he also said he gave it minimal training and it just barked a lot and jumps up on the dinner table while they eat :shock: he just had a baby last year and he had to give the lab to the shelter. :x

i live in a new house that is built in a new secluded area so there is no one around us now. but there is a house being built next to ours so... by next year this time there probably will be a neighbor. other than that no more houses can be built around us...

I personally have had experience with a boxer that was absolutely INSANE! My wife and her mom used to dog sit for her friend who had a 1 or 2 year old female boxer and I never wanted to go to their house when this dog was over because it would absolutely freak out all the time just running laps around the house and just dive at you while you were sitting on the couch. I HATED that dog.

I personally have had experience with a boxer that was absolutely INSANE! My wife and her mom used to dog sit for her friend who had a 1 or 2 year old female boxer and I never wanted to go to their house when this dog was over because it would absolutely freak out all the time just running laps around the house and just dive at you while you were sitting on the couch. I HATED that dog.

sounds like its in the breed. he has a male and the thing is a clown but boy o boy does that dog run around the APARTMENT (yeah how smart is this) like a mad dog knocking everything over. he loves his dog but regrets not training it well. he should train it today but he doesn't have enough time he says. that might have been another problem. both him and his wife work full time and he admits he negleted his boxer from time to time. he also did not crate train it and he told me his boxer never has had an accident in the apt. which is hard to believe.

I just spoke with two breeders about the weim and they both stressed training is key. you do that right from the start and we should be fine. one breeder knows of a guy who is a k9 trainer who is contracted by the state police and various local law enforcement. he offers his service at a premium but say that his training works and has been proven for the past 10yrs. they invited us to see how he trains. he has experience with weims, labs, german shep, and rotts. sounds interesting.

BALD: how did someone poison your dog!? that is rotten!....

It was a small, close-knit, somewhat isolated community. You didn't have to keep your dog chained up...no pit bull issues in those days, and neighbors kept an eye out for each other. "Grindle" came home early one Saturday afternoon vomiting succotash. I thought she had gotten into somebody's trash. Our German Shepard had been with her and was fine. It later became apparent it was more serious. Got her to the vet, who told us she had been poisoned. Looked like things were under control and she was going to be okay, but she died at the vets that night.

To give you an idea of the neighborhood, the German Shepard belonged to the family next door, but spent all of her time at our house playing with our Weimaraner. The neighbors finally said why don't you just keep "Lady", she spends all of her time at your house anyhow!

1939

It was a small, close-knit, somewhat isolated community. You didn't have to keep your dog chained up...no pit bull issues in those days, and neighbors kept an eye out for each other. "Grindle" came home early one Saturday afternoon vomiting succotash. I thought she had gotten into somebody's trash. Our German Shepard had been with her and was fine. It later became apparent it was more serious. Got her to the vet, who told us she had been poisoned. Looked like things were under control and she was going to be okay, but she died at the vets that night.

To give you an idea of the neighborhood, the German Shepard belonged to the family next door, but spent all of her time at our house playing with our Weimaraner. The neighbors finally said why don't you just keep "Lady", she spends all of her time at your house anyhow!

1939

wow, that is terrible. why would someone do that!? I guess today a dog must be on a leash and the such with these town/state laws, etc... but still. its like if you lost your dog you would hope someone would return it and not hurt/kill it. scary.

do you have any dogs now?

Exercise, exercise, and more exercise. Any dog is manageable with exercise. It takes work and time, and you have to just accept it and integrate it into your life. If you work all day you have to commit to getting up early and/or going home at lunch and/or walking the dog after work. It's the only way. You will be tired and not want to get up early. You will be tired after work and not want to walk them. I totally understand, but you have to commit to it or you will hate your dog and be miserable. The more you walk the dog the less time you will have to spend lecturing it, cleaning stuff up, etc. It's worth it. I promise.

I don't mean to sound dramatic, but that is the main thing I have learned over 17 years of owning big, hyper dogs. When I first got a dog I was clueless, but I have slowly figured more stuff out. If you are not ready to walk a dog you are not ready to have it. If you do exercise them enough they will be the best thing in the world.

