found many sites with ashtrays but unable to find a lighter. Any ideas?

Bic makes disposable lighters. :D

There are several aftermarket companies that used to make lighters, but with smoking getting more and more NPC (not politically correct) many places have stopped making them. Sorry.

I don't smoke and I don't condone smoking. However, as a past librarian, I can hardly let a "reference question" go unanswered.

Have a look at www.pepboys.com. They list cigarette lighters under "universal parts".

Iskie

would emphysema be an accessory??

well thank you for all the colorful comments. fyi...
I tried an over the counter lighter and they either didn't fit or work properly. Only honda has the proper fit.

i'm guessing that Honda keeps their lighters pretty much the same on all their cars, so if i were you, i would look for places that sell racing stuff, like racing knobs and shift kits or whatever. Usually the import racing stuff. Maybe if Tommy.roks sees this you'll get a place to look. For now look here:

http://www.importscene.com.au/category13_1.htm

I think its an aussie site, but you can get the idea of the places to check for them.

I noticed in the manual that it says the the power outlet can not be used with a lighter. Maybe check with your dealer first.

So no one has been able to find a cigarette lighter that will work in the Element?

[quote:7a09edfb31="GreenwoodVillage"]So no one has been able to find a cigarette lighter that will work in the Element?[/quote:7a09edfb31]

I got've a one-to-three power outlet adapter from Brookstone that has a cigarette lighter outlet. If I get a chance I will see if the cigarette lighter I have left over from my PT Cruiser will work in that.

Edit - it works like a charm. The cigarette lighter hole looks like it has some type of ceramic element (haha) inside to heat up the lighter.

They'll burn up, if it'll fit at all...It shouldn't fit, but don't do it anyway...Totally different application. My suggestion would be to go to a junk yard, find an older Honda or Toyota with a cigarette lighter and grab that. Most newer cars aren't coming with lighters any more.

[quote:73baa71853="chetster"]found many sites with ashtrays but unable to find a lighter. Any ideas?[/quote:73baa71853]

I looked everywhere for one also. No luck. Just carry a Zippo in the change holder. The funny thing is that Honda makes the E with enough can holders to hold a six pack of beer, but no lighter. Where would we all be if the government let adults decide what is best for themselves? Oh well.

I really don't think it's a government regulation that cars are being built without cigarette lighters.

[quote:f444b66b13="TheLusciousHellcat"]I really don't think it's a government regulation that cars are being built without cigarette lighters.[/quote:f444b66b13]

No, but it is government regulations that put pressure on all of us to give up what "they" (the government) deems as being unhealty for us. I am sure that Honda did not leave out lighters because they want to. They did it from pressure. I live in MA, where the government protects me by taking away my right to decide if I want a motorcyle helmet, use a seatbelt, smoke in a bar etc. The idea of a car being made so as not to accept a lighter is just another example. Sorry. Did not mean to get up on my soap box!!

amen!

My research reveals no government regulation of sort (Congress, EPA, Dept. of Transportation) that mandates that manufacturers omit cigarette lighters from cars.

I'm sorry if you feel your rights are being infringed by the growing medical, economic and social interest in the consequences of smoking, for you and everyone around you. It's not just the government interested in curbing smoking - economists will tell you it's a drag on the economy, physicians will tell you it wrecks health.

I'm not sure you have a 'right' to buy a car pre-equipped for your smoking convenience. I have a right to drink iced tea in my car, but I don't notice that cars are equipped with water reservoirs, little pots to brew tea, an ice machine, and a little cutting board so that I can have a slice of lemon. But I do get a cupholder.

Last time I checked, 7-11 is very happy to sell you matches, Bic lighters, and there are very nice Zippos available on eBay and in many stores. I have one myself for camping and candles, even though I most assuredly don't smoke.

My father smoked for 53 years. He's been dying by inches for years with emphysema and cannot be without supplemental oxygen for even one moment out of the day. I love my father a lot and his choice has meant that we all get to watch his suffering. Beyond the physical consequences to him, however, the insurance company pays huge bills for him, and those costs get passed on to Medicare, which means all of us.

JMHO. YMMV.

