Today I filled the E up. The needle was two needle widths below empty. 73 km showing on trip B since the gas pump light came on.
Total gas I squeezed in was 54.01 ltrs with 611.8 km showing on trip A since last fillup

Total KM on one tank 611.8 km or 380.15 miles
Total Fuel squeezed in 54.01 ltrs or 11.88 gallons (canadian)
Miles Per Gallon=32

This was a hot week with the air mostly on. 3/4 highway driving.
The fill up before that I got 33 miles per gallon.
I just don't think I have ever broken the 600km mark before.

Is there only a 12 gallon tank in this thing?

It's supposed to be 60 litres. 33 mpg would be sweet. Is that an automatic or a 5spd?

Its an all wheel drive automatic.
So I only had 6 liters left in the tank lol.

I could have gone another 30 miles or so. I figure when that fuel light comes on you have about 100km reserve based on the above.

33 mpg! Isn't that an "imperial" gallon in Canada? Which I believe is a bit larger than a US gallon. My best mileage has been 26 miles per US gallon. I also have a 4WD automatic (EX model).

If I recall correctly, a while US pint is 16 oz, an imperial pint is 20 - thus 25% more. So if you could go 26miles on a US gallon, the same vehicle in the same conditions would cover 30.5 miles on a Canadian gallon.

Cool. Thanks for the info. That makes sense, since he asked if the E only holds 12 gallons. That would be 15 gallons US, which is close. It holds 15.9 I believe.

[quote:da03d2fde8="E-Rich"]Cool. Thanks for the info. That makes sense, since he asked if the E only holds 12 gallons. That would be 15 gallons US, which is close. It holds 15.9 I believe.[/quote:da03d2fde8]

I said 'he', but I really don't know the gender of a 'pookster'. lol

What are you high milers running for tire pressure, how fast do you drive. I've squeaked 24-25mpg out of mine by keeping the revs below 3000 and doing 65mpgh on the highway vs. my regular 73-75... I just went to 34F/36R PSI, we'll see what that does.

Share your secrets!

[quote:d5d059a151="sspiller"]What are you high milers running for tire pressure, how fast do you drive. I've squeaked 24-25mpg out of mine by keeping the revs below 3000 and doing 65mpgh on the highway vs. my regular 73-75... I just went to 34F/36R PSI, we'll see what that does.

Share your secrets![/quote:d5d059a151]

I drive like normal. 75+ on freeway. Tire pressure is whatever they put it at when I bought it. Looks pretty firm tho. Might be overpressured a little.

What is going on here??? These posts of unbelievable GOOD gas mileage compared to my really BAD gas mileage (even tho' I live in CA with it's smog restrictiveness, gas additives, my own short around town trips and short trips on freeway of 50 miles or so) make me wonder if Honda put TWO kinds of engines in their Element; one that gets great mileage and one that gets SUCK mileage. (The Caravan I had, had 2 different types of engines they used....A Chrysler that got good mileage and a Mitsubishi and got SUCK mileage). Maybe I need to go back to the 2001 CRV I had to get mileage I really appreciated!

GER

What are you getting for mileage? Seems like the 5spd revs about 500rpm more then the auto on the hwy at 75mph so you would get less... i'm trying to figure out how people get over 25mpg myself... best i got was 24mpg on my first two tanks with no 3000+rpm about 68mph on the hwy, not my normal driving style so maybe it is a "who cares", gas is not that expensive issue!

I get 19 to 21 mpg. However, it is summer so the windows are always down and most of my trips are under 10 minutes.

that does not sound out of whack with what others are getting if you step on it (which is fun and easy to do) or do short hops around town...

This is my opinion on bad gas mileages:

1) If you use a/c all of the time < i use it about 5% of my daily trips >

2) windows are down, gas mileage will be less because of the wind "drag"

3) a drivers weight < i'm about 185 but if you are heavier, their you go :D

4) If you have 2 or more passengers you drag around

5) If you have a lot of accessories < i have about 87 pounds on my E >

6) Have something heavy in the back trunk area all of the time.

Bottom line:

I drive 95% alone all of the time, I very rarely use a/c, my windows are slighty down when hot, my trunk area is empty..... i get about 25 to 26

or

If i drive 2 or more people, i use the a/c, i have tons of stuff in the trunk, then i get about 22 to 23

I am not a Rocket Scientist, but this is what I GET!

I originally back at the start of the year had a manual 2WD and got it (with the seats out and the back empty) up to 32 mpg (US). With it fully loaded for a long trip I still got 25 mpg. This was all relaxed driving on the highway with virtually no AC and a lot of cruise control for the loaded trip. I never went much at all over 65 and was in 5th gear almost the entire journey. Bay Area to San Luis Obispo to Palm Desert and then back.

