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Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 09:44 PM

The wrench symbol came on. It must be oil change time? So according to the threads I have read it seems that there are two choices.
1) Red Line
2) Mobil 1 Extended
Is this right for our Ontario climate of hot summers cold winter (ideal for Lilac trees) and available?
p.s. at 6,600kmsRedline can get a bit pricy depending on where you buy it and you might have to order it ahead of time. Some Canadian Tire stores stock it, but normally they just have the 10W30 and 5W30 on the shelf.

If it was me, I would do two things:

Recommend to the shop they change the filter at EVERY service, not just when the maintenance minder says to (an "A" service according to Honda is simply the oil changed without the filter, but be sure to specifically request a new filter be installed)
Buy Mobil 1 5W20 synthetic in the 4.4L or 5L bulk jug from Wal-Mart or any other store that carries it and use that. It's cheaper than buying the individual 1L bottles and it will be fine so long as you follow your maintenance when it is required.

I honestly don't care much for the maintenance minder system because I like having control over my maintenance and when I see cars coming into the shop with 10-12,000kms on them and it says to just rotate the tires and change only the oil and NOT the filter, I have issues. I'm a die-hard "service by kilometers" fan as well as an old fashioned "oil & filter" guy. I mean who honestly changes the oil and not the filter? Sorry Honda but I need to see some good hard evidence behind that "A" service.

Call me old fashioned, but I check my tire pressures once a week. I change my oil and filter every 5000kms, using an S2000 filter and normal Mobil 1 5W20 synthetic. Every 10,000kms I rotate my tires. Every 20,000kms I change the transmission fluid. For everything else, I follow the Honda maintenance schedule for things like brake services, spark plugs, brake fluid and coolant replacement because the Honda stuff is pretty durable in that regard. Mind you, I work at a dealership so I do the work on my lunch hour but anyone can follow a more frequent and even method if they want. I like it because all my maintenance happens in certain intervals. I don't need a sticker to remind me when to change the oil because I know if it's a multiple of 5000 then it's time. If it's a multiple of 10,000 I know the tires need rotating. If it's a multiple of 20,000 I know to change the ATF. Nice and simple.

Am I a bit anal with my vehicle's maintenance? Yes. Does it hurt the Element? No. Does it cost more? Most definitely. Do I sleep better knowing that I'm keeping the worst necessary investment I will ever make in my life in peak condition? You bet your ass I do.

hapyface

03-22-2009, 09:53 PM

Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 09:59 PM

i used Castrol 5W30 synthetic last time....@ 5000 miles.....but got Honda's 5W20 synthetic this time.... for 10000 miles... of course with a new filter each time...... will see what happens... regardless, its way better than the regular oil change!This is going to sound REALLY odd hapy, but I used the Honda 5W20 synthetic once and I didn't like the smell of it new when I opened the bottle. It had a regular oil scent to it whereas the Mobil 1 5W20 I bought had almost a sweet smell to it.

Maybe I'm just puffing smoke out my ass here but I ran the Honda 5W20 for about a week and that whole scent thing drove me nuts. I ended up dumping it all and put Mobil 1 back in. I run Redline in the Civic because I like to drive it hard. But for the Element it will be Mobil 1 exclusively from now on. The only place I found it in the bulk jug in town here was at Wal-Mart. Was something like $41.99 for a 5L jug if I recall correctly.

Not saying the Honda synthetic 5W20 is bad because I'm sure it does what it is supposed to do, but I don't think it's as pure a synthetic as Mobil 1 is.

P.S. Honda Ontario oil is just rebadged Petro-Canada oil, both the regular and the synthetic.

Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 10:11 PM

It is for 2002-2005 SiR. I would hate to see someone cut up a $900 cat back just to fit the E.One of the reasons why I want to swap a B-series into my Civic. People keep telling me to get a K20A2 RSX-S motor but I have an ESPELIR JGT500 cat-back on my hatch (it cost me $900 and that was my COST back when I bought it from KHF) and there is no way I'm cutting into that gem so I can fit a converter in to have a legit K-swap.

All signs are pointing towards the economical but respectable OBD-2 B18B engine for the hatchie so the ESPELIR stays intact :D

hapyface

03-22-2009, 10:26 PM

Lizzurd.... Xchange those oils to Mobil 1!!!!!!!! Not opened yet, any refunds?

i can sense...lizzurd's gonna hate me....... hmm but i am suprised why honda 5W20 synthetic is so "strange"

This is going to sound REALLY odd hapy, but I used the Honda 5W20 synthetic once and I didn't like the smell of it new when I opened the bottle. It had a regular oil scent to it whereas the Mobil 1 5W20 I bought had almost a sweet smell to it.

Maybe I'm just puffing smoke out my ass here but I ran the Honda 5W20 for about a week and that whole scent thing drove me nuts. I ended up dumping it all and put Mobil 1 back in. I run Redline in the Civic because I like to drive it hard. But for the Element it will be Mobil 1 exclusively from now on. The only place I found it in the bulk jug in town here was at Wal-Mart. Was something like $41.99 for a 5L jug if I recall correctly.

Not saying the Honda synthetic 5W20 is bad because I'm sure it does what it is supposed to do, but I don't think it's as pure a synthetic as Mobil 1 is.

P.S. Honda Ontario oil is just rebadged Petro-Canada oil, both the regular and the synthetic.

kitkat123474

03-22-2009, 10:28 PM

i used the mobil 1 1000 5w20 oil

performs nice and don't have much smell to it either
i'm pretty anal when i go over the oil change intervals and everytime i change my oil, i like to have my filter replaced with it too. who knows what junk and stuff are building up in there :D

for us, the A service will mean:

5w20-5w30 oil
drain plug washer
15400-PLM-A02 filter

since the price of the filters are so cheap nowadays, why not replace the filter every oil change intervals?

it only cost $9.18 + tax (retail price) and you get the filter and crush washer

pay a bit more, and it'll pay itself down the road :)

kitkat123474

03-22-2009, 10:28 PM

hapyface

03-22-2009, 10:30 PM

hmm i can always sell it to my neighbour..... but easier to have it refund.....

so question...if 5W20 is sold out (liek most times) is 30 ok? also what is castrol like? been using those for years

Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 10:33 PM

Lizzurd.... Xchange those oils to Mobil 1!!!!!!!! Not opened yet, any refunds?

i can sense...lizzurd's gonna hate me....... hmm but i am suprised why honda 5W20 synthetic is so "strange"LOL don't do anything rash hapy. I am just stating an observation and it may very well just be in my head.

I'm not saying the Honda 5W20 synthetic ISN'T synthetic because I have looked it up online and it is, I just found that it smelled different compared to the Mobil 1.

Also, there is debate clearly available for reading online as to what a company can technically call a "synthetic", which Petro-Canada was involved in along with Castrol and other companies.

I'm sure so long as you follow your maintenance schedule, ANY oil will be okay. But me, I'm too freakin anal and I tend to stick with what I think works best, even if it is no better than anything else out there.

hapyface

03-22-2009, 10:35 PM

hahaha..... ok ok..... for a moment u made it sound like i got some regular oil branded synthetic.... geez since your so anal wanna flush my backside for me :lol:

crazy thou... 2Es.... 1 bottle of wax!

Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 11:02 PM

hahaha..... ok ok..... for a moment u made it sound like i got some regular oil branded synthetic.... geez since your so anal wanna flush my backside for me :lol:LOL okay now you're starting to scare me hapy.

No, the Honda synthetic 5W20 is a full synthetic, but where it all comes into question is what a company is allowed to consider and label a "synthetic". It has to to with polyalphaolephins (PAOs) and very high viscosity index (VHVI) basestocks.

I found this article interesting. I know it is on the AMSOIL website but the one thing that remains true throughout the entire article is that Mobil 1 still remains true to using PAOs for their full synthetic oils.

Here is the article: http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/is_your_synthetic_motor_oil_really_synthetic.htm

hapyface

03-22-2009, 11:05 PM

Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 11:10 PM

alright none those jokes now....oh wellz i will suck it up and use the honda synthetic this time.... switch to mobil next tim.....BTW lizzurd...do u carry mobil? if so let me know, i wanna swap or xchange.Ya I just changed out the Honda stuff because I work there so I did it on my own time after hours. It was only a week old along with the filter so I just dumped the oil and took the filter off to drain everything out, then put the filter back on and poured in the Mobil 1.

You'll be fine with the Honda stuff. Sorry if I spooked ya or anything. I know the Honda synthetic is good stuff and for all intents and purposes, it probably doesn't make much difference what synthetic you use so long as you change it regularly.

Like I said, I change my oil every 5000kms and use the S2000 filter (Honda P/N 15400-PCX-004) so at that rate, there is probably no real difference between the Honda stuff and Mobil 1. I just feel better using Mobil 1 that's all.

LOL take what I say with a grain of salt and skepticism because I can be a bit OCD sometimes :lol:

hapyface

03-22-2009, 11:21 PM

dont go postal with ur car ok?! ;-)

Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 11:33 PM

dont go postal with ur car ok?! ;-)LOL well, our vehicles are easily the worst necessary investments we will ever make in our entire lives.

I'm going to do everything in my power to ensure I get every freakin penny's worth out of mine ;-)

hapyface

03-22-2009, 11:41 PM

LOL well, our vehicles are easily the worst necessary investments we will ever make in our entire lives.

I'm going to do everything in my power to ensure I get every freakin penny's worth out of mine ;-)

i maintain them well so i can debt service those vehicles from using it primarily for business purposes!

Generation "X" Dad

03-22-2009, 11:43 PM

By the way guys, I go to write the C of Q (technician's license exam) on the 31st so I probably won't be around the boards much this week if any at all because I'm going to be hitting the books to prep for it. I need a 70% to pass and it costs $100 a pop so I want to get it on my first try.

So Kit, make sure you keep me posted if anything changes and I will text you when I'm in the GTA.

See you guys Sunday!!!!

Steve-O.

hapyface

03-22-2009, 11:44 PM

good luck and sleep tight! start counting Es like little black sheeps :lol:

kitkat123474

03-23-2009, 12:24 AM

the PCX filters fit the E?

lizzurd

03-23-2009, 06:35 AM

the PCX filters fit the E?

They do......

lizzurd

03-23-2009, 06:36 AM

CrazyCanuck

03-23-2009, 07:36 AM

petro-canada oils are quite cheap. like i said, pay a bit more and you'll get better gas mileage and performs better :)

Petro-Canada is now Suncor as of this a.m.
:)

hpycmpr

03-23-2009, 07:37 AM

Gen X Dad
Thanks so much for your input on the oil. Good luck with your exam, (I just did a verbal exam last week and do my final written one this week). I won't get to meet you Sunday as I'll be at the ABA show in T.O. but you will get to meet my husband.
Have a great meet everyone. K.

hapyface

03-23-2009, 10:25 AM

is amsoil good? you gotta understand mechanics...your talking to an amateur here.... i only know how to record problems / incidents.

lizzurd

03-23-2009, 10:43 AM

is amsoil good? you gotta understand mechanics...your talking to an amateur here.... i only know how to record problems / incidents.

Back when i was at parkway alot of people used to ask for it. We sell a decent amount of it. I use plain old bottled oil my self.

PVR

03-23-2009, 12:13 PM

LOL well, our vehicles are easily the worst necessary investments we will ever make in our entire lives...

If that's true you're a lot more responsible than I am with your "necessary investments" :D

kitkat123474

03-23-2009, 03:55 PM

i like mobil 1 better hapyface...

petro-canada oils are so sluggish when running high rpm's (imo)

PVR

03-23-2009, 04:00 PM

i like mobil 1 better hapyface...

petro-canada oils are so sluggish when running high rpm's (imo)

:rolleyes:

and just how does this make any appreciable difference to an AT Element (definitely NOT a high performance vehicle)?

kitkat123474

03-23-2009, 05:16 PM

:rolleyes:

and just how does this make any appreciable difference to an AT Element (definitely NOT a high performance vehicle)?

i always push the AT to the redlines :D

i love the sound of i-vtec :D:lol:

lizzurd

03-23-2009, 05:43 PM

i always push the AT to the redlines :D

i love the sound of i-vtec :D:lol:

Have you ever heard an engine grenading?:confused:

hapyface

03-23-2009, 06:06 PM

4000 rpm and above is for emergencies only.... 2000 - 3500 is my usual acceleration.......

first pple say Honda oil is PetroCdn oil....now someone is telling me Amsoil is PetrolCdn oil too?! :?:

so lost....i'm juz using Amsoil this time...

kitkat123474

03-24-2009, 09:47 PM

LOL thought you would like that Kit.

I have the Russell Peters skit down to a science :D

oh do you eh? i love how he made that italian hand signal and he said "f#$k you!" and the indian guy comes out and asks "do you want to eat? and no swearing!!" LOLLLL :lol:

hapyface

03-24-2009, 09:56 PM

the forum is so quiet these days

kitkat123474

03-24-2009, 09:57 PM

ouzo hasn't been on... someone find him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Generation "X" Dad

03-24-2009, 10:08 PM

the PCX filters fit the E?They most all Honda engines that take the regular filter, so long as the engine block doesn't wrap around the filter or the engine doesn't have that protective guard around the filter.

I use the S2K filter on my '95 Civic.

If that's true you're a lot more responsible than I am with your "necessary investments" :DLOL thanks for the compliment PVR.

I've always been super particular about my vehicles. LOL even my old '88 Civic LX sedan winter beater received synthetic oil, Sunocco gas and an interior detailing regularly :)

Back when i was at parkway alot of people used to ask for it. We sell a decent amount of it. I use plain old bottled oil my self.AMSOIL is really good stuff, on par with Redline and both second only to Mobil 1 full synthetic IMO.

i always push the AT to the redlines :D

i love the sound of i-vtec :D:lol:I don't think I've ever had my Element close to redline yet, let alone heard VTEC LOL.

Merging onto the 401 up in the GTA I might have hit close to redline once but that's about it. Gotta love a nice mellow 15 minute round-trip drive to work!!!

4000 rpm and above is for emergencies only.... 2000 - 3500 is my usual acceleration.......

first pple say Honda oil is PetroCdn oil....now someone is telling me Amsoil is PetrolCdn oil too?! :?:

so lost....i'm juz using Amsoil this time...Honda oil on the shelves right now at Ontario dealerships is Petro-Canada. Next time you're in a dealership, look at a bottle of 5W20 regular or 5W20 synthetic, then look at the bottles at a Petro-Canada station. The bottles are the exact same shape and design. They even have those raised angles lines near the top and bottom around the label.