Hellcat:

First off, I am very sorry to hear about your father. It saddens me when anyone is dying from any illness or accident.

Next: Please read my previous post before replying. I never said I had a right to buy a car with a lighter. That is a complete mis-quote. I do have a right to say that it is too bad it doesn't come with a lighter and I have a right to express my opinion about anything to do with a Honda Element, which is what this site is all about.

Final and last: No sense me discussing my rights with you. My rights are fully and completely, and simply described in the Constitution. No doctor, lawyer, or economist can alter these rights or change the Constitution to suit his or her needs, beliefs or mistaken desires.

End of conversation.

"I have a right to drink iced tea in my car, but I don't notice that cars are equipped with water reservoirs, little pots to brew tea, an ice machine, and a little cutting board so that I can have a slice of lemon."

Now THAT would be cool. You could say to your dealer, "Yes, I would like the 'Iced Tea Package' installed in my E, please."

[quote:c5fa8ecef6="mreis171"]"
Now THAT would be cool. You could say to your dealer, "Yes, I would like the 'Iced Tea Package' installed in my E, please."[/quote:c5fa8ecef6]

The way people are so big on their frappalappadingdong mochaccino coffee drinks, I'm surprised there aren't little coffee makers and whipped cream frothers in vehicles already.

"I'll have the Starbucks Package" put in my E, please!"

Luscious, I'm there with you. My mother died 26 years ago at age 51 from diabetes, but cigs she could never give up helped ruin the heart just as much. My brother died 2 years ago from lung cancer at age 47. I'm glad Honda made it inconvient for smokers. I'm personally tired of the "world is my ashtray" attitude anyway.

how many people die alcohol related deaths? shall we make that illegal? and i was nearly killed crossing a street once; maybe we should make that illegal too? aren't you tired of the government (in all of its wisdom) telling you what is safe and what is not?

Guys and Gals:

This is an area of the board in which we discuss accessories for the Honda Element. If you want to discuss the moral, legal, political, or social ramifications of smoking, it should be done elsewhere.

Let's please bring this thread to an end.

Your friendly moderator.

[quote:f83abd13cd="chetster"]found many sites with ashtrays but unable to find a lighter. Any ideas?[/quote:f83abd13cd]

Check on E-bay under Honda Element. I think I may have see it there Good Luck.

Thank you Isketerol. There are always those who insist on expressing their opinion whether or not it was solicated.

I did read in the owners manual about the lighter but I was able to locate an astray online.

as a recent exsmoker - please leave this person in peace - she/he will have to make the choice on his own. But, you might want to try Zyban - it worked for me (so far) :mrgreen:

[quote:da358e4b05="alicat"]as a recent exsmoker - please leave this person in peace - she/he will have to make the choice on his own. But, you might want to try Zyban - it worked for me (so far) :mrgreen:[/quote:da358e4b05]

Congrats on quitting!

Here's an accessory for you:

Nicorette!

Ha!

Just kidding! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Really, good luck. Maybe someday they will make a healthy cigarette, though, so we can all breathe easier. I grew up with both parents smoking, gag; it was their right, but I sure as heck wish they had exercised it outside!

Steve

I'd have to agree that junkyards are excellent for this kinda thing. I doubt you'll find a perfect fit, but you can probably rig something up. The junk yards here typically have buckets of lighters. Of course, you're interested in the whole deal.

If it was me, and I only smoke when completely stressed outta my head, I'd look at finding a lighter element that can fit into the hole for the fog light switch (next to the cruise ctrl). The change tray could easily be transformed into an ashtray with an insert.

You can buy whole lighter assemblies, socket and insert at places like pepboys, autozone etc. The trick will be to find one that either:

1. Fits the hole exactly or
2. Is slightly smaller whereby you can go to a hardware store and get a washer and paint it to match the interior panel color and install it.

Personally, I'll be opting for the zippo thing myself when I get my car next month.

When I was looking to buy a car a couple years ago I was looking at the civic and the salesman told me it didnt have an ashtray, so I opted to get a year older jeep which still had a cig lighter and ashtray.