I have the 4WD now, and I haven't checked mileage. I hope it is similar.

That 32 mpg was amazing!

[quote:d900251773="Element"]This is my opinion on bad gas mileages:

1) If you use a/c all of the time < i use it about 5% of my daily trips >

2) windows are down, gas mileage will be less because of the wind "drag"

3) a drivers weight < i'm about 185 but if you are heavier, their you go :D

4) If you have 2 or more passengers you drag around

5) If you have a lot of accessories < i have about 87 pounds on my E >

6) Have something heavy in the back trunk area all of the time.

Bottom line:

I drive 95% alone all of the time, I very rarely use a/c, my windows are slighty down when hot, my trunk area is empty..... i get about 25 to 26

or

If i drive 2 or more people, i use the a/c, i have tons of stuff in the trunk, then i get about 22 to 23

I am not a Rocket Scientist, but this is what I GET![/quote:d900251773]

I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist, that is exactly what I thought. On a good tank i get 25-26, but if I do meet your criteria most of the time, the mileage isn't as great, but still above 20.


SO, did anyone figure out how much mpg the original poster was getting in US mpg? Sorry if someone did...

*edit*
I think I figured it out. Someone posted that the canadian gallon was 25% more than the US, so if the poster got 32 mpcg, then with a little calculation, i got somewhere around 25.6 mpusg. The way I calculated it might be wrong, but comes to a pretty good conclusion, so I'll go with it.

The convertion on the MPG I got in U.S. gallons
...32MPG canadian=26.66MPG U.S.

[quote:cef4a9657c="Element"]This is my opinion on bad gas mileages:

1) If you use a/c all of the time < i use it about 5% of my daily trips >

2) windows are down, gas mileage will be less because of the wind "drag"

3) a drivers weight < i'm about 185 but if you are heavier, their you go :D

4) If you have 2 or more passengers you drag around

5) If you have a lot of accessories < i have about 87 pounds on my E >

6) Have something heavy in the back trunk area all of the time.

Bottom line:

I drive 95% alone all of the time, I very rarely use a/c, my windows are slighty down when hot, my trunk area is empty..... i get about 25 to 26

or

If i drive 2 or more people, i use the a/c, i have tons of stuff in the trunk, then i get about 22 to 23

I am not a Rocket Scientist, but this is what I GET![/quote:cef4a9657c]

Wind resistance is also an issue. A CR-V should be able to get 2+ more MPG than an Element at highway speeds due to aerodynamics alone.

Heres the scoop-i have filled my tank up a twice (a 2wd ex auto) now at ARCO -each time filling the tank until it spilled (this takes a while because the gas pump automatic shut off requires that i squirt about .1 a gallon at a time towards the end). I have an extra gallon in a spare can in the car so i have not been afraid to run on the yellow light a very long time (about 60 miles). I dont know what to make of it, but according to the number of gallons on the gas pump i was able to fill the tank with 16.9 gallons. This indicates that ARCO is ripping me off or that the tank is able to hold more than 15.9 gallons. In any case I was able to run 420 miles on one tank. If i was to use 15.9 as the number of gallons used I would be getting 26.4 miles per gallon-if i were to use 16.9 gallons used I would be getting 24.8. To get these figures I havent been running the car over 60 on the freeway and its been about 10% city driving-so either figure isnt to bad. I will be trying to test out the "real" capacity of the gas tank at a non ARCO station next. After I get some more optimal MPG figures at 60MPG I will then replace the oil with the 0 weight synthetic oil. If I can break 28mpg, I will let you know.

[quote:751193c664="wardas00"]each time filling the tank until it spilled (this takes a while because the gas pump automatic shut off requires that i squirt about .1 a gallon at a time towards the end)...but according to the number of gallons on the gas pump i was able to fill the tank with 16.9 gallons....If I can break 28mpg, I will let you know.[/quote:751193c664]

The tank capacity likely excludes the intake tube, so I am not surprised that you can get an extra gallon or so on the gas pump (including your spillage <grin>).

If you break 28mpg, you'll be getting about twice what I get in all-short-run city miles.

-brendan

On a long road trip this past summer we (My Wife and I) got at the worst
33 mpg and at the best 36 mpg according to my trusty little sliding guide (card) that I got from the Ministry of the Environment (Canadian) while at the Toronto Auto show a few years back. We have been amazed at the great gas mileage that is not far from what we get in our 2000 Acura 1.6 el (civic EX lookalike clone) and our 1996 civic Dx that we traded in for our "E"
:D :D

Hey mr. b

Which gallon does that dohikie use? When I calculate mpg I convert liter to us gallons. I get worst 19 best 27. When I convert using UK gallons I get in the 30s.