Not sure what, if anything, is going to change now that Petro-Can and Suncor merged. I'm still sticking with Mobil 1 5W20 full synth for the Element and Redline 5W30 for the Civic.

oh do you eh? i love how he made that italian hand signal and he said "f#$k you!" and the indian guy comes out and asks "do you want to eat? and no swearing!!" LOLLLL :lol:All of his skits from the one show with the Chinese guy that says BE A MAN are badass.

There is one (can't think of what show it is from) where he imitates an East Indian guy and a Chinese guy talking about the designer Lois Vutton bag. Now THAT one is funny to listen to because he has the Chinese accent on point in that one too :lol:

hapyface

03-24-2009, 10:25 PM

Generation "X" Dad

03-24-2009, 10:41 PM

wow GenXDad...one stop shop replies.... how was ur exams? done yet?

well lizzurd was kind enough to replace my Honda stuff with Amsoil.....

i envy your 15 mins drive to work.... here i either get honked to death or rear ended by stopping (required both ways w/o median) when a school bus flashes its light or an emergency vehicle passes over.No my license exam isn't until Tuesday. I do practice questions at work on my lunch break and skim my notes at home here on the areas I'm still a bit fuzzy. I don't think I'll do too bad and I'm pretty confident I'll nail it first time. I've been getting good marks on the practice exams at work that I've been doing on E-Learning so hopefully it's a sign of good things to come.

Getting your license is pretty much the pinnacle moment when you're an apprentice. Once I have that paper on the wall next to my Honda diploma, I can finally breathe a sigh of relief :rolleyes:

hapyface

03-24-2009, 11:17 PM

its wednesday right now.... either you mean next Tuesday or you missed ur exam by 12 hours!

No my license exam isn't until Tuesday. I do practice questions at work on my lunch break and skim my notes at home here on the areas I'm still a bit fuzzy. I don't think I'll do too bad and I'm pretty confident I'll nail it first time. I've been getting good marks on the practice exams at work that I've been doing on E-Learning so hopefully it's a sign of good things to come.

Getting your license is pretty much the pinnacle moment when you're an apprentice. Once I have that paper on the wall next to my Honda diploma, I can finally breathe a sigh of relief :rolleyes:

kitkat123474

03-26-2009, 07:15 PM

anyone want a gray E front bumper?

selling it for $30 obo (no rainchecks?)

a bit damaged, but still fits

or else, i'll use it to teach newbies :lol::D

finally got to clean my engine today...

spic and span, nice and clean, with a citrus smell to it :D

hapyface

03-26-2009, 08:18 PM

kitkat123474

03-26-2009, 09:08 PM

$30 for a damaged rack.... lizzurd was gonna give me a black one for less :D

anyways.... any grille i need will be in 2s.... and should be consistent in make, quality and design

liz and i thought we'll do the racks the same time as we do the foglights.

anyways

your lower grille mod has to be done asap

i'll supply you with the materials

just ask me if you need any help :D

hapyface

03-26-2009, 09:11 PM

hmmm............ why dont we do Hapyface when i do the oil change and install the fog lights? since we need to take components out.

kitkat123474

03-26-2009, 09:13 PM

hmmm............ why dont we do Hapyface when i do the oil change and install the fog lights? since we need to take components out.

whens the oil change? :D
are you gonna DIY or take it to a shop to get your oil changed

Generation "X" Dad

03-26-2009, 10:38 PM

its wednesday right now.... either you mean next Tuesday or you missed ur exam by 12 hours!Haha no I didn't miss it. At $100 a pop I'm governing my life around it :D.

I write the test in Sarnia on the 31st. Hoping I get it first try. Once I have that little gem on the wall next to my Honda Canada diploma, I'll be able to breathe finally.

kitkat123474

03-26-2009, 10:42 PM

Haha no I didn't miss it. At $100 a pop I'm governing my life around it :D.

I write the test in Sarnia on the 31st. Hoping I get it first try. Once I have that little gem on the wall next to my Honda Canada diploma, I'll be able to breathe finally.

whoa

gotta start saving if i want to buy tools and licenses and stuff :rolleyes::D

snap-on came out with something new

techwrench

its a torque/angle wrench where you set everything electronically

Generation "X" Dad

03-26-2009, 11:49 PM

whoa

gotta start saving if i want to buy tools and licenses and stuff :rolleyes::D

snap-on came out with something new

techwrench

its a torque/angle wrench where you set everything electronicallyI see you have you fallen prey to the Snap-On propaganda machine too Kit :lol: :rolleyes:.

Too much money for me. Snap-On has their place and they do make a quality products, but for the most part they have ridiculous prices on a lot of the general tools like wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, etc that techs buy from them. Paying $300-400 for a ratcheting wrench set is stupid when Sears sells the Gear Wrench line for around $79.99 and if you catch a sale, you can get it for HALF PRICE. And Gear Wrench makes them for Sears as well as Mastercraft, HUSKY, MATCO and probably Snap-On as well. For most guys starting out in the trade or who work at dealerships which see similar cars all day it is just plain dumb to spend a good house down payment on tools.

My teachers at school bought from the tool truck for specialty or precision tools, but everything else was Sears or Mastercraft.

I use Craftsman sockets and wrenches at work and have had awesome luck with them. And if something breaks, you simply go to your local Sears and get a new one no questions asked. No haggling with a tool truck guy and waiting a week or two for him to come by.

For specialty tools that I need at work, I deal with our local MATCO tool truck, or I check with the Carquest store next door to my work. Everything else is Craftsman for me. Every now and thenMastercraft Maximum if Sears doesn't have/stock it.

hapyface

03-27-2009, 12:29 AM

kiddo wants to shop expensive...what could u expect?!

kitkat...if u want sometime next week we can do the grille....but u have to find a suitable place!

kitkat123474

03-27-2009, 12:39 AM

kiddo wants to shop expensive...what could u expect?!

kitkat...if u want sometime next week we can do the grille....but u have to find a suitable place!

i nominate my garage :lol:

hapyface

03-31-2009, 05:49 PM

looks like facehapy is starting to get stonechips too..... lizzurd can u get me some blue touchup paint!

thinking the hood deflector is becoming more nec now!

lizzurd

03-31-2009, 05:52 PM

looks like facehapy is starting to get stonechips too..... lizzurd can u get me some blue touchup paint!

thinking the hood deflector is becoming more nec now!

Pen or brush type? I have both on the shelf.

hapyface

03-31-2009, 05:55 PM

i thought they were universial...like 2 in one?

lizzurd

03-31-2009, 05:59 PM

i thought they were universial...like 2 in one?

The pen has paint on one side and clear coat on the other.

hapyface

03-31-2009, 06:00 PM

interesting...so diff from the US ones...which is pen on top brush inside

well i trust ur instincts and profesionalism.....so get me what you think is better lizzurd!

hapyface

03-31-2009, 06:26 PM

kitkat....when are u getting into a car apprectenice program and become a professional mechanic?!

i see we canadian-alaskians are catch up on the number of posts.... we are now comparable to californias, nor-easters and mid-seaboard folks!

kitkat123474

04-01-2009, 08:27 PM

kitkat....when are u getting into a car apprectenice program and become a professional mechanic?!

soon.. soon... :D

hapyface

04-04-2009, 06:13 PM

who's gonna get my replacement white EOC sticker?? the last one didnt stick! and had crack marks all over!

hapyface

04-08-2009, 08:33 PM

kitkat and genxdad...u2 seem to come online and go offline at the same time...are u2 co-ordinated?