I have always had German Shorthaired Pointers, who are like Weimaraners with a different coat--high strung, prone to separation anxiety, etc. I have one right now, as well as an insane hound/pointer mix of some sort. They are awesome, wonderful, smart, loving dogs and I wouldn't have any other breed, but they do need exercise. When they hit about three years old they slow down a tiny bit and you can get away with exercising them once a day, but until then they truly need to get some real exercise twice a day. Find an off-leash park in your area where they can run like the crazy freaks that they are or where they can wrestle with another crazy dog for 45 minutes. They will be drained and they will be good.

I'm sure professional training is a great idea, too. I have never had my dogs trained professionally mostly due to money so I'm no help there. All I can say is that the barking, whining, running, destroying stuff, etc. disappeared after I committed myself to exercising them.

These breeds want to be with you, too. If you work outside around the house they are a great breed. They will follow you around and just hang out with you. I love my dogs dearly, and they are worth every minute--even on days when I have a headache I do NOT want to put them in the car and drive them to the park.

Hope this helps.

Laurie

It seems so brutal at first but it is important to show that YOU are the ALPHA Male and to do that you must first break the dogs spirit and let them know your the boss.

Now, THATS what daddy likes to hear. Beat the living **** out of the dog so that it will understand that YOU RULE! I seriously hope you don't have kids.

You don't have to break it's spirit, you have to teach it what you expect. Those are quiet different things. A pup will naturally look to you for guidance. If you don't provide it, then the pup goes and finds his own way. That's not always what you want. The answer isn't severe trauma to a dog who has misbehaved, it's prevention of the misbehavior. Exercise is key, as it simply training.

My old rowing coach in college had a weimer, and that dog would jump out of the launch and try to chase the boats while swimming. He was quiet vigorous in all that he did. Fun dog, but I'm glad I didn't have to take him home.

I have a lab and a German Shorthair/lab cross right now. They wear each other out playing all day, so that's nice. Weimers really do need stimulation, and there is nothing better than other dogs to provide that. I'm not suggesting you get two of them, but I am suggesting that you find a playmate for him, either a sitter or a play-date before work each day.

Good luck, no matter what you decide. Weimers are high maintainance, but tons of fun. Please don't buy into the notion that brutalizing a dog is the only way to make it mind. It's just not true. It's actually quite cruel, and in many cases counter productive.

do you have any dogs now?
No dogs now. We travel too much.

Another story about leaving Weimaraners alone...before we lived in the country, we lived at the beach. The house was on a flag lot surrounded by a high grapestake fence. One rainy day while I was at work, my wife went out and intentionally left the kitchen door ajar so the dog could go in and out (that entrance was hidden from the street). The dog took all of the cushions off our brand new couch (our first major purchase as newlyweds) and dragged them outside in the rain. That afternoon, I got a call at work from this hysterically sobbing woman, so distraught it took me a while to understand what she was upset about. We survived and now even laugh about it.

1940

I guess the word "brutal" and the phrase "break the dogs spirit" clued me in that your methods were brutal and damaging to the dog's spirit. I guess I won't make such assumptions in the future.

Sure enough, you are the alpha dog. You don't establish that through brutality. I have a lovely chocolate lab that I have raised from a pup who has never benefited from a beating. Positive re-enforcement tends to be effective for me. To each his own, I guess.

One final thing, though. Please don't call me a ****ing idiot, it makes the moderators mad and then threads get shut down. It's really for your safety.

. . . oh, and the word is torture. T-O-R-T-U-R-E. That's what happens when some brutalizes another living thing, say someone beating a dog or a child, or an Iraqi prisoner. That's torture. (studies say that if you see the word three times you can assimiliate it into your permanent vocabulary, so there you go . . . )

Torcher is one who uses torches. Totally different.

bigrig, never break a living spirit-that is cruelty of the worst kiind and shows a total lack of self-esteem on your part. the need to dominate anyone or anything is just plain wrong. kindness and gentleness are the traits of a real man.

Gee... thanks professor, my error...Now go f*ck yourself!
I simply do no appreciate you quoting one line from my post and assuming I mistreat my dog in anyway. As stated in my earlier post Oz was a VERY difficult, VERY destructive, VERY aggressive puppy and now he is as gentle as a lamb so....I guess I did something right whether it meets your f*cking approval or not! I don't recall asking!
Wow guys...Where is this thread going????:rolleyes:
I can help with training Q & A if you have any?8)

P.S. Peace to the EOC!!!!!:)

Um, yeah, like I said, don't call names or else they may shut this thing down.

