goldd14 07-01-2007, 08:06 PM Hey whats up guys,
Its been a while since I've posted anything, being busy with my job and all. Anyways, I've just found these 2 awesome products, thanks to my local Kragen Auto Parts store. The first, the 3M Rubbing Compound, almost completely removed all the water spots and soap film from my windows, and its so easy to use too. It's quite expensive, 10 dollars for a fairly small bottle, but works wonders. It also polishes my windows to a shine, and also because I have all tinted windows, this makes it look extra good. The second product, the Turtle ICE Liquid Polish, has got to be the best thing to happen to cars right after the quick wash from Mr. Clean. It literally took me 30 to put on a double layer of wax, and it looks great!!! It was so easy to use, just lay on the wax with the included applicator, let it settle to a haze for 3-5 minutes, wipe it off, and lightly buff it until desired. Seriously, couldnt get easier. Does anyone else have any suggestion for a different window polish? If yes, post it here, thanks.
Kateri 07-03-2007, 08:19 PM Cool!!!!
I'm going to try this. I hate water spots on my windows.
Thanks for the tip.
:cool:
I did the same routine only using 3M Imperial Hand Glaze after washing the car in Dawn to remove the wax. Then followed up with ICE and the results were great. Got rid of all the water spots from my previous cleaning.
goldd14 07-04-2007, 02:13 AM I did the same routine only using 3M Imperial Hand Glaze after washing the car in Dawn to remove the wax. Then followed up with ICE and the results were great. Got rid of all the water spots from my previous cleaning.
what's 3M Imperial Hand Glaze and do you have to use a strong soap to remove wax during a wash? does a regular wash down work instead?
what's 3M Imperial Hand Glaze and do you have to use a strong soap to remove wax during a wash? does a regular wash down work instead?
Use Dawn regular dish soap to wash the car for wax removal. Then use 3M IHG (below) to shine and glossify the paint, remove fine scratches, oxidation, water spots, etc. Then wax. I like it because it is meant to be applied and buffed by hand. The picture below is the packaging for the paint and bodyshop and detailing trade, it also comes in a retail package. I got mine from an automotive paint store.
Product description: The best hand applied, superfine, liquid glaze with high filling characteristics to clean, remove minor swirl marks, polish and renew the "wet look" shine to paint prior to waxing. It removes oxidized pigments, acid rain marks, fine scratches and swirl marks. Apply a small amount to a soft, 100% cotton flannel cloth, foam applicator pad or terry cloth covered foam applicator pad. Work into the paint using moderate pressure in a linear motion, until all that remains is a slight haze, then buff off with a soft, 100% cotton flannel cloth. May be used as a carrier for P21S Multi-Surface Finish Restorer Polish to polish out deeper scratches. Does not contain silicone and is formulated to work on all colors. Use at least twice a year (spring/fall) to refresh the paint and follow immediately with a coat of quality wax. (Our favorite glaze to remove minor swirl marks.) from CarCareOnline (http://www.carcareonline.com/detail.asp?product_id=10103)
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goldd14 07-06-2007, 02:06 AM Use Dawn regular dish soap to wash the car for wax removal. Then use 3M IHG (below) to shine and glossify the paint, remove fine scratches, oxidation, water spots, etc. Then wax. I like it because it is meant to be applied and buffed by hand. The picture below is the packaging for the paint and bodyshop and detailing trade, it also comes in a retail package. I got mine from an automotive paint store.