Generation "X" Dad

04-08-2009, 08:54 PM

I don't know when Kit comes on here so it's purely coincidental :lol:.

Now that I can finally breathe easy and don't have to study like crazy anymore, I might actually be able to come online more :D.

hapyface

04-08-2009, 08:59 PM

hahahah and make Canada the highest ranking discussion area on EOC

kitkat123474

04-09-2009, 12:41 AM

hahahah and make Canada the highest ranking discussion area on EOC

i'm on two forums right this minute. this, and http://www.jdmrides.ca

as for the replacement sticker, i'll have to get that for you at the end of the month

i'm paying for my membership on JDMR and getting my foglights and foglight switch at the middle of this month

jtispoindexter

05-22-2009, 05:32 PM

hapyface

05-22-2009, 07:03 PM

yeah the newer model Es run on a negative trigger (whatever that means) where most vehicles operate under positive trigger. having said that it would mean DRL units wont work on your headlights....instead it will require some relay this and that.... the workaround it is to route the DRL to fog lights...which was what i did.

Generation "X" Dad

05-23-2009, 12:15 PM

don't know if it is allowed , but

Unabashed plug for Orangeville Honda , http://www.orangevillehonda.com/en/index.spy

I approached the dealer with my DRLs need after importing a US model and he informed me that they could do the work , but an independent electronics shop in town could do it easier and quicker , an Honest Dealer.... so I ordered my mats front and rear , and thanked the service manager ... My wife has been a steady customer for her civic since 2001 , it pays to have a good relationship with the dealer ... ;-) he stated the DRL kits are tough to install on the newer units

The shop recommended is
Sounder Light in Orangeville ,A few guys from Orangeville Honda were in the Honda Program with me at Centennial College. Good guys.

If you get the chance, ask if Stephen Corriveau can work on your vehicle if possible, and tell him Steve from Honda House said hello :D. He's a friend of mine who used to live in Chatham here and seeing as how picky I am about my vehicles, he's one of the very few guys in this world I'd trust to work on mine for me.

yeah the newer model Es run on a negative trigger (whatever that means) where most vehicles operate under positive trigger. having said that it would mean DRL units wont work on your headlights....instead it will require some relay this and that.... the workaround it is to route the DRL to fog lights...which was what i did.I've seen U.S. models with the DRL wired up to the signal lights so they are on steady when not signaling like the Chrysler mini-vans.

So long as the light is bright and visible during the daytime and comes on whenever the vehicle is running, you can hook it to either the headlights, signal lights or fog lights and still be legal.

hapyface

05-23-2009, 06:56 PM

I've seen U.S. models with the DRL wired up to the signal lights so they are on steady when not signaling like the Chrysler mini-vans.

So long as the light is bright and visible during the daytime and comes on whenever the vehicle is running, you can hook it to either the headlights, signal lights or fog lights and still be legal.

Yup that is what CMVSS requires...... still a pain to wire....and those Canadian Tire people arnt that smart to do DRL wiring.... anyways made a mess on 2 DRL units.

Speaking of crappy tire.... why are so closed so early and open so late? its a summer gardening weekend and you'd think they would open later so people can drop by in the evening time to pick up missing items for their gardens

jtispoindexter

05-25-2009, 06:56 PM

DRLs done , now I suspect I need the stickers under the hood that outline in french and english stuff on the SRS system , on the frame by the rad ... I will swap the visors just in case a photo of the stickers , print on Avery labels affix , and done ... I am ready for the close up , lighting ... work it , work it ...

hapyface

05-26-2009, 10:52 AM

huh? the SRS label is all you need and its stuck underneath the hood....so why are u still swapping the visors???? the canadian visor has a few courtesty safety messages....thats all.... not required by law

jtispoindexter

05-26-2009, 12:21 PM

Yes , I found someone who will do it all for me , the SRS maintenance in french , all included with the RIV inspection... I don't suspect I will ever have a technician who is french speaking only work on my E , but I do not want to discriminate from those dedicated individuals. I found that the service interval for VW airbag systems in 9 years. I would imagine Hondas is similar...:)

lizzurd

06-28-2009, 01:52 PM

I just made it back from a nice day out with the family. We followed hwy 2 out to coburg anad had lunch on the beach. Made it back to the 401 just as the rain started.

hapyface

06-28-2009, 09:30 PM

we'd been told to keep the convo on topic :-( but i will be naughty again!!! :D

great that u had a nice sunday lizzurd..... i could have done some yard work today but ended up not because of the potential storms

yesterday was nightmarish for me.... neighbour's guest threw garbage in my bin (and of course in this garbage strike with no end in sight i am quite uptight abt the capacity).... told his guest to dispose properly and neighbour got a ticked off, almost punched me in the face and swore/cussed..... seriously... what a day..... and what a neighbour.......

back to today.... have to say i've tried the BESSSTTT ribs ever in Vaughan! it was recommended by The Globe and Mail......so got to do an EOC trip out there!

PVR

06-29-2009, 01:51 PM

It's cherry season in the Okanagan, if anyone's interested.

:)

Our son brought us about 10 lbs of them fresh off one of the trees in his yard yesterday.

lizzurd

06-29-2009, 02:03 PM

I moved this over to the off-topic thread......

we'd been told to keep the convo on topic :-( but i will be naughty again!!! :D

great that u had a nice sunday lizzurd..... i could have done some yard work today but ended up not because of the potential storms

yesterday was nightmarish for me.... neighbour's guest threw garbage in my bin (and of course in this garbage strike with no end in sight i am quite uptight abt the capacity).... told his guest to dispose properly and neighbour got a ticked off, almost punched me in the face and swore/cussed..... seriously... what a day..... and what a neighbour.......

back to today.... have to say i've tried the BESSSTTT ribs ever in Vaughan! it was recommended by The Globe and Mail......so got to do an EOC trip out there!

hapyface

06-29-2009, 06:21 PM

I hear Timmies is becoming more Canadian-eh???!!!!

Financially :lol:

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/658256

hapyface

07-08-2009, 03:12 AM

Had a great road / work trip through the Niagara peninsula and Buffalo yesterday!!!! Well today my work will take me up north to cottage country!

bought 3 lbs of cherries and 2 cartons of strawberries....not to mention locally made grape juice / apple cider.....

I love the drives! (except 401, 403, QEW etc...)

kitkat123474

07-08-2009, 07:10 PM

went to a shop called abstrakt motion to talk more about my sponsership. had a mcGangBang (Double cheese Burger + junior chicken sandwich COMBINED) and couple smokes in the shop..... pretty sweet stuff. you guys gotta come check them out, tell them that kitkat sent you. ;-) they got a 600+ HP civic there too!! :D

hapyface

07-09-2009, 10:28 PM

Gives police another reason to impound cars

lizzurd

07-09-2009, 10:38 PM

you guys gotta come check them out, tell them that kitkat sent you. :D

An address or general location would be helpfull.:rolleyes:

I have Pur auto across my parking lot.....They have a LS2 powered RX7 among other cars.

