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Kiwi_Box
12-31-2007, 10:51 PM
so the new dog was some major issues. He needs o be with someone constantly and when we leave and put him in his crate he whines and chews his blankets.

does anybody have ideas on how to work with this.

we have tried a knox toy with food (does not use)
bones (does not use)

we were thinking some kind of medicine. So what do you use or reccomend. We really need to get this undercontrol.

stocazzo
01-01-2008, 03:36 AM
I used to sleep on the floor or stay up late night with my little dude because NOTHING else would work. After a few weeks of that he started to not freak when we left. I don't recommend that method. Hopefully, someone comes up with a better idea. Oh yeah! Sometimes if I knew we were going to leave I would try to tire him out so he'd just sleep when we left.

mkh
01-01-2008, 08:31 AM
Is it a puppy? or older. Sometimes just takes time to get used to the "new" routine. Particularly if they are not used to being crated. What type of dog? Ours (two French Bulldogs) were like that as pups, but got used to the routine. Unfortunately, we had a horrible thunder storm last year, and they freaked, so we brought them to bed with us. Now, no crates, its a bed full of dogs every night.:oops:
But once they were house-broken fully, we turned our media room into their (big) crate. Put a Learning Curve First Years foot-operated baby gate across the door, and when we are at work, that's their space, with their doggy beds and toys in the corner. As soon as they see us getting ready for work, they head for "their" room, and curl up on the recliners. We'd leave the TV on for them, but one of our Frenchies gets way too worked up about animal planet - watches intently, then jumps up and tries talk to any dogs on the shows.

gisele
01-01-2008, 10:52 AM
Drugs, medication should be the last resort. First you have to determine exactly what the triggers are--yes you said it's when the dog is left alone. That's the surface condition. You'll have to dig deeper to solve the problem and help your new doggy. Here's a starter tip sheet meant to give you basic insight into the problem.

Reducing Separation Anxiety in dogs (http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PFL_PDF/Separation_Anxiety.pdf)

Sometimes it's not really separation anxiety and sometimes its specific behaviors that trigger the "problem." Sometimes a change in those behaviors or in diet (healthy diet) and sufficient exercise can alleviate the issues.

I had a dog that in his later years became afraid of thunderstorms. I used Bach's Rescue Remedy (http://www.bachflower.com/Pets.htm) (herbal remedy) to calm him. It worked very well. Like all herbal remedies it works on some beings and not on others. It is worth a try if you can't resolve the problem with behavior modification and the other tips and advice provided by professionals. There are lots of good books out there (library or bookstore). Also, don't hesitate to consult your Vet for advice, tips, tricks.

ASPCA link: http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pets_separationanxiety

Animal Behavior Center tip sheets:
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pets_dogbehavior

Good luck, this will take time and patience and a lot of work on your part.

-g

jurneez
01-01-2008, 11:18 AM
Gisele, that was a good piece of information.

My dog Pate was a rescue dog and came with some of the same issues.

Read the link as those things worked for me. His whining and crying has reduced greatly as he trusts I'll return.

Not sure of his history being a rescue dog but I always believe eye contact is important.

When he wants excessive petting, I do pet but then with a firm, low tone voice, I say "enough" to let him know I cannot pet him for 2 hours. He has come to accept it. Although he hogs the bed and rolls over looking for more once in a while.

Be gentle and give it time. How old is he? Did he have other owners prior
to you?

Regards,
jurn

ENC_ElementMan
01-01-2008, 01:34 PM
When Dutch was a puppy, he slept in a crate. He would cry all night so I slept on the floor next to the crate for about a week, after that he was good to go. He slept in there for about month until he got to big for it. The last two times I left for Iraq, he would barely eat for about 2 weeks. The first time I was worried about him but when he got hungry enough he ate. When I left this time, I told my girlfriend not to worry if he does not eat his food for a while, just keep putting it out there for him, and love on him a little extra each day. When he got hungry in the middle of the night she would hear him munching away a little. After about two weeks he was fine.

Kiwi_Box
01-01-2008, 08:57 PM
thank you for everyones help and suggestions.

i will read into some more.

to answer some questions for you all.