It's clear that many different philosophies are represented here. There is no need for the rage. You disagree with me, and your dog seems well behaved, so good for you.

My, unabused, dogs are also happy, so good for me and them both.

You introduced the word "brutality", not me, fella.

If the foo chits, scare it.

bigrig, can you quit with the demeaning name calling? to me it is just an indication that you treat everybody and everything pretty badly.

What could even SEEM brutal about a tug on a collar? I think you are back-pedaling, or else you just make no sense. Which is it? Were you REALLY talking about a tug on a collar when you made that statement? Somehow I doubt it. It just makes no sense. It seems to me that you doth protest too much. If I were truly wrong, a rational person would say, "Screw you, you are wrong." and leave it at that. I think I hit a nerve with you.

Nice sig at the bottom of your last post. Give yourself credit, you aren't stupid, just cruel.

You still haven't explained what seemed brutal about a tug on a collar. Why not? Something there you don't want to get into, perhaps? You are an awfully strange and defensive man for someone who is so innocent of wrong doing. Very strange, indeed.

Oz was a rotten puppy! I couldn't stand him! As a last ditch effort we brought him to K9 Performance in North Reading MA.
The change in him was instantaneas from just his orientation visit so we began weekly classes and like I said earlier Oz loved the Brain stimulation although it was tough watching someone else giving Oz corrections...It seems so brutal at first but it is important to show that YOU are the ALPHA Male and to do that you must first break the dogs spirit and let them know your the boss. When that day came with Oz I started to get angry and was like what the f*ck are you doing to my baby! I wanted to grab him and go running out of there but that would have been a mistake because that was the turning point and now he is the most wonderful companion.
Oz is our second Weim .. our first died to young due to kidney issues and an embolism in his lungs we had to put him down, May have been the worst day of my life but I'm so glad I was there holding him and helping him through the ordeal. I know it comforted him to have me there with him to the end.
But be warned, That is not for everybody, having something you love die in your arms is something that stays with you forever.
I'm not trying to dampen your spirits Oz is a ton of fun and makes me laugh real belly laughs every single day. He's like a goofy buddy with his own unique personality but the sad truth is dogs don't live as long as we do and I do think that eveyone should consider that before taking the leap into pet ownwership.


this is where you mention breaking the dog's spirit.

Oz was a rotten puppy! I couldn't stand him! As a last ditch effort we brought him to K9 Performance in North Reading MA.
The change in him was instantaneas from just his orientation visit so we began weekly classes and like I said earlier Oz loved the Brain stimulation although it was tough watching someone else giving Oz corrections...It seems so brutal at first but it is important to show that YOU are the ALPHA Male and to do that you must first break the dogs spirit and let them know your the boss. When that day came with Oz I started to get angry and was like what the f*ck are you doing to my baby! I wanted to grab him and go running out of there but that would have been a mistake because that was the turning point and now he is the most wonderful companion.
Oz is our second Weim .. our first died to young due to kidney issues and an embolism in his lungs we had to put him down, May have been the worst day of my life but I'm so glad I was there holding him and helping him through the ordeal. I know it comforted him to have me there with him to the end.
But be warned, That is not for everybody, having something you love die in your arms is something that stays with you forever.
I'm not trying to dampen your spirits Oz is a ton of fun and makes me laugh real belly laughs every single day. He's like a goofy buddy with his own unique personality but the sad truth is dogs don't live as long as we do and I do think that eveyone should consider that before taking the leap into pet ownwership.

These are your words and for the record I have four dogs one of whom was a real terror. I would never break anyone's spirit.

He knows. He knows perfectly well.

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imetag5: Have you had dogs before? The Weimaraner is NOT the ideal first dog, especially for a "stay at home alone dog". I've never had one, but as a kid the neighbors did. Hunter guy. Had two or three. Escape artists. Constant into everything.

