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: Flipping?


AnnaVENIS
09-29-2003, 01:56 PM
I myself haven't had this problem but a friend of mine saw an Element flipped over in the middle of the road (i.e. no curves) and she's concerned now about the safety of this vehcile. I used to drive a Cherokee and my Element feels a lot sturdier than that one ever did. I just don't see it flipping unless the driver is being extremely careless.

I'm not good with statistics and numbers but does anyone know where I might be able to find something to show her that might out her mind (and mine now!) at ease?

Thanks so much!

eMass
09-29-2003, 02:16 PM
Actually, a lot of people don't know this but - Hollywood stunt companies have been buying Elements in record numbers because of it's unique ability to get up on 2 tires so easily. On one hand, it's kinda cool that we'll be seeing a whole bunch of new action films with E's in them but on the other hand, the E is going to get a bad reputation rather quickly.







P.S. THIS IS A JOKE. :lol:

My E handles quite nicely and I have never heard of a tipping problem.

MikeQBF
09-29-2003, 02:27 PM
Not being smart here, but personally witnessing a single example doesn't exactly count as a "trend". It's more along the lines of a coincidence of time and place. Work hard enough at it (or, rather, drive stupidly enough) and you can pretty much roll any vehicle.

The E is rated by the gov't at "3 stars" out of 5 for rollover susceptibility. That's not as bad as it sounds, since most SUVs get either a 2 or 3 (there are a couple at 4). So the E is "average" in rollover rating for all vehicles, not just SUVs. If it's any additional consolation, the E scores either Excellent or Good in other tests, with a 5 in most categories. The IIHS (the people that "Dateline" has on all the time, showing them crashing cars) rates the Element as "Good" overall.

Do a Google search for "Honda Element Crash Test" and "Honda Element Rollover" and there will be plenty of links to assuage your friend's concerns.

firetruck41
09-29-2003, 02:30 PM
I've seen sports cars flipped, minivans flipped, SUVs flipped, sedans flipped, pickup trucks flipped, semi trucks flipped anything can rollover given the right speed and conditions.

Direct her to: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/2003SUVs.html

This has the NHTSA crash ratings for all 2003 SUVs. The Element rated 3 stars in the rollover rating (a brand new category), only four vehicles (Acura MDX/Honda Pilot, Pontiac Aztek, Nissan Murano) got four stars, none rated 5 stars, all the rest did the same as the E or worse. The Element fares pretty well in this comparison.

Ming
09-29-2003, 05:54 PM
Its not the element that flips easy but the driver that drives the car who flips it. The machine is not to blame its the pilot.

I have recently witnessed a car skid out of control on a straight strech of highway travelling at 65 mph. Why or How the driver did it I don't know :?:

Keep in mind the Element has a higher center of gravity, know the car and its limits and you will be fine.

Ming

AnnaVENIS
09-29-2003, 05:58 PM
Wow, thank you all so much for the information! I'm not concerned about my own safety because I don't drive maniacally (is that a word?)

I'll give her this information... thanks.

onelove
09-29-2003, 11:38 PM
I drive my e like a total ******* and have had no problems, 40-50 mph 90 degree turns. 35 in the rain, 4 wheel drifts, no hints of flipping. I tried to get it up on 2 weeks a few times and was unsuccessful so I'll take that as a good thing.

ShaneS
10-29-2003, 08:22 PM
Was the "E" rocking on its arched roof upside down LOL


[quote:7e0e2d9062="AnnaVENIS"]I myself haven't had this problem but a friend of mine saw an Element flipped over in the middle of the road (i.e. no curves) and she's concerned now about the safety of this vehcile. I used to drive a Cherokee and my Element feels a lot sturdier than that one ever did. I just don't see it flipping unless the driver is being extremely careless.

I'm not good with statistics and numbers but does anyone know where I might be able to find something to show her that might out her mind (and mine now!) at ease?

Thanks so much![/quote:7e0e2d9062]

HappyCamper
10-29-2003, 08:42 PM
Hope no one was hurt. But the image of it rocking is FUNNY.

My E's handling feels great and sure footed compared to other vehicles I've had. And I recently was driving through an unfamiliar neighborhood. I got distracted looking off to the side, then saw that the street I was on was about to do a zig-zag to the left, and I was heading straight on into the curb at 30 mph.

I instinctively pulled the steering wheel hard to the left, then tto right, and was amazed by how well it handled that maneuver.

Booch
11-06-2003, 07:40 PM
i have seen an E on its roof near syracuse, ny on the highway in the rain. it had about 20" chrome rims and low profile tires.

check out my post on hondaelement.org

http://www.hondaelement.org/showthread.php?s=8d2aac80b70f2cc917eaa36c224dc7d7&threadid=2692

not sure what caused this but i am assuming it was the driver. you dont put performance tires on a car and do the speed limit.