1. whenever some one leaves he will whine then start to bark
2. when he sees something outside he will whinee and start to bark
3. pees constantly and anywhere
4. for the past week and a half i have left the radio on and fan on. (we always sleep with the fan.) does not work. he has allready ate one blanket. and we have had for almst a month.
5. consistantly needs attention. then gets mad when you tell him down or no.
6. he is about 2 years old€

Rocket Dog
01-01-2008, 09:23 PM
thank you for everyones help and suggestions.

i will read into some more.

to answer some questions for you all.

1. whenever some one leaves he will whine then start to bark
2. when he sees something outside he will whinee and start to bark
3. pees constantly and anywhere
4. for the past week and a half i have left the radio on and fan on. (we always sleep with the fan.) does not work. he has allready ate one blanket. and we have had for almst a month.
5. consistantly needs attention. then gets mad when you tell him down or no.
6. he is about 2 years old€

Dude...he sounds a lot like you on an EOC camping trip. :rolleyes:

carvingbarn
01-01-2008, 10:54 PM
thank you for everyones help and suggestions.

i will read into some more.

to answer some questions for you all.

1. whenever some one leaves he will whine then start to bark
2. when he sees something outside he will whinee and start to bark
3. pees constantly and anywhere
4. for the past week and a half i have left the radio on and fan on. (we always sleep with the fan.) does not work. he has allready ate one blanket. and we have had for almst a month.
5. consistantly needs attention. then gets mad when you tell him down or no.
6. he is about 2 years old€

As was stated earlier it is a trust issue most of the time. He is in a new environment and scared. I have had good luck with the following. Cover one side of the crate so that you can step out of site but still be in the room. Set the crate so you can step out to the room with out him seeing you live. crating a dog then sitting down next to it for a few minutes. Then get up and move around the room were he can see you then step out of view but still talking. Then step back in to view. And praise him for being a good dog. Let him out of the crate for a few minutes. Each time you go out of view make it a little longer. This can take some time but as a rule once he begins to trust that you are coming back he will calm down. some dogs have a hard time adjusting to know homes. Most of the time they will and make real good pets.

Kiwi_Box
01-01-2008, 10:57 PM
Dude...he sounds a lot like you on an EOC camping trip. :rolleyes:


hardy har har

hiker chick
01-02-2008, 12:20 PM
Because of the peeing, I'd talk to my vet about anti-anxiety medication.

And I'd be doing as you are, researching behavioral training.

Fortunately I have not been confronted with such behavior problems but, unfortunately, that does not equip me with experience to share. (started leaving Gidget's crate door open at 5 months and 5 years later she still loves it -- sleeping in it every night as it is her den).

One thing I'd try is walking out the door for short increments -- 30 seconds, one minute, 5 minutes... -- and see if that would give the pup some hope that you were coming right back.

Is there a room you can safely gate off, in lieu of a crate? Preferably one with tile floor?

Is the dog getting a lot of exercise? Exercise can reduce behavior problems.

When Gidget's had lots of exercise she's less ornery.

Your 2-year old pup no doubt has a ton of energy and sounds like a lot of that is presently channeled into expressing anxiety.

Good luck. A friend of mine's 10-month old collie (in Arlington, VA) has some anxiety issues and they've been consulting a behaviorist-trainer. It's a tedious process of changing behavior to various stimuli.

If I can think of anything else or come across info, I'll amend this. Do you subscribe to Whole Dog Journal? They may have some back articles on this.

bh241
01-02-2008, 01:21 PM
It does sound like separation anxiety.

There are a lot of online resources (quick google search should turn them up.) but right off the top of my head, I would recommend plenty of exercise just prior to your leaving if at all possible. If the pup is tired, (s)he will behave much better - ok, so (s)he will sleep through it...

Try getting something to entertain the pup - a kong filled with peanut butter and/or biscuit treats will work wonders on most finicky pups.

Above all try not to make a big deal out of leaving/coming home. Don't do anything to add to the 'emotional' value of the whole thing.

A crate will also help on the 'pees constantly and anywhere' issue.