I'd just suggest you really rethink this breed, There are hundreds of nice breeds and even mixed breeds out there. If you are asking about weimies on a car club forum......I doubt your ready for one.:cool:

Oh, bye the bye, we've had Samoyed's, Huskies, Labs, Pit Bulls (I HATE Terriers) and mixed breed big dogs for twentyfive years. I'm not ready for a Wimie or a German Short Hair.:)

EDIT: Even the owners of these breeds sometimes can't be controlled. LOL

BACK ON THREAD:mad:
imetag5: Have you had dogs before? The Weimaraner is NOT the ideal first dog, especially for a "stay at home alone dog". I've never had one, but as a kid the neighbors did. Hunter guy. Had two or three. Escape artists. Constant into everything.

I'd just suggest you really rethink this breed, There are hundreds of nice breeds and even mixed breeds out there. If you are asking about weimies on a car club forum......I doubt your ready for one.:cool:

Oh, bye the bye, we've had Samoyed's, Huskies, Labs, Pit Bulls (I HATE Terriers) and mixed breed big dogs for twentyfive years. I'm not ready for a Wimie or a German Short Hair.:)

EDIT: Even the owners of these breeds sometimes can't be controlled. LOL
Irv????? What???? "I HATE Terriers" ???:-o blaspheme!!!:rolleyes:

i have two rescued cairn terriers-the sweetest dogs in the world. i think irv would love them.:)

Oh crap, I try to calm one storm and start another.:-(

My experience with Terriers is that they are always the star, always on the move, always out smarting me,.....the pit bull we had we kept for my stepdaughter for 5 months....my back yard looked like a artillery test field...giant holes everywhere.:D

I like QUIET pets.... But that's just me.:lol:

bigrig,
look, there are a lot of animal lovers on this forum. if you don't want to be seen as brutal and out to break an animal's spirit, it might be good to use different language to describe things. calling people f**king morons and talking about animals and people in demeaning ways only creates the impression that you are harsh. your dog looks healthy and well-fed. i don't know how he acts around you, but you've given a pretty negative picture of yourself in your posts. perhaps gentler language would help negate that. just a thought.

i did read the whole thread. it isn't the word f**king that i mind, it is the attachment of the words moron or ******* after it that bugs me. i use the word f**king myself, but don't call people demeaning names indicating that i think that they know nothing. I have met many dog trainers-some are good, some are bad. the best that i've met are able to train dogs without choke collars, electronic shock devices, or screaming.

i did read the whole thread. it isn't the word f**king that i mind, it is the attachment of the words moron or ******* after it that bugs me. i use the word f**king myself, but don't call people demeaning names indicating that i think that they know nothing. I have met many dog trainers-some are good, some are bad. the best that i've met are able to train dogs without choke collars, electronic shock devices, or screaming.
Now now now.... time to cut the SH1T! Stop already with the righteous talk.:neutral: BIGRIG has stated his point as have you...:cool: Let's move along now nothing to see here.....:razz:

A Weimaraner can be a handful. If you want a big dog, have you looked at a Rhodesian Ridgeback? Needs exercise like any dog, but really mellow...until they spot a squirrel.

1941

well back on track ...

i seriously have my heart set on the weim and i have been reading books, searching online, etc... researching and feel that we both are willing to make the sacrifice for a weim.

how is a lab compared to a weim in regards to maintence.

my wife wanted a lab but i didn't. i have my heart set on the weim. i've talked to 6 breeders and i know they are "trying to make a sale" but all of them have told me that if i seek pro training I will be in better shape. A few breeders asked me questions about our lifestyle. I told them we work 9hrs M-F and all of them have said we need to have someone come to our house to take the pup out to her bathroom spot at least two times a day before we get home. they said female has a better temperment. none of them refused us but again i know they are trying to sell but the breeder we are going with has a very impressive kennel and was soooooooo knowlegable and friendly with tons of literature for us to study, etc...

the breeder we picked i met the mother/father 3 times and both were so tame. Only once was the father barking jumping but the second the woman gave a command the dog stopped in its tracks (froze). both are show dogs.

anyway yes this is my first dog (wife has grown up with labs). so are you saying we probably will not be able to control the weim? is that the big issue?

you guys are scaring me from owning any dog :-( nah! :D

I think people are trying to help, but it does all sound overwhelming. It's just human nature to try to prevent other people from making mistakes you did, but it never works. Get the Weimi! You will love it with all your heart, and you will have so much fun. They are beautiful dogs, and you will love watching it run. If it ever has to be at the vet overnight you will be lonely and wonder how you lived without them before.