Hopped up Civics dont do anything for me.A 600HP engine in a Civic does even less for me.

If you want to talk Hemi.....Not the latest "hemi" i mean a real Hemi.....

kitkat123474

07-10-2009, 05:14 AM

An address or general location would be helpfull.:rolleyes:

I have Pur auto across my parking lot.....They have a LS2 powered RX7 among other cars.

Hopped up Civics dont do anything for me.A 600HP engine in a Civic does even less for me.

If you want to talk Hemi.....Not the latest "hemi" i mean a real Hemi.....

156 Bullock, Unit 16. :D pur auto is an ok big shop. they specialize in HKS brands and such, not much variety when you step in. TEKNOTIK < pur auto < option JDM

lizzurd

07-20-2009, 08:08 AM

My weekend was interesting to say the least. We went to a BBQ saturday night and it p****d down rain for a couple hours. Just before dinner was served my wife passes me a cup and tells me to taste it. When i asked what it was she told me to just drink it. I had an i idea of what it might be....but i tried it anyways.

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Yep.....It was goats head soup.

hapyface

07-20-2009, 08:31 AM

yum yum..... my life....paper work after paper work!

lizzurd

07-20-2009, 08:36 AM

yum yum..... my life....paper work after paper work!

Sounds familiar...I should take a picture of the stack on my desk.

hapyface

07-20-2009, 01:01 PM

make sure u omit private and confidential stuff! :lol:

hapyface

08-13-2009, 09:22 PM

Generation "X" Dad

08-14-2009, 02:18 PM

Okay it only applies to certain percentage of the population....so dont take it offensively! but why are Ontario drivers so dumb???

One wanted to rear end me when waiting for the bus several cars in front to pick-up/drop off passengers and another idiot tried to overtake some bicycles on a country road curvature with limited sight distance / shoulder space and almost hit me head on.I felt the same way when I was living in Scarlem. Seemed like everyone was out for blood and it was like a death race on the 401 and most of the major urban arteries than run parallel or intersect each other (Markham, Lawrence, Eglington, Warden, etc.). Downtown I found it more congested but not quite as bad because in many places it's hard for people to get up to higher speeds due to the lights, traffic, street placements, etc.

I didn't drive in the GTA until my last two months of the AHAP program that was long enough.What surprised me the most was no matter how ****ty a driver, most always seemed to respect pedestrians even if they weren't crossing at a designated crossing area, which struck me as odd for a city like Toronto.

lizzurd

08-14-2009, 02:25 PM

make sure u omit private and confidential stuff! :lol:

The only confidential stuff i keep is your Visa number........

Here is my happy little corner of the world. This is before the 3 mountains of paperwork magically appeared.

redwing blackbird

08-14-2009, 03:27 PM

whoot... I am off to Vancouver and Whistler for 5 days. Gratis courtesy of work. I haven't been to BC for almost 10 years so really excited.

hapyface

08-14-2009, 03:36 PM

Its almost like that episode of family guy where people in quahog RI had to rush home because the New Yorkers will flood their streets with traffic to see the fall leaves change color..

Lizzurd sorry for being sooooooo rude today with my BB and thanks for the engine oil.

GenXDad I will take your advice to do an oil change this time but a biggie service at 5000 miles later? You sure 15000 miles no biggish service?

PVR

08-14-2009, 04:19 PM

whoot... I am off to Vancouver and Whistler for 5 days. Gratis courtesy of work. I haven't been to BC for almost 10 years so really excited.

Have a great trip. Our weather has improved a lot (lower temps and some rain in the last few days so the fire risk has been greatly reduced) so you won't have any restrictions on going out in the woods.

I am off to Rossland in the Kootenays next week to ride the Seven Summits Trail (http://www.imba.com/epics/seven_summits.html).

lizzurd

08-14-2009, 04:23 PM

Lizzurd sorry for being sooooooo rude today with my BB and thanks for the engine oil.

G

No worries Bernie....I needed a welcome distraction from the 50 calls today from Honda.

hapyface

08-14-2009, 06:03 PM

Have a great trip. Our weather has improved a lot (lower temps and some rain in the last few days so the fire risk has been greatly reduced) so you won't have any restrictions on going out in the woods.

I am off to Rossland in the Kootenays next week to ride the Seven Summits Trail (http://www.imba.com/epics/seven_summits.html).

i hear there is a great all u can eat spaghetti n meatballs place in downtown Trail

hapyface

08-14-2009, 06:04 PM

No worries Bernie....I needed a welcome distraction from the 50 calls today from Honda.

we have a plan to throw all our blackberries and computers into the Welland Canal....u are more than welcomed to join!

lizzurd

08-17-2009, 05:23 PM

we have a plan to throw all our blackberries and computers into the Welland Canal....u are more than welcomed to join!

My crackberry does not ring very much. Mostly my wife if i am not at my desk.

lizzurd

08-17-2009, 05:25 PM

Sunday we spent what felt like the hottest day of the summer so far at Ontario place so Jordan could see Thomas The Train.

Once the show was over i was more than happy to get my tail out of there and get back into the cool a/c.

lizzurd

08-22-2009, 08:21 AM

Woooooohoooooooooo.........A few more hours and i am on vacation.

My first time off since last december.

My office has been hotter than **** all week.

It will be nice spending the week at home with my son.

hapyface

08-22-2009, 10:49 AM

great to know your on holiday.....i cant wait for mine...to Victoria and Montreal...... but that will be in Sept......

when are u gonna work on the fog lights with me>

lizzurd

08-24-2009, 03:21 PM

great to know your on holiday.....i cant wait for mine...to Victoria and Montreal...... but that will be in Sept......

when are u gonna work on the fog lights with me>

Some day when i actually have some free time on my hands.

hapyface

08-24-2009, 07:20 PM

Some day over the rainbow when skies are blue...... some day when hapyface will offer u a beer and timmies too!

guess the song!

PVR

08-24-2009, 10:21 PM

i hear there is a great all u can eat spaghetti n meatballs place in downtown Trail

:) Yeah, its called the Colander. Didn't make it there this time, one of my buddies that I ride with is Italian and we ate at his mother's in Rossland.

The ride was FANTASTIC btw! Highly recommended if you are a mountain biker and want a challenge.

hapyface

08-25-2009, 02:36 PM

until they can reduce the airfares to castlegar!

PVR

08-26-2009, 01:20 PM

Here's a pic or two from the Seven Summits hapy, just so you miss B.C. more!

:D

hapyface

08-27-2009, 06:18 PM

thanks for rubbing salt to my wound!

hapyface

09-07-2009, 02:44 AM

well currently in Victoria BC with my wife..... went up to Tofino yest with wife and some friends..... its great...we wanna stay and not go back east....

kitkat123474

09-07-2009, 12:31 PM

lizzurd

09-07-2009, 01:32 PM

PVR

09-07-2009, 02:20 PM

I don't know what is worse....admitting to doing something stupid....or bragging about on an online forum.

Street racing as it is called under the new law is stupid and very dangerous. My first instict was to delete this post. My friends and family travel on the same roads that you claim to be speeding on. I honestly hope that the next time you decide to take a nice little 180kph cruise that someone calls the OPP on your ass.Think about how good your E will be able to make an emergency lane change if someone was to pull out in front of you at those speeds.