From what you're describing, I don't see it as a 'severe case' - I mean (s)he's not eating holes in the walls or tearing the crate apart - right? So it's doo-able without meds - but it takes a little effort.

You may well want to take a look-see at the whole NILIF (http://k9deb.com/nilif.htm) (Nothing In Life Is Free) concept. It could well be the answer to your problem.

mkh
01-02-2008, 02:05 PM
I second that - not making a big deal of leaving or coming back. Most trainers recommend that, duing crate training, you put the dog in the crate, then do other "things" aroung the house for 5 -10 minutes before you leave, and the same when you return. If you are gone daily, there is a kong treat dispenser that helps with boardom, called "KongTime". We used it when we had just one French Bulldong. Load 4 kongs with goodies and it dispenses them randomly, spaced out over the day. We put in apple slices, cheeze, biscuits, etc.

http://www.kongtime.com/

Now that we have two Frenchies, we don't use it, as they keep each other company. Am putting the two I have (ours and son's, since we now have his Frenchie due to his travel for work) on ebay in a Month or so, so if interested in getting one almost new, but less expensive, PM me.

You also might consider a companion dog? What circumstances was the dog in before? I have heard of low-in-the-pecking-order pack members that relied/followed either a strong Mom or other leader dog, acting totally stressed and lost without their dominant "buddy" telling them what to do and looking after them. Our Son's Frenchie was like that, was the litter runt, and would whine and howl like she was being killed when our Son left for work, then pee everywhere, and chew the heck out of the woodwork. Looked like a Beaver had attacked his baseboards, door trim, and table legs, and he took her to the dog park twice a day for excercise. Now that she is at our house, and has her Sister with her, she is totally fine.

Kiwi_Box
01-02-2008, 02:07 PM
It does sound like separation anxiety.

There are a lot of online resources (quick google search should turn them up.) but right off the top of my head, I would recommend plenty of exercise just prior to your leaving if at all possible. If the pup is tired, (s)he will behave much better - ok, so (s)he will sleep through it...

Try getting something to entertain the pup - a kong filled with peanut butter and/or biscuit treats will work wonders on most finicky pups.

Above all try not to make a big deal out of leaving/coming home. Don't do anything to add to the 'emotional' value of the whole thing.

A crate will also help on the 'pees constantly and anywhere' issue.

From what you're describing, I don't see it as a 'severe case' - I mean (s)he's not eating holes in the walls or tearing the crate apart - right? So it's doo-able without meds - but it takes a little effort.

You may well want to take a look-see at the whole NILIF (http://k9deb.com/nilif.htm) (Nothing In Life Is Free) concept. It could well be the answer to your problem.

Thanks Benny

I have given him his own kong, bones, stuffed animals. He was more things in his crate then i had as a kid. He doesn;t eat furniture or anything like that but he does chew through the blankets in his crate and over his crate. I have triied 10-20 minute walks in the morning before we leave. This does not help.

This is just so frustrating. Then when we are at home. Hwe will be attached to us. Now it is kinda funny, he seems to think that he is a lap dog. But he seems like he just doesn't "get it". He have been strict with the down, no, lay down, good boy stuff since day one.

bh241
01-02-2008, 02:30 PM
He was more things in his crate then i had as a kid.
Too much stuff I wonder? Try knocking it down to one or two things at the most - (kong being one of them.)

He doesn;t eat furniture or anything like that but he does chew through the blankets in his crate and over his crate.
He probably smells you (or the wife) on the blanket.

I have triied 10-20 minute walks in the morning before we leave. This does not help. We're talking about the little white dog you guys had at Knotts Island, right? Yea, I could see how that wouldn't really put a damper on his activity level. - Don't guess you could do half hour (minimum) walks? I really doubt a short walk will do a lot for that pup.

Then when we are at home. He will be attached to us. Now it is kinda funny, he seems to think that he is a lap dog. But he seems like he just doesn't "get it". He have been strict with the down, no, lay down, good boy stuff since day one. Try ignoring him when you get home, don't immediately grab him up and give him all kinds of attention. I know it's hard, but it really does work.

I'm going to give you a few links that I think might help, but it all involves pretty much the same thing.