Product description: The best hand applied, superfine, liquid glaze with high filling characteristics to clean, remove minor swirl marks, polish and renew the "wet look" shine to paint prior to waxing. It removes oxidized pigments, acid rain marks, fine scratches and swirl marks. Apply a small amount to a soft, 100% cotton flannel cloth, foam applicator pad or terry cloth covered foam applicator pad. Work into the paint using moderate pressure in a linear motion, until all that remains is a slight haze, then buff off with a soft, 100% cotton flannel cloth. May be used as a carrier for P21S Multi-Surface Finish Restorer Polish to polish out deeper scratches. Does not contain silicone and is formulated to work on all colors. Use at least twice a year (spring/fall) to refresh the paint and follow immediately with a coat of quality wax. (Our favorite glaze to remove minor swirl marks.) from CarCareOnline (http://www.carcareonline.com/detail.asp?product_id=10103)
http://www.handsontools.com/image_manager/attributes/image/image_3/3806_5322_full.jpg
thanks a lot man that really helped. i think im gonna go out to kragen tomorrow and buy a bottle
abigtroutt 07-06-2007, 07:17 AM Turtle Ice woks great! Goes on easy and buffs up nice and easy also! I dont know how long the wax will last in the Florida sun?? Also I purchased a product called Back to Black for the gray panels. My panels are taking a beating from the sun and starting to fade. I work all weekend so next week I'll do the Back in Black and I'll let you know how it works.
LMntGuy1982 07-06-2007, 11:16 AM The best I've found is mother's wax. It comes in a can and is more of a paste but the shine is unbelievable. My neighbor came over to borrow my drill and about fell over when he saw how shiny it made my finish. And i hadn't waxed the car in about 2 years!!
Kateri 07-06-2007, 05:28 PM I really like Mother's Cleaner-Wax.
But this morning I went and got some 3m rubbing compound to get rid of the water spots on my window and I also got some of that new Turtle Wax Ice Liquid Wax stuff.
Can't wait to try both of those out.
:cool:
DorchesterBoy 07-06-2007, 07:31 PM I really like Mother's Cleaner-Wax.
But this morning I went and got some 3m rubbing compound to get rid of the water spots on my window and I also got some of that new Turtle Wax Ice Liquid Wax stuff.
Can't wait to try both of those out.
:cool:
TurtleWax Ice works pretty good. :cool:
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Kateri 07-06-2007, 08:19 PM TurtleWax Ice works pretty good. :cool:
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I hope my NBP E looks as good your Root Beer when I'm done!!!
Keep in mind, though, that rubbing compound and wax, are different products with different purposes. The performance of any wax can be enhanced by periodic washing to remove the wax, open the paint up, and give it a good rubbing compound treatment, then protecting that shine with a waxing. The rubbing compound in the original post is somewhat more abrasive than the hand glaze I've been using on my Mustang and now the E. It is really more for swirls, small scratches, etc. The hand glaze is even finer and really is a paint glossifier. Combined with ICE my car has stayed cleaner-looking longer than when I was just washing and waxing it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1107/744382166_8c3c538e99_b.jpg
Kateri 07-06-2007, 09:53 PM Keep in mind, though, that rubbing compound and wax, are different products with different purposes. The performance of any wax can be enhanced by periodic washing to remove the wax, open the paint up, and give it a good rubbing compound treatment, then protecting that shine with a waxing. The rubbing compound in the original post is somewhat more abrasive than the hand glaze I've been using on my Mustang and now the E. It is really more for swirls, small scratches, etc. The hand glaze is even finer and really is a paint glossifier. Combined with ICE my car has stayed cleaner-looking longer than when I was just washing and waxing it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1107/744382166_8c3c538e99_b.jpg
Thanks for the reminder however just I'm using the rubbing compound to get the water spots off of the windows only -- (like goldd14 did).
I use a claybar and/or wax for the rest of the car.
I'm looking forward though to see how ICE works.
It would make it so easier to not have to worry about the white residue left on various plastic/rubber items.
DorchesterBoy 07-06-2007, 10:38 PM Ere,
Your NBP looks so fine. Gotta show that one to my GF, she is almost sold on one.
dparrothead1 07-07-2007, 06:38 AM Keep in mind, though, that rubbing compound and wax, are different products with different purposes. The performance of any wax can be enhanced by periodic washing to remove the wax, open the paint up, and give it a good rubbing compound treatment, then protecting that shine with a waxing. The rubbing compound in the original post is somewhat more abrasive than the hand glaze I've been using on my Mustang and now the E. It is really more for swirls, small scratches, etc. The hand glaze is even finer and really is a paint glossifier. Combined with ICE my car has stayed cleaner-looking longer than when I was just washing and waxing it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1107/744382166_8c3c538e99_b.jpg
Wow, that shine is so good that you can't even see the guy taking the picture,,,,,all you can see is his shoes!!!!!!!