+1 I would be especially worried given his age and obvious lack of sense.

hapyface

09-07-2009, 10:50 PM

should i forward this to the OPP or Crime Stoppers?

well well had a great long weekend on van isl...... sooo dont wanna go back....missed my times working out there! :(

lizzurd

09-08-2009, 08:38 PM

should i forward this to the OPP or Crime Stoppers?

! :(

No need to Bernie....I said what i wanted to say and hope i gave our young friend something to think about.

I was young once and did some stupid stuff....Thankfully all these years later i am still here to remember it all.

hapyface

09-12-2009, 10:44 PM

so.... an orange E killed a jogger this morning in Niagara region... my condolences to the jogger

hapyface

12-14-2009, 07:14 AM

Ohh great!!!!!!!!!!!! The hood deflector came down with the snow/ice storm! :x

Generation "X" Dad

12-14-2009, 12:00 PM

so last night with my friends, while traveling from our photoshoot in downtown, we decided to travel back home (we live around the markham area), we were met with a lexus is300 traveling real fast........... my friend tried to box him in but he got away once the 2 lane split merged with the 4.................

around the 404 and finch area, he flew past me :shock:

i said !@#$ it, and went to go chase that guy....

so from that point on......... my car topped off at 180......... i could feel the engine stutter, but he was wayyy behind me.............

from the off ramp onto highway 7, he came real fast, but that didn't stop me... hit the turn at 140, pull it back in 2nd low gear (mine is an at) drops the speed till 60, then brake. came to a stop at the intersection, for him, he was turning westbound onto highway 7, while we headed east to carry on with our shoots :)great night last night was....I'm sorry Kit but after this post and others I have read, I politely decline the Blue Mtn offer to ride up. Hate to sound harsh here and I'm sorry if I do my friend but I am enjoying my nice clean driving record right now and it seems to me that you make too many poor decisions while driving for me to feel comfortable around. I'll be happy to let you know in advance when I will be on the mountain via email or text and I'll be happy to meet you at the lift or somewhere in The Village, but driving up with you is not something I really feel safe doing after reading this.

Yes I have done some stupid things with my Civic in the past and I am not saying I've been perfect all my life. I have the past driving record to prove I liked speed myself. I also know the feeling when someone flies past you and for some reason there's this instinct to follow suit, as if they have telepathically called you on by flying past. Again, I'm not saying I'm perfect but NEVER have I deliberately tried to "box someone in" traveling at a high rate of speed on the highway. I have however watched someone in the past almost put his car under the back wheels of a transport trailer trying to outrun me and it is probably one of the scariest feelings I have felt in my life for something that wasn't even happening to me.

Tough love here...if he's travelling fast, get the **** out of the way. Period. Let him follow through and don't get involved, let alone intentionally try to pinch him with your vehicles.

I don't know what is worse....admitting to doing something stupid....or bragging about on an online forum.

Street racing as it is called under the new law is stupid and very dangerous. My first instict was to delete this post. My friends and family travel on the same roads that you claim to be speeding on. I honestly hope that the next time you decide to take a nice little 180kph cruise that someone calls the OPP on your ass.Think about how good your E will be able to make an emergency lane change if someone was to pull out in front of you at those speeds.Agreed.

No need to Bernie....I said what i wanted to say and hope i gave our young friend something to think about.

I was young once and did some stupid stuff....Thankfully all these years later i am still here to remember it all.Again, same with me but the fact that there was a deliberate motive within the actions really irks me.

Ohh great!!!!!!!!!!!! The hood deflector came down with the snow/ice storm! :xIt fell off the vehicle Bernie?

Generation "X" Dad

12-14-2009, 12:18 PM

so.... an orange E killed a jogger this morning in Niagara region... my condolences to the joggerJust found this now Bernie:

Jogger killed in West Lincoln collision (http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1751188)

Driver was a 66-yr old woman, charged with criminal negligence causing death, dangerous operation of a motor vehicle causing death, and breach of undertaking and driving with a suspended license.

I wonder if her having a suspended license had anything to do with the seniors driving regulations and the mandatory testing?

lizzurd

12-14-2009, 12:37 PM

Just found this now Bernie:

Jogger killed in West Lincoln collision (http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1751188)

Driver was a 66-yr old woman, charged with criminal negligence causing death, dangerous operation of a motor vehicle causing death, and breach of undertaking and driving with a suspended license.

I wonder if her having a suspended license had anything to do with the seniors driving regulations and the mandatory testing?

Is there manditory testing? My father drove until just after he truned 72 last year....I don't recall him having to take a retest.

Generation "X" Dad

12-14-2009, 12:43 PM

Is there manditory testing? My father drove until just after he truned 72 last year....I don't recall him having to take a retest.I'm not sure. LOL maybe I'm just starting rumours here.

I know there's something where after people reach a certain age they have to be tested every year but 66 does strike me as a bit young. My Opa had to re-test every year at a certain point because eventually he kept failing and couldn't drive anymore. I'd have to ask my mom for sure as to the details because he passed away over 6 yrs ago but I know he had to do a written and road test and there came a point in time where he could no longer drive. It was not long after that he became ill and was unable to drive anyways.

I think there might just be more to the suspended license part of the equation.

Tim Vance

12-14-2009, 08:16 PM

Commercial (AZ) drivers are required to take annual tests over age 65, the following applies to everyone else:

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/senior/index.shtml

What is the Senior Driver Renewal Program?

The Senior Driver Renewal Program requires that senior drivers, aged 80 years and over, pay the applicable licensing fee, complete a vision test and a knowledge test and take part in a group education session every two years. A small number of drivers may also be asked to take a road test to have their in-car skills assessed.
Why are seniors required to attend a Group Education Session?

This renewal process will help keep seniors mobile and independent longer, while ensuring that unsafe drivers are identified and appropriate actions taken.
While it is true that senior drivers are involved in fewer collisions compared to younger drivers, it is also true that they are involved in a larger number of collisions compared to the number of kilometres they drive. Some senior drivers have said that an annual road test was very stressful for them. Research and a pilot study conducted in Ontario have shown that a well-developed education session may improve senior drivers' awareness of potential traffic hazards and help them drive more defensively.
How does the program support road safety?

With the Senior Driver Renewal Program, older drivers may be required to complete four components: the knowledge and vision tests, the group education session, and a road test if required.
The Group Education Session will:

give drivers information on driving
give them the tools to assess how well they are driving
outline changes which drivers can make to continue to drive safely

Senior drivers will be able to improve their driving performance. As well, the program will be able to more quickly identify drivers who are at greater risk of being in a collision. Most senior drivers will not be required to take a road test.
Who is required to take a road test?

All drivers are assessed by a trained counsellor. Drivers who have indications that they may pose a road safety risk will be required to take a road test. The counsellor at your Group Education Session will discuss this with you.

Tim Vance

12-14-2009, 08:43 PM

Reading back thru the previous posts, it reminded me that we had a similar incident this past summer while driving through Utah...

It was the middle of the day, and Elaine and I were traveling with her parents on our way to Salt Lake City. I was driving, and the roads were fairly busy.

I was driving along on cruise control, and would drive in the right lane, and pull into the left lane to pass slower vehicles, then go back into the right lane. I didn't think anything about it, as this is how I usually drive on the highway. Anyway, we were passed by a bunch of 'kids' in a BMW, who pulled in front of me, then slowed down. I didn't see anyone coming up behind me, so I signaled, and pulled out to pass (while still having the cruise control on).