Check these links out when you have time, they may help.

http://www.wagntrain.com/SeparationAnx.htm

Humane Society - Separation Anxiety (http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/our_pets_for_life_program/dog_behavior_tip_sheets/separation_anxiety.html)

ASPCA - Separation Anxiety (http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pets_separationanxiety)

Teach that dog dot com (http://teachthatdog.com/blog/8/separation-anxiety-and-your-dog)

Petfinder - J. Schultz (ASPCA) (http://www.petfinder.com/journal/index.cgi?article=69)


I know it's a lot of links - but I think these and the NILIF concept is really your answer.

Kiwi_Box
01-02-2008, 03:00 PM
We're talking about the little white dog you guys had at Knotts Island, right? Yea, I could see how that wouldn't really put a damper on his activity level. - Don't guess you could do half hour (minimum) walks? I really doubt a short walk will do a lot for that pup
NO this is the new one

see attached link
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40664

beagle basset mix


the little white doesn;t really care. she looks as it's time to go back to bed

shawn.chris
01-02-2008, 03:36 PM
I think you have to teach him your the pack leader, my rotti is a lot better since we stated to watch the dog whisper. She will now go in her crate when people are over without barking.

Remember, reward for acceptable/good behavior and do not use the crate for punishment.

Kiwi_Box
01-02-2008, 03:45 PM
i don;t use the crate for punishment, It is weird with him though. He will go and lay down at night when we are in the bedroom watching tv... but when we go to leave he freaks out and doesn' want to be there. i have to physicaly put him there

bh241
01-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Ah the beagle mix. :) I remember him. So he's really not been with you for that long. OK, I was thinking it was the other pup - I still think it's an issue of him bonding with you and the wife, even if it's not been a long time.

You'll probably have to go through a process, a little at a time if you will. I still don't think medication is the way to go, but your vet would be the one to offer up a realistic opinion rather than any of us.

I would try something similar to what the Humane Society has on their site, Separation Anxiety (http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/our_pets_for_life_program/dog_behavior_tip_sheets/separation_anxiety.html).
Specifically I would look at trying to de-sensitize the dog to the stress he perceives from being alone.


Desensitization Techniques for More Severe Cases of Separation Anxiety
The primary treatment for more severe cases of separation anxiety is a systematic process of getting your dog used to being alone. You must teach your dog to remain calm during "practice" departures and short absences. We recommend the following procedure:
Begin by engaging in your normal departure activities (getting your keys, putting on your coat), then sit back down. Repeat this step until your dog shows no distress in response to your activities.
Next, engage in your normal departure activities and go to the door and open it, then sit back down.
Next, step outside the door, leaving the door open, then return.
Finally, step outside, close the door, then immediately return. Slowly get your dog accustomed to being alone with the door closed between you for several seconds.
Proceed very gradually from step to step, repeating each step until your dog shows no signs of distress. The number of repetitions will vary depending on the severity of the problem. If at any time in this process your actions produce an anxiety response in your dog, you've proceeded too fast. Return to an earlier step in the process and practice this step until the dog shows no distress response, then proceed to the next step.
Once your dog is tolerating your being on the other side of the door for several seconds, begin short-duration absences. This step involves giving the dog a verbal cue (for example, "I'll be back"), leaving, and then returning within a minute. Your return must be low-key: Either ignore your dog or greet him quietly and calmly. If he shows no signs of distress, repeat the exercise. If he appears anxious, wait until he relaxes to repeat the exercise. Gradually increase the length of time you're gone.
Practice as many absences as possible that last less than ten minutes. You can do many departures within one session if your dog relaxes sufficiently between departures. You should also scatter practice departures and short-duration absences throughout the day.
Once your dog can handle short absences (30 to 90 minutes), he'll usually be able to handle longer intervals alone and you won't have to repeat this process every time you are planning a longer absence. The hard part is at the beginning, but the job gets easier as you go along. Nevertheless, you must go slowly at first. How long it takes to condition your dog to being alone depends on the severity of his problem.

Here's a pdf file (http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PFL_PDF/Separation_Anxiety.pdf) that you should print out and discuss with the wife, it outlines what I think would be your best avenue to solve the whole problem.