Get a bigger memory card for your digital camera, because they are the cutest puppies in the world--you just wanna eat 'em!

Dogs are always going to do something--eat your shoes, your iPod, your dinner on the counter, etc. Those are the stories you will tell later--and they will be funny by then.

Just love it and exercise it and you will be set. We always call our puppies "swevil" for the first year--because they are so sweet...but so evil! :D

Post pictures as soon as you get it!

Laurie

If you really think the breeder is just trying to make the sale, I would select a different breeder. I really doubt a responsible breeder would just be trying to make the sale. Breeders love their pups. If you think the breeder is reputable, I would trust him or her. If you don't trust the breeder, don't accept his or her advice or his or her dog.

You can make the weim work, but it will take sacrifice on your part. You are the human, you have to be the reasonable and responsible one.

Good luck.

2 out of the 6 felt like all they cared about was money. 3 of the breeders were fine but some of the places were um very dirty and the parent dogs to me acted unruly. And the breeder we picked the lady was very kind, informative, serious, and very enthusiastic. Her set up was better than the others so we decided to go with them. gave us a copy of the pedigree, ppw, etc...

i'll keep you guys updated, keep the comments comin

Here is my Weim George a few months before he passed on.....he was 8 years old in the pics......great old boy.... we miss him very much...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTMxNjUwNzZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTMxNjUwODZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTMxNjUwOTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

good luck..... Pat

Wow, such a nice lookin' dog. any advice? sorry to hear that... :-( 8yrs old seems so young!

My 2 cents.........get the puppy and enjoy. Join the puppy classes and then go on to novice obedience both you and your dog with enjoy it. Most training clubs will not take puppies under 6 months but you might be able to find a club that does the 3-6 months puppies if they have several puppies to enroll. Is a fun relaxed class that will help with nail clipping, chewing, house breaking, and working on the basics of handling the puppy for issues down the road. I always try to get my puppies into these classes as I have found it lays down a good foundation for future obedience.
Sounds like you have found a good breeder with quality dogs so I think you will do well. Also most breeders will help you address any problems you might have with your dog. They want you both happy.:)
Good luck. MJ

Irv????? What???? "I HATE Terriers" ???:-o blaspheme!!!:rolleyes:
Labs are overrated. OK dogs but....we will never get another...
"Here is our 115pd lab with my American Pit Bull..."



Labs overrated? Whatsthematterwithyou? Ahhh, what the he**. The choice of a dog breed is a personal preference.8-)

(but everyone knows that Pit Bulls are for people with little bitty....):lol:

Labs are overrated. OK dogs but....we will never get another...
"Here is our 115pd lab with my American Pit Bull..."



Labs overrated? Whatsthematterwithyou? Ahhh, what the he**. The choice of a dog breed is a personal preference.8-)

(but everyone knows that Pit Bulls are for people with little bitty....):lol:
:lol: My Mean Vicious American Pit Bull loved my daughter and she him...:shock:
She used to play on top of/on him daily.... It's all in the human not the breed as far as that stereotype goes...:cool:

Labs are nice....:) with a big period.:)

:lol: My Mean Vicious American Pit Bull loved my daughter and she him...:shock:
She used to play on top of/on him daily.... It's all in the human not the breed as far as that stereotype goes...:cool:

Labs are nice....:) with a big period.:)
:) I know, just busting you a bit. Red Dog was a super dog with the Grandkids but Little Bear (a lab huskie mix) was the best dog we ever had.

Have a good weekend camping!:D

i was told by the breeder they would live at least 10yrs. Ugh i don't want to think about that.

i would get a lab but everyone has one :wink: i guess i want a weim because of its high loyalty and intel. high energy doesn't scare me but the dog being hyper and unruly does. its all in the training...