Well, I guess they got a bit pissed at a bunch of 'old' people passing them in a mini van, because as I was almost past them, they sped up. There was another vehicle in the lane ahead of me (like most States I've been in, there are a large percentage of drivers who stay in the left lane, so you have to wait for a gap, and pass them on the right...) and I was running out of space. So these morons slow down as I do, staying a bit ahead of me, and not allowing me to change lanes.

I guess their buddies in the Lexus SUV had caught up to us by then, because I now have another vehicle right on my backside, REALLY close, and I'm boxed in. I have no idea who these guys are, and it's obvious that I have an out of State plate, but I don't know if it's a bunch of kids playing around, or what...

Tapping on the brakes doesn't get the guy behind me to back off, and the guy in front of me seems oblivious, so I lean on the horn, and flash the lights. He looks in the mirror and hits his brakes. There was enough room, and I was watching, so that I kind of expected it, but the BMW beside me didn't, so he goes ahead enough that I can now change back to the right lane, but now I have one in front, and one beside me. We are all thinking what the hell is going on here???

So I got on the phone and called 911. I guess they saw me, and all took off ahead of us I got enough of their plates and vehicle descriptions, and gave the police all my info, so I didn't think about it again...

About an hour up the road, 3 cruisers had them pulled over in a rest area.

We kept on driving...I figured I gave them enough info to get hold of me if they needed to...

Generation "X" Dad

12-14-2009, 09:00 PM

Good info Tim, thanks!!!!

Guess it must have been suspended for other reasons.

Generation "X" Dad

12-14-2009, 09:14 PM

kitkat123474

12-15-2009, 12:45 AM

hapyface

12-15-2009, 08:25 AM

in my industry...we are trained when / how to notify the police of incidents that affects the safety and well-being of the public. all i could say is last time my couz acted like a j***a** - now has a stack of tickets, dermit points and some lawsuits to deal with.

now...GenXDad, Tim, Lizzurd - i am not a skiier...but if we wanna do an ice wine tasting in Niagara and stay overnight there (because were boozed up), i dont mind being D/D. i dont mind making it family friendly......

cant wait for the DriveTest strike to be over, so I could do my BZ again. With BZ we do re-writes every 5 years and then annual testing I believe 65 and above on annual basis. Not that I wil drive a bus again....

Tim Vance

12-15-2009, 02:50 PM

too bad this was in the states. if this was in canada, i'd slam my brakes as hard as i can, and watch them rear end my bumper... then get as much money from them as possible... or call the cops for "following too close"

You have much to learn grasshopper....

'if' I had done this anywhere, I would be charged with dangerous driving! My word against their's and their 'witnesses' are in the vehicle beside me, helping to 'box' me in. Hitting the brakes for no reason is a very dumb thing to do, and is considered an aggressive act under the Highway Traffic Act.

Have you every tried to control a vehicle slamming on the brakes at 70 mph??
I have, and I train others how to do it. IF a tire doesn't blow, and IF the brakes grab equally (they rarely do with that type of braking), then I can be pretty sure of only taking out the vehicle behind me - and I mean taking him out, becasue he will either hit me doing 70 mph, or drive under me as I brake - I'm pretty sure at least 2 or 3 of the vehicles behind him will also not have enough time to stop...

So I would be looking at causing a multi vehicle accident many miles from home....
hmmm. Lose my license, my insurance, and everything I own, cause guaranteed I'd be sued, and they can take future earnings too...IF I and my family survive the accident.

No grasshopper, the smartest thing you can do when testosterone starts to boil, is to back off, and let someone else take the hit for being stupid....

Tim Vance

12-15-2009, 02:53 PM

now...GenXDad, Tim, Lizzurd - i am not a skiier...but if we wanna do an ice wine tasting in Niagara and stay overnight there (because were boozed up), i dont mind being D/D. i dont mind making it family friendly.....
We don't ski either (and we used to live in Collingwood) so wouldn't drive 3 hours that way anyway...

We're always open to visit with anyone willing to make the trip out this way...lol

Once we finally get the basement fixed, we can look at having a few people over...

hapyface

12-15-2009, 07:04 PM

i will defintely make a trip to niagara region in january.

have some work to do down there and also to pick up my dyson dc28 animal vacum cleaner in buffalo.... bought it for $517 (NYS taxes incl)... here in Canada it retails for $699.

lizzurd / genxdad..... care to come to niagara region.... for the icewine festival and prob some touristy evening along clifton hill? or tim's thai food?

i hear fieldings (at mountain view) has a great picnic place.... too bad too cold.... but the fresh made grape juice there are great!

i love niagara.... toronto's natural backyard :D

kitkat....my only comment for u is....mature up....and stop promoting or boast about illegal behaviours.....

Generation "X" Dad

12-17-2009, 11:51 AM

We don't ski either (and we used to live in Collingwood) so wouldn't drive 3 hours that way anyway...

We're always open to visit with anyone willing to make the trip out this way...lol

Once we finally get the basement fixed, we can look at having a few people over...

i will defintely make a trip to niagara region in january.

have some work to do down there and also to pick up my dyson dc28 animal vacum cleaner in buffalo.... bought it for $517 (NYS taxes incl)... here in Canada it retails for $699.

lizzurd / genxdad..... care to come to niagara region.... for the icewine festival and prob some touristy evening along clifton hill? or tim's thai food?

i hear fieldings (at mountain view) has a great picnic place.... too bad too cold.... but the fresh made grape juice there are great!

i love niagara.... toronto's natural backyard :D

kitkat....my only comment for u is....mature up....and stop promoting or boast about illegal behaviours.....Keep me posted guys on a date and time when you might meet up and I'll see what I can do. If I don't have my daughter and I can afford it, I'd love to meet up for food and drinks.

Tim Vance

12-17-2009, 02:13 PM

We're always open to host a get together.... just let us know when

hapyface

12-17-2009, 03:05 PM

make sure its a saturday.... we know there is 1 less car on the road! :lol:

lizzurd

12-17-2009, 07:55 PM

We're always open to host a get together.... just let us know when

Tim one of these days we will get out to see you.

lizzurd

12-17-2009, 08:02 PM

First of all let me say most of my comments in this thread are as myself not as a mod.

I did not set out to create a lynch mob for our friend kitkat...Just wanted to smack him on the head a little.

Honestly i don't care what he does on the roads. As long as it is miles away from my family and friends. (Yes i do care....I see stupid crap on the roads every day and it is starting to scare the crap out of me daily).

I am not saying i am perfect. When i was younger i did some pretty stupid crap in a car. But i sure as hell didn't brag about it.

Tim said it best....

You have much to learn grasshopper....

'if' I had done this anywhere, I would be charged with dangerous driving! My word against their's and their 'witnesses' are in the vehicle beside me, helping to 'box' me in. Hitting the brakes for no reason is a very dumb thing to do, and is considered an aggressive act under the Highway Traffic Act.

Have you every tried to control a vehicle slamming on the brakes at 70 mph??
I have, and I train others how to do it. IF a tire doesn't blow, and IF the brakes grab equally (they rarely do with that type of braking), then I can be pretty sure of only taking out the vehicle behind me - and I mean taking him out, becasue he will either hit me doing 70 mph, or drive under me as I brake - I'm pretty sure at least 2 or 3 of the vehicles behind him will also not have enough time to stop...