Worst part is this isn't an overnight solution, I honestly don't know if there really is one (an overnight solution) but given a little time and effort, I do think you can bring this dog around.




Hang in there, it will get better.

GJIsh
01-03-2008, 03:42 AM
You can check out Mr. O's Website at http://mros.biz/. He's just outside of Pittsburgh which may be too far away for you to have him do the training but his site may have some information for you. He offers a one day class which I thought was too short to train a dog. But after we took Maggie to him she was 100% different when she came home. I don't think we would have kept her if it wasn't for Mr. O. You can see Maggie's Website at http://www.geocities.com/gordonsdog/. I've know Joe (Mr. O) for several years now and have refered a number of people to him. All of which were very satisfied.

amya
01-03-2008, 11:52 AM
Just a thought. Is it the crate? When I got Harley they said he loved his crate. I think they loved to leave him in it. I don't crate, nothing wrong with it, just my choice. Well one day last summer I took the crate out of the shed and Harley started pacing ... I opened the door (had stuff stored in it) and he bolted !!! Ran to my roommate and jumped in his lap. The poor little guy was just shaking. The crate went back in the shed.

Katmandu
01-08-2008, 05:16 AM
We have a very serious problem with our next door neighbor and her (7) year old full blooded Beagle. She's a single mom that has some serious mental health issues. I believe the Beagle has serious mental health issues as well after living with her.

Anyways, all was well and cool until the neighbor's only kid was out of kindergarden (this past fall). Up until this point, her mom (Cavewoman) would come over and babysit while my neighbor went to work in the AM. Well, the problem started immediately after the kid's school situation changed.

I'm a 3rd shift worker and naturally sleep during the day. Well, this little crazy Beagle decides that's the perfect time to begin his howling and wailing routine! :mad: (BTW, my 2nd floor bedroom window is only (25) feet from Crazy Beagle's fence)! :shock:

He begins this obnoxious routine as soon as my neighbor gets in her car to leave at 0630hrs. He wakes my wife up and keeps me from going to sleep.

My neighbor has a doggy door on her back door so Crazy Beagle comes/goes into his back yard at will all day long. :rolleyes:

She used to "try" to get him to be quite until she lost her mind on us about a parking situation in front of our houses. (No need to go there except to say that she and her Cavewoman looking mother are Rats Azzed Crazy!) :shock:

Anyways, little Crazy Beagle's routine has very recently got much worse! The crazy family was home alot over the Holidays, so Crazy Beagle got attention.

Now that the Holidays are over, Crazy Beagle goes on a non-stop tizzy of loud howling, wailing and now BAYING (The LOUD Beagle bark) ! :mad:

My neighbor leaves very frequently (for up to (24)hrs at a time) leaving Crazy Beagle neglected. She ALWAYS leaves her house DARK as well. I'm sure he's got food /water etc... but he has full reign of his backyard (24/7).

As you may have guessed by now, my wife and I are at our wits ends!

The local Ordnance states that an Obnoxious dog HAS to be barking for (30) minutes STRAIGHT for Police to take action. Crazy Beagle does not do his routine straight thru, but breaks it up just enough through out the day to skim by the Ordnance.

So that leaves me to Plan B. Which of course would land ME in JAIL! :shock: :razz:

So I would LOVE to hear your'all "LEGAL" suggestions.

Trying to "REASON" with my neighbor is out of the question! As a wise man once said..."It's impossible to REASON with a Drunk, Drugged or CRAZY person so don't even try"!!

Help me PLEASE get some sleep! :)

hiker chick
01-08-2008, 06:03 PM
We have a very serious problem with our next door neighbor and her (7) year old full blooded Beagle. She's a single mom that has some serious mental health issues. I believe the Beagle has serious mental health issues as well after living with her. :)


What a nightmare!

Since she's a nut and you're already on bad terms, I think I'd videotape some of the episodes and send those to whoever enforces that ordinance.

And I'd look into the possibility of suing in small claims court.

And I'd look into noise-suppression windows for your bedroom in addition to using ear plugs and some white noise machine (an air purifier serves as that for me).