Thanks for the reminder however just I'm using the rubbing compound to get the water spots off of the windows only -- (like goldd14 did).
I use a claybar and/or wax for the rest of the car.
I'm looking forward though to see how ICE works.
It would make it so easier to not have to worry about the white residue left on various plastic/rubber items.
Good points. I haven't delved into clay bar yet, though since I have to park this outside at night/weekends under a tree, between the sap and bird poop, a clay bar is in its future. Re. the white residue, its near absence under the Dawn/3M IHG/ICE regimen was one of the first benefits I noticed. The Dawn at full strenght took the small smudges of paste wax right off the black panels.
Wow, that shine is so good that you can't even see the guy taking the picture,,,,,all you can see is his shoes!!!!!!!
:D
so to get that shine i'm seeing on the NBP E is 3 steps?
dawn wash
3M imperial hand glaze
and then ur prefered wax brand
if that's correct i'll have to try that out when i give my E its first wash
That's the basic protocol, I'll add a few details: if the water from your tap is hard or prone to leave spots, you can help avoid this by washing and drying one section of the car at a time, and using the water straight from the hose in a thick stream, not in a spray. I help remove the water using a Californina Water Blade (http://www.californiacardusters.com/12waterblade.html) and Meguier's drying towel. On the next steps, use a good circular automotive sponge to apply the IHG, then two good quality microfiber cloths to remove/buff (fresh ones for both IHG and ICE).
Note: don't ever use a plain bath or hand towel for buffing - if it has polyester content the fibers will scratch the paint. Extra good quality 100% cotton towels can be used, but I've gone in favor of Meguier's microfiber cloths or the like.
One thing I forgot to mention about the 3M IHG: it does not affect or leave any residue on the plastic cladding :) :)
i gave my e her first wash yesterday sans the ihg step...
anyone know where I can buy this?
and with the turtle ice wax (mind you this is my first time ever waxing a car) am i ok with the applicator that was included in the box?
i know u said not to use cotton/poly blend cloths but that's what was included with the turtle ice wax.
DorchesterBoy 07-09-2007, 05:34 PM i gave my e her first wash yesterday sans the ihg step...
anyone know where I can buy this?
and with the turtle ice wax (mind you this is my first time ever waxing a car) am i ok with the applicator that was included in the box?
i know u said not to use cotton/poly blend cloths but that's what was included with the turtle ice wax.
Yes. Use the applicator that comes with the product. So far I have put 4 coats of TW Ice on and the depth of shine is very nice. Just make sure that you use microfiber cloths to wipe and buff the wax after it dries (I wait about 10 minutes per section of the car).
i gave my e her first wash yesterday sans the ihg step...
anyone know where I can buy this?
and with the turtle ice wax (mind you this is my first time ever waxing a car) am i ok with the applicator that was included in the box?
i know u said not to use cotton/poly blend cloths but that's what was included with the turtle ice wax.
You can buy it from the source in post No. 5 (http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=447519&postcount=5), above, or from Amazon.Com. Re. the cotton/poly blend towels - I believe the towel that comes with ICE is microfiber, which is fine to use. I meant don't use any old bath or handtowel without checking first.
macmini05 09-29-2007, 04:11 PM Turtlewax ICE is junk. I used Meguiars wax first. Bought this to apply over it. Put it on the hood and roof first. After 5-10 min, I went to remove it by buffing it and it wasn't easy as it sounds on the bottle. Took longer to remove than any other wax I have ever used.
This stuff is basically Armor-all in a bottle. I have used Meguiars, Rain Dance, Nu Finish and Blu Poly over the years and this would be at the bottom of my list. Not impressed at all. IMO, it is JUNK
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