So I would be looking at causing a multi vehicle accident many miles from home....
hmmm. Lose my license, my insurance, and everything I own, cause guaranteed I'd be sued, and they can take future earnings too...IF I and my family survive the accident.

No grasshopper, the smartest thing you can do when testosterone starts to boil, is to back off, and let someone else take the hit for being stupid....

I said what i had to say and have finished with this topic.

Generation "X" Dad

12-17-2009, 09:11 PM

lizzurd

12-21-2009, 06:52 PM

First official day of winter is here and no real snow to talk about.

I am not a happy camper.

It better snow thursday night.

Generation "X" Dad

12-22-2009, 07:50 PM

First official day of winter is here and no real snow to talk about.

I am not a happy camper.

It better snow thursday night.They're talking RAIN for Christmas Day down here Adrian :-(

lizzurd

12-22-2009, 08:05 PM

They're talking RAIN for Christmas Day down here Adrian :-(

My holidays start on the 24th. I don't go back until january 4th. I am hoping for a good dumping of snow in between. I have 200 winter tires left to move. I want to be at less than a hunder by the time i get back.

Generation "X" Dad

12-22-2009, 08:10 PM

My holidays start on the 24th. I don't go back until january 4th. I am hoping for a good dumping of snow in between. I have 200 winter tires left to move. I want to be at less than a hunder by the time i get back.We're done at noon on the 24th and we dont' come back again until the 29th. We work a full day on the 29th and 30th and then from 8am-3pm on the 31st then we're off til the following Monday.

I know we have a whole whack of winter tires in our basement storage room as well and piles of steel wheels too. However, my work is VERY conservative and the campaigns to sell things in general around there seem to come from the school of IF SOMEONE COMES IN TO ASK FOR THEM, THEN MAYBE :twisted:.

hapyface

12-22-2009, 08:30 PM

let me break the bad news :evil:

Friday Rain mixed with snow. Low minus 1. High plus 5.

hapyface

12-27-2009, 08:43 AM

OMG.... Day 1 and I saw an E in downtown Tokyo!

took pics of it...will post later.

kitkat123474

01-07-2010, 01:25 PM

i KNEW i was getting flamed for that post.....

i KNEW it LOL

but yes tim, i do understand your point. but, the post that you quoted was only meant for a joke. anyone in their right of mind would not, like you said, slam on their brakes for no apparent reason.

i'm fully aware guys....

lizzurd

01-07-2010, 05:51 PM

To be honest i am not sure that anyone that had read post #136 would have seen it as a joke.I sure didn't.

i KNEW i was getting flamed for that post.....

i KNEW it LOL

but yes tim, i do understand your point. but, the post that you quoted was only meant for a joke. anyone in their right of mind would not, like you said, slam on their brakes for no apparent reason.

i'm fully aware guys....

hapyface

01-07-2010, 09:48 PM

here we go again :oops:

hapyface

05-01-2010, 11:17 AM

*vent* for those wanting to know why insurance rates are so high in toronto, let me paint u a little picture....

i was car #3 approaching a 4-way stop sign for a left turn and car #4 (to my left and going straight) came after me..... cars #1, 2 made their moves so it was my turn... guess what.... car #4 honked and accelerated straight into my path inside the intersection thinking he has the full right of way.....

1. #3 was before #4
2. his right side is me.....rule of thumb for simultaneous approach (yield right of way)

do people even know the rules of the road these days? sad part...it almost happens once or twice a month!

*end of vent*

lizzurd

05-01-2010, 11:22 AM

Let me guess you were in Scarborough when it happened?

Generation "X" Dad

05-01-2010, 11:33 AM

I agree Bernie. It sucks in town here when traffic lights go out and the intersection is to be assumed a four-way stop. People have no clue what to do, and I hate it because I know it's my turn to go but I wait because 99.99% of the time there's always some douche who just wants to barge at will.

I'd say it's worth riding a bike to avoid the hassle but people don't give two poops about cyclists either so you can't win :twisted:.

lizzurd

05-01-2010, 11:39 AM

The car vs bike argument is a no win for anyone involved. For every asshat in a car there is one more on a bike. .

News flash time:

Red Lights and Stop Signs Apply to Cyclists Too.

I can't tell you how many times i have stopped at a red and when i was ready to make a legal right hand turn some ass hat on a bike shoots out of no where,ignores the light and hangs a left in front of me to cross the road just as i am starting to turn.....And if i had hit him/her.....Who would have been at fault?

Generation "X" Dad

05-01-2010, 11:56 AM

I agree with you Adrian. I know unless the road is empty, I'm one of the cyclists being made fun of for pressing the cross button at intersections.

In defense of cyclists, motorists seem to be VERY impatient when it comes to us. One day I was out biking with Adia in the Chariot (for those who don't know what a Chariot is, this is mine: http://www.chariotcarriers.com/english/html/cabriolet.php). It was broad daylight and the Chariot has 3M reflective striping, reflectors and bright orange high-visibility flag up whenever Adia is in it. I was crossing an intersection with a green light, no advance green and the WALK symbol (again, I'm the geek who actually presses the button every time when I have Adia in the Chariot) and started out into the intersection.

At the moment my bike crossed the halfway point, putting Adia about 1/3 of the way into the intersection, an oncoming Pontiac Grand Prix came up to the intersection to turn left (cross our path) and when the car oncoming to him passed through he went to turn left and basically stopped right to the left of me. If I put my foot out I could have touched his front bumper. He kept inching forward as I kept moving and waved his hands up in the air as if to say HOLY BUDDY LET'S GO!!!!! I looked at him, shot him the finger and and pointed up at the light. As soon as the Chariot was clear of the front of him he went through quick but slowed down as if he was going to come back around to me.

When I reached the sidewalk on the other side I turned around to face him and he sped off.

It's guys like that who ruin it for other motorists.

lizzurd

05-01-2010, 12:02 PM

I haven't had time (or made time) to ride in a few years. When i did i always stuck with the trails along the Don Valley and the lakeshore....Very little traffic to deal with.

Generation "X" Dad

05-01-2010, 12:14 PM

For two years prior to purchasing the Element, my Specialized Crossroads and Chariot was Adia and I's "car" :grin:.

I have the Honda hitch and a Swagman dual-bike hitch rack for the Element now so I can go to London more often to ride the trails. I just go to Fanshawe Conservation Area which has picnic area and playgrounds as well as 22kms of trails around Fanshawe Lake.

Are the trails paved or dirt? Maybe when I'm up in the area this summer I'll bring my GIANT and check them out.

lizzurd

05-01-2010, 12:23 PM

Generation "X" Dad

05-01-2010, 12:32 PM

With the exception of a few components that are different on mine and the fact that I have V-brakes, Below is basically my bike, a 2002 GIANT NRS AIR

I previously had a GIANT ATX 970 and when I puked the frame on it dirt jumping, I was able to get a discounted new '02 NRS AIR frame. I ended up customizing it with my own choice of parts: MAVIC CrossRide wheels for trails, MAVIC CrossRoc wheels for city, MANITOU forks, TRUVATIV crankset, Ritchey Comp Mtn (same as Shimano SPD-959) pedals, Race