If the housing market weren't so awful, I'd look into moving.

Are you the only person on your block who has a problem with the noise?

Solid
01-09-2008, 01:53 AM
Wow, my condolences, and poor beagle.

I second the videotaping suggestion. Having more evidence is always better than word of mouth.

Have you tried ear-plugs? I had a bunk mate once that had sleep apnea, and would snore loud enough to shock and awe anyone. Simple, basic 50 cent ear plugs did the trick for me.

Katmandu
01-09-2008, 03:54 AM
What a nightmare!

Since she's a nut and you're already on bad terms, I think I'd videotape some of the episodes and send those to whoever enforces that ordinance.

And I'd look into the possibility of suing in small claims court.

Video (and Audio) recording is a great suggestion! 8-)

I'm afraid the SCC would only enrage her further.

Actually, I have NO problem at all confronting her (Politely and Professionally of course), but my wife is afraid of her cause she is RATS-AZZED-CRAZY! Remember the Hatfield's and McCoy's ? That's the type white-trash these folks are. :rolleyes:

And I'd look into noise-suppression windows for your bedroom in addition to using ear plugs and some white noise machine (an air purifier serves as that for me). I have double paned windows, noise-sound machine already and I also use ear plugs (help alot actually). Still hear the little turd thru all that though. :rolleyes:

If the housing market weren't so awful, I'd look into moving.We will be moving eventually. 3-4 years down the road though.

Are you the only person on your block who has a problem with the noise? Not at all, but I am the closest. The neighbor on the otherside is a pot head and his roomate is a dealer. So they will NOT complain. :rolleyes: All the other neighbors just give lip service (Man! Is that dog a PITA!) but they don't want to get involved. Probably because their just far enough away and Crazy Beagle usually does his routine during Day light hours (when they are away at work and I'm TRYING to sleep!) . :|

Katmandu
01-09-2008, 04:09 AM
Wow, my condolences, and poor beagle.I know it. He's actually a very sweet, playful little dude! He will litterally wear you down playing catch! My neighbor (and her kid) just treat him like he's not there.

Funny thing. My wife and I "almost" adopted him (before our neighbor). She ended up taking him in.

We DID actually ended up with a full blooded Beagle ourselves shortly thereafter! Ours is a female that does NOT (Thank God) have that dreaded Beagle BAYING! She's a few months younger than Crazy Beagle. She does bark (too much - which we try HARD to combat) at all the squirrels though!
:D

We also have another 1/2 Beagle - 1/2 Brittany Spaniel. He's as mellow as they get.

We share a fence line with the next door neighbor as well. Even when our dogs are outside keeping Crazy Beagle company, he STILL acts like a LOON when the neighbor leaves. :rolleyes:

He definitely has a serious case of separation anxiety and IS terrified of the dark. As I said before, our neighbor leaves her house pitch black!! Too damn cheap to run a 75 watt light bulb for (8) hrs. :mad:

I am pondering erecting a light pole next to my fence line too LIGHT UP my neighbor's back yard. I wonder if that will help during night time hours any ???? :confused:

bh241
01-09-2008, 07:35 AM
What a bummer, we had a beagle once, God rest his soul. He too was a 'vocal' little bugger. We never were able to do much about that sadly. I guess it's a good thing that we live out in the country, because as hard as it was for us to get use to his incessant barking/baying/howling I can't imagine a neighbor ever ever accepting that.

My vote is to do the video tape too, contact your neighbor, but sadly from what I'm understanding you're describing, I doubt anything will come of it - at least nothing regarding the dog's barking anyway. :-(

I wish I could offer more... beagles are a 'barky' breed, without the 'owner' actually trying to train the dog, I just plain don't see anything that you're going o be able to do.

mkh
01-09-2008, 08:37 AM
Couple of thought:

a) Put up that outside light and see if it helps.

b) Tell the neighbor you noticed that taking care of the dog seems to be a bit much for her right now, and can YOU adopt it. (Then retrain it, or likely once it is part of your pack, will stop the behavior).

wolfhounder
01-09-2008, 09:49 AM
this really worked for my boy with separation anxiety

bach flower rescue remedy. 4 or 5 drops under the tounge. i mean, it REALLY worked:-o you can get it at most health food stores--

hiker chick
01-09-2008, 12:43 PM
I know it. He's actually a very sweet, playful little dude! He will litterally wear you down playing catch! My neighbor (and her kid) just treat him like he's not there.