Growing up we always had German Shepard's. My Mom still has at least 2 at a time, She gets them from rescue shelters. The are already adults but with some TLC the become as loyal as if you had them from puppies.
I would have to say that the loyalty crown goes to the Shepard, Hands Down!

i do like Gsheps but the wife hates them with a passion. her father was attacked by one way back in the day so maybe that is why :confused: but i seriously would love to have a shep puppy.

oh and i was talking to a co-worker who owns an irish setter. he told me the weim is nothing compared to the probs they had with their irish setter. i guess they almost gave it to a shelter because of how difficult it was to train him. they finally did a last resort and sent him to boot camp and were amazed at how much the dog changed after. but i don't know how comfortable i would be leaving my dog at a training place for 7 days straight alone with three police dog trainers. but he said a guy on his street owns a female weim and he told me the owner loves her and said she has been nothing but golden to them. no probs what so ever even when they are at work for 8 hrs.

i just told my only neighbor that they will be hearing barking soon and they just smiled. the guy said he had a great dane (3yrs old) last year but someone stole him!!!! geez. they are the only house in our neighborhood. i guess his wife wants a Dachshund but he doesn't! they are still building other houses on the street but ours is on the way top of the hill. a lot of open land but lots of construction going on. hopfully our new weim will be happy...

Our weim developed a brain tumor or growth that caused the brain to swell & press to his skull.....he would become dizzy or clumbsy on a good day, other days he would become highly aggressive/attack & have no patience or listen to commands.......hardest decision to ever make......we miss him soo much....


my wife wasn't able to handle another weim around the house she missed him so much....so I surprised her on day with a set of German Short Haired Pointers....basically the same dog physically but with different markings...... definatly not as high strung as our weim but just as intelligent & loving.... everyday I see my weim george in the eyes of my pups.....so much so I named our male Otto George. Together with his sister Elsa they make quite the team........... Pat

Our weim developed a brain tumor or growth that caused the brain to swell & press to his skull.....he would become dizzy or clumbsy on a good day, other days he would become highly aggressive/attack & have no patience or listen to commands.......hardest decision to ever make......we miss him soo much....


my wife wasn't able to handle another weim around the house she missed him so much....so I surprised her on day with a set of German Short Haired Pointers....basically the same dog physically but with different markings...... definatly not as high strung as our weim but just as intelligent & loving.... everyday I see my weim george in the eyes of my pups.....so much so I named our male Otto George. Together with his sister Elsa they make quite the team........... Pat

wow brain tumor. man i am so sorry. those pics of your weim are nice. he looked like such a "noble" dog. I'm not familar with the german short hairs. well sounds like all is good again. but it sounds like you guys were extreamly attached to George. That's nice. Poor guy. :sad:

If you like an irish setter, but don't want to deal with the idiocy, try an Irish Red Setter. It's basically a field variety of the Irish setter, but they are a little smaller and a lot smarter. AKC doesn't recognize them as a distict breed, but a breeder of setters should would know the difference. My folks have one. He is a handful, but he's not a stupid dog at all. Personally, he's not my type of dog, but I like him.

well guys after all this talk we are not getting a weim. After a visit with the breeder he sat us down and told us he feels we should not take a weim. He basically profiled us and said its still up to us but he'd hate to have to hear a year down the road we had to return her to him because we couldn't handle her. He basically explained that the weim is a baby in a dog's body and that you have to spend time with them and they are stubborn, manipulative, hyperactive at times, and hard to train. he said not a good first dog. So he led us to his labs.

Well we picked out a choco female english lab that we loved. a lot more mellow even as a pup and well I guess i feel better. he said they are easy to train, get along with everyone, smart, and less hyper than the weim might be.

so i guess you guys we correct about the weim. i swear, i will own a weim one day! thanks again guys for all the comments. I feel we made a wise decision with switching breeds.

well guys after all this talk we are not getting a weim. After a visit with the breeder he sat us down and told us he feels we should not take a weim. He basically profiled us and said its still up to us but he'd hate to have to hear a year down the road we had to return her to him because we couldn't handle her. He basically explained that the weim is a baby in a dog's body and that you have to spend time with them and they are stubborn, manipulative, hyperactive at times, and hard to train. he said not a good first dog. So he led us to his labs.

Well we picked out a choco female english lab that we loved. a lot more mellow even as a pup and well I guess i feel better. he said they are easy to train, get along with everyone, smart, and less hyper than the weim might be.

so i guess you guys we correct about the weim. i swear, i will own a weim one day! thanks again guys for all the comments. I feel we made a wise decision with switching breeds.

A good (and wise) decision! The breeder is giving you the right scoop and you will be happier in the long run.

Good luck with your new pooch!:D

Congratulations on your new pooch. What is her name?MJ

Have fun!