This time though, I want the Element so I'll have to get the cupholder ashtray and a zippo lighter, or do as I posted above.

June 30, 1999....

After 36 years of smoking Marlboros, I quit, with the help of drugs (Zyban).

After 3 months, I didn't want a cigarette on a daily basis.
After 1 1/2 years, I didn't want a cigarette, period!

For those of you thinking about taking "the leap", do it.
For those of you wanting to be a net nanny, get your house in order, first.

After 2 months, my Element STILL has that new car smell. :D

Well, I only quit for 9 months the year before last. It did make a difference to me, I breathed easier, my car smelled fresh all the time, and my house no longer had that stale tobacco odor (even though it was real light). But after 9 months I started to smoke again, stress got to be too much for me and I felt the urge or need to lightup again.

Now Im in a terribly stressfull time in my life, trying to get through selling my home, so it's definately not the time to quit for me.

But when I did quit I used the patch, and it worked for me. I didnt even need to go the whole route with the patch, I used the largest heaviest dose patch for a week, and I was done. My room mate quit at the same time and he needed to slowly ween himself off the patch too. But then 7 months later and he came home and stunk of ciggies, I inquired if he was hanging out with the guys in the smoking area again at his work and he told me that he had only quit for the first month, then was smoking since, just not at home. "But you dont smoke at home anymore" I said, he told me it was because he didnt want me to fall off the wagon after so many months. Well that was pretty much the clincher since my life was again in turmoil and I picked up a pack and havnt quit since.

I do plan on quitting again after my house sells and my life quiets back down again, but until then, theres the zippo, and the cupholder ashtray accessory.

Congrats to all of those that managed to quit and never pick it up again.

I am no longer a smoker, but I can sympathise with the lighter/ashtry accessory woes. I wanted an ashtry for my Civic when I bought it brand new, and was told it was an additional 40 bucks.

When I asked them how thier boss would like it if they lost a 14k sale for lack of an overpriced ashtray..it was thrown in for free.

HOWEVER..just a side note here..my new E has niether ashtray or lighter, as I had to quit smoking in March due to a little spot of cancer on my lung. My E has a light load to pull when I am driving as I now come with a scaled down right lung..they left half of it but cut the rest out. Ouch :!:

spldr ~ age 44 and one of the lucky 15% of lung cancer patients that survive. Early detection is the key..get your check ups so you can keep truckin' in your E!

There is no other product out there that kills 420,000 American's each year, and yet we don't get outraged about tobacco company profits. They have made a career lying to the American public, and yet they have the clout to avoid regulation by the FDA or anyone.

Should cars have a small safety defect, and it becomes the passion of half dozen government bureaus and citizen groups, but tobacco? It gets a pass. And it continues to find new smokers that are lost each year to help make up for a loss of customer base. They recruit at young adult night clubs with their Winston nights, or the Casbah Parties for the Camel brand. http://www.trinketsandtrash.org/casbah2.htm

Helmet laws, like tobacco use laws protect all of us, especially the future medical bills of those who feel it is their right to various dangerous behaviors. I would not mind so much, but unless the user has enough money to take care of themselves after they can no longer work, this burden gets passed on to society. I'm sorry. I don't want to pay for the bad choices of those who thought the Surgeon General warnings on tobacco packages was just fun and games. What is the wisdom of inhaling burning materials into our lungs?

And tobacco taxes are really a good thing. I call it a “pay as you go” system, if the tax revenue goes to state insurance funds. At least there is participation by those who expect future benefits from the state to take care of their health because of tobacco use and abuse. The problem with lung cancer is that by the time it is diagnosed, it is generally too late to do much of anything for it. It has a 20% survival rate five years out. Not good odds.

And there is no regulation that requires auto manufactures to cease putting cigarette lighters into automobiles. I just thought Honda and others were responding to the changing desires of auto buyers. Thank goodness tobacco use isn’t as cool as the industry once positioned it. Too many people have died, including most of the Marlboro Cowboys employed for commercials. One of the last Marlboro Cowboy models is now an anti-tobacco activist and is happy to talk about his experience, including losing his jaw to cancer.

Live is one of choices. Choose wisely.