Funny thing. My wife and I "almost" adopted him (before our neighbor). She ended up taking him in.

We DID actually ended up with a full blooded Beagle ourselves shortly thereafter! Ours is a female that does NOT (Thank God) have that dreaded Beagle BAYING! She's a few months younger than Crazy Beagle. She does bark (too much - which we try HARD to combat) at all the squirrels though!
:D

We also have another 1/2 Beagle - 1/2 Brittany Spaniel. He's as mellow as they get.

We share a fence line with the next door neighbor as well. Even when our dogs are outside keeping Crazy Beagle company, he STILL acts like a LOON when the neighbor leaves. :rolleyes:

He definitely has a serious case of separation anxiety and IS terrified of the dark. As I said before, our neighbor leaves her house pitch black!! Too damn cheap to run a 75 watt light bulb for (8) hrs. :mad:

I am pondering erecting a light pole next to my fence line too LIGHT UP my neighbor's back yard. I wonder if that will help during night time hours any ???? :confused:

Perhaps you could ask the owner to let you dog sit when she's gone during the day (or longer). That way your pup would have company and that may distract the noisy one from his separation anxiety-boredom.

Sounds like it could hardly be much noisier since he's right next door anyway. And if your dog is mellow then they might have fun together.

Katmandu
01-10-2008, 12:20 AM
Perhaps you could ask the owner to let you dog sit when she's gone during the day (or longer). That way your pup would have company and that may distract the noisy one from his separation anxiety-boredom.

Sounds like it could hardly be much noisier since he's right next door anyway. And if your dog is mellow then they might have fun together.Not a bad idea except she can't stand my wife (she never did anything to her). :rolleyes:

I used to put my little Beagle over the fence so her and Crazy Beagle could play together. She always ended up jumping OVER the 4ft fence and run loose! She thought that was GREAT! :rolleyes: :cool:

Solid
01-10-2008, 04:03 AM
My ex-girlfriend and I adopted a "beagle-lab" mix from the shelter. She looks completely lab-like and we were wondering where the shelter came up with the idea that she was crossed with a beagle.

...

And then she yodeled.

...

Ah! There's the beagle.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/79/241380446_85fd971126_o.jpg

She (the dog) is now with the ex. Am I a bad person for missing the dog more than the lady? :D

gisele
01-10-2008, 07:54 AM
Am I a bad person for missing the dog more than the lady? :D

:lol::lol::lol:

No, it's a really cute pup! ;-)

hiker chick
01-10-2008, 11:32 AM
She (the dog) is now with the ex. Am I a bad person for missing the dog more than the lady? :D

A friend of mine said that the death of her 12-year old dog was even more devastating than the demise of her 14-year marriage.

And the divorce, which she did not initiate, was painful in itself.

It was a very bad year for her.

Sympathies on losing custody of the pup (who is a cutie).

:-)

Jojo
01-10-2008, 11:49 AM
She (the dog) is now with the ex. Am I a bad person for missing the dog more than the lady?

Uhhhmmmmmm..... NO!
I don't know the dog or the lady, but I can sure see missing that sweet face:-(

Solid
01-11-2008, 02:35 AM
No worries, I still have Nikko:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/98/241380460_6b6256527e_o.jpg

She wanted her "own" dog since I've had Nikko for so long when we got together.

Back on topic, when I leave for work I leave a plate of snacks for him to devour just as I walk out the door, and that seem to distract him enough. (Aside: Nik seems to know that if I'm in suit and tie he's not coming along for the walk or car ride, but if I'm in casual clothing and barely touch the keys he materializes at my side, looking and seemingly asking, "hey, where WE going?) My neighbors don't hear him barking, which makes me believe he goes right for the bed for a nap. He's also 9 and we hike daily, so I think he's mellowed out much.