It's very true that you just get better at being a dog owner the more you do it. Maybe after the lab you can get ready for a Weim. You sound very conscientious, and you will be a great dog owner. That puppy is very lucky.

Why didn't you just explain to the breeder that you had a fool-proof method of ensuring good behavior: A steady diet of brutality until it's spirit is broken.

It works, or so I have heard.:evil:

Why didn't you just explain to the breeder that you had a fool-proof method of ensuring good behavior: A steady diet of brutality until it's spirit is broken.

It works, or so I have heard.:evil:

very witty-i hope that you know who reads it.

That depends on whether anyone is there to read it to him and type for him. Neanderthals aren't known to have had any knowledge of any type of writing system.

I am very glad to read that your breeder helped you make a very wise decision. If we had more breeders like that one, there would be a lot less dogs in pounds and rescue.
You might want to look into rescue for an older weim that needs his forever home. that way you are past the puppy stage and the terrible two's.

I have australian cattle dogs and they need lots of work time each day. Remember that "work" time can be anything from physical work "ie ball, frisbee, herding, LONG runs, etc" to metal work "ie tricks, obedience, etc" So on rainy days, you can still tire out your dogs. Teach them tricks, like "put away your toys, find a certain toy, say your prayers, army crawl, etc." on the sunny days you can do outside excercises. that way you wont have a dog that is bouncing off the walls on days they cant spend lots of time outside.


Good luck with your new puppy and don't forget to post pictures

no name for the female choco lab. any suggestions????

Sadie comes to mind but i'd like to hear suggestions.

Yeah i'm glad we made the switch. I was at petsmart last weekend and I saw an owner with a weim and dear lord he could not control the dog and it was knocking all this stuff over and it hit some guy in the store. he finally just DRAGGED the poor weim out the door and back into his FJ cruiser! and he came back into the store apologizing. whoa is a lab like that? i understand any pup will be hyper and destructive but that weim got kinda scary tearing the store apart!

I was at an Orvis store this past weekend and a girl had a Vizsla. Looks like a golden weim! never heard of them and she told me its a lot tamer than a weim.

no name for the female choco lab. any suggestions????

Sadie comes to mind but i'd like to hear suggestions.

Yeah i'm glad we made the switch. I was at petsmart last weekend and I saw an owner with a weim and dear lord he could not control the dog and it was knocking all this stuff over and it hit some guy in the store. he finally just DRAGGED the poor weim out the door and back into his FJ cruiser! and he came back into the store apologizing. whoa is a lab like that? i understand any pup will be hyper and destructive but that weim got kinda scary tearing the store apart!

I was at an Orvis store this past weekend and a girl had a Vizsla. Looks like a golden weim! never heard of them and she told me its a lot tamer than a weim.


what is her personality like? might give you ideas for a name.

no name for the female choco lab. any suggestions????

Sadie comes to mind but i'd like to hear suggestions.

Yeah i'm glad we made the switch. I was at petsmart last weekend and I saw an owner with a weim and dear lord he could not control the dog and it was knocking all this stuff over and it hit some guy in the store. he finally just DRAGGED the poor weim out the door and back into his FJ cruiser! and he came back into the store apologizing. whoa is a lab like that? i understand any pup will be hyper and destructive but that weim got kinda scary tearing the store apart!

I was at an Orvis store this past weekend and a girl had a Vizsla. Looks like a golden weim! never heard of them and she told me its a lot tamer than a weim.



A Lab is IMHO almost never like that. Sure Little Bear as a puppy chewed up my eye-glasses and if left alone too long they can get into trouble. But for the most part they want SO much to please you that it can get annoying.

Mrs. IRV came back yesterday from a eight day trip. The 110 # Princess (yes all our dogs get fat from lack of exercise) insisted on being a lap dog wedging between Mrs. IRV and the grandchildren.

A Lab is a great choice for a first time dog owner and a name will come easy once you get to know your pup. You'll love her and she'll answer to any name you come up with.:)

EDIT: I just reread most of the sane parts of this Thread and thought about the Pro training of your pup. With a Lab (and many other breeds) there really is no need for this expense. A local puppy training class might be useful if you have problems (I don't for see that) but a good "Dogs for Idiots" book is all you'll need.

Here is some names that come to mind.
A. Hershey

b. Mocha

c. Java

d. Belle


:) :) :) :) MJ

thanks IRV for your comments.