[quote:dce7f13499="boneheadz"]Hey mr. b

Which gallon does that dohikie use? When I calculate mpg I convert liter to us gallons. I get worst 19 best 27. When I convert using UK gallons I get in the 30s.[/quote:dce7f13499]

Yeah, are we talking US gallons or Imperial Gallons???

-brendan

If you want just let me know How many KM you are travelling vs. how many litres you need to fill it and I will compute it for you or anyone else if they are interested.

When I fill it up I record the # of litres and also record the KM's travelled on that tank and voila 32mpg, 33mpg,30mpg and on a bad day 29mpg
:D :D

Sorry I forgot to answer your Question. It uses the !@!@$$% gallon.
which is to say I don't know because it does not list it. :? likely it is refering to Imperial gallons

[quote:035522b940="jonathan b"]If you want just let me know How many KM you are travelling vs. how many litres you need to fill it and I will compute it for you or anyone else if they are interested.

When I fill it up I record the # of litres and also record the KM's travelled on that tank and voila 32mpg, 33mpg,30mpg and on a bad day 29mpg
:D :D[/quote:035522b940]

380 km 46 liters

Highway. 479 km 49 liters

let me know what you get for mpg

I just got my E (less than 2000 miles), but I am getting horrible gas mileage. I have been keeping track since I got it and I rarely get over 20 mpg. I do a lot of town driving, so I kept making excuses, but recently I went on a long road trip and calculated only like 17 mpg. Can anyone give me any suggestions on what might be wrong? The windows were up, the A/C wasn't on, I drive kinda fast, but that shouldn't affect it that bad. With my same driving characteristics I used to get 33mpg with my Honda Civic. I'm a little disapointed and it is starting to affect my wallet, not to mention my concience (I thought I was getting a larger car with rather good gas mileage). let me know if anyone has any ideas, I will keep monitoring it.

Thanks for the info about overfilling the gas tank and screwing up emmsions but since it will be under waranty for acouple of years I will continue to do it until I have maxed out my MPG.

heres the new scoop

420 miles until the first sign of the empty tank light-as previously posted the tank will hold close to 17 gallons if you really try to top it off. In any case-this time i got 420 miles since last fill up till the first sign of the gas light. At the sign of the gass light I filled up and was only able to pump in 14 gallons (all the way to overflow). This is 30MPG-for those of you whining about MPG I suggest that you chnge your driving habits. I have an automatic transmission-2WD. In order this gas milage I really payed attnetion to keeping it under 60-no quick acceleerations-lots of use of the cruise on the freeway when I could get away with it-no air conditioning-in other words i babied it. This was a big improvement from my previous 26 MPG-all it took was concentration. There was about 15% city stop go driving.

30MPG is most excellent, but I will be trying to improve on this.
Next on my list is increse tire pressure to 35 PSi and use 0 wieght AMSOIL synthetic. Dont know what the results will be but will let you know after I use a tank without paying attention to MPG-want to floor it a couple of times to test out o to 60s.

dont know how to convert milage per gallon but i get between 330 to 350 miles before i have to fuel up, dx 5spd and thats doing between 70 to 75 highway, not to bad imo about the same as my old cav

Just remember that the original poster got around 26.6mpg US, their gallons are different.

Best I've done so far is 23.9 with a manual on a hilly trip and no a/c.

I have only owned my Element for 12 days. I love everything about it except one. and that fall right into this discussion. i am on my third tank right now. I don't know how full the tank was when i purchased the car, so mileage info for that tank is invalid, and i am yet able to calculate my current tank's mileage. but i do have one tank's worth of mileage data and it is nowhere near as high as you all are getting. i have a 2wd ex automatic. it was hot this last week and i had the a/c on 80% of the time or so. i only got 15mpg!!!! this is entirely city driving with one other passenger. has anyone else experienced gas mileage this low? on my current tank it looks to be doing somewhat better. a/c has been off for most of it but it still looks like it will not break out of the teens.

thanks.

[quote:ca82068615="esprine"]i only got 15mpg!!!! this is entirely city driving with one other passenger. has anyone else experienced gas mileage this low?[/quote:ca82068615]

Yes. I've gotten as low as 14mpg a tank and high as 17mpg. I'm going to document 5 or so tanks worth of low mileage and bring it to the dealer to be looked at with the documentation. It might take a while, since I've got < 700 miles on it so far... :)

I've also returned to use my bike for the small errands I'd started using the car for, to see if the "car never warmed up" driving was what was killing the mileage.

-brendan