As for names. we thought of:

Kona

Haley

Sadie

so far. The only thing i can think of is she is the smallest of the litter yet was still fistey. We don't actually get to bring her home until 10/28.

So no need to bring her too boot camp :D labs do not need that type of training. Hopfully my father in-law can help us out as he has trained many labs with ease. Can't wait but know its a life changing step!

My wife has a Chochlate Long-Haired Mini Dachshund and she named him CoCo. :D

The cocoa theme for chocolate labs is so common, though. I've known chocolate labs named Hershey, Coco, Mocha, Java, Nestle...

My tendency is to go with actor/movie names. How about Murphy, Jackie or Charlie? (Brown, get it? Ha ha? No?)

zoe? :grin:

we like that name and yeah the choco thing is overdone.

Just wanted to say that a good place to begin when researching breed temperament/characteristics for any breed is www.akc.org. Find the breed you are interested in, and that will lead you to the parent club web site. For Weimaraners (I know you aren't getting one anymore, but just as an example), you will find the following on the breed club page:

http://www.weimclubamerica.org/auntie/index.html

This info will help you decide if this breed is right for you. Again, I know you're not getting a Weimaraner, but anyone can do this for any breed. The breed parent clubs are a great source of information and good contacts. They care about their breed and want to make sure you make a good choice. They can also help you find a responsible breeder if it is determined their breed is the right one for you. They are also a great source for rescues.

I do Italian Greyhound rescue, so I'm in the trenches every day trying to help people determine if this breed is the right one for them.

Our little chocolate is named Keisha, after a particularly bitchy check-out girl at the local wal-mart. It's rude, but I think it's funny.

So imetalg5 how is it going with your new pup?

:oops:

wow, its tough, its really really tough. the crate training is not going so well as she goes in the crate all the time but i think she is young at 11wks old so... but its frustrating, tiring (up at all hours of the night), upsetting, nerveracking, annoying, heh. its more than i bargined for but i have to press on!!!!!

i am so glad I didn't get the weim. my friend adopted a chessie and he is actually thinking of taking her back. i told him not to get a dog because of his situation. and plus aint a chessie a huntin' dog that needs work!? not stuck in a condo!!!!!

Hi imetalg5, after about two years, how is your experience with your lab? I'm new to this forum and have a female Weim named Fergie. She is 1 year and a half now. I had a boxer before that and yes, a Weimaraner is not like most dogs. They are quite different to train and handle. Weims are late bloomers, they need to stay pups for the longest time they can. They need to be and feel part of the family and as important as anyone in it too. Can't handle a Weim too hard or too ferm or else, you will loose their cooperation. You have to be very gentle with that bread. That is the secret and you will get results that way. You also have to be very playfull eith them as you train them. They are babies for a very long time even if they are full grown. I work 12hour shift 3 times per week and keep her in a K9 in my garage with light and music. She does pee in the corner next to the drain but I have no other choice. When I get home, I take her running next to my bicycle or go to the dog park. On the day's off, she likes the woods, the fields or retrieving in a lake. She seems pretty happy. That's the way I found to live together.

Yes a Weim is a different lifestyle and it's a big contract of 10 to 12 years. A lot of them ends up in rescue centers and that is very sad. I like many different dogs for different reasons and you have to choose the dog that fit's you and your lifestyle and not for the looks. For small dogs, I like the Dachshund and for big ones, the Rhodesian Ridgeback, the Cesky Fousek, German shorthair, boxers and Weims.

So no matter the dog you have, they all have a big heart and it's important to have fun with them! ;-)

Cheers!

I'm a little late getting in on this, but here's my two cents. My brother and sister-in-law own a Wiem- and their biggest complaints are about his neediness, his farts and his dog breath. :) the dog is about 6 years old now, maybe 7, and he trained very quickly as a puppy. He does do a lot of running around and they had a big enough place at the school my brother taught at to just let him run it off. He trained very quickly and is very smart. My brother now has a 3 year old and the dog is very good with my nephew and the two never had any major problems, except that Carson tried to ride him a couple times, but the dog just stands there and is very patient. Like I said, the biggest issue is that when you sit on the couch to eat, because of the dog's height his face is right in yours, and there's nothing like dog breath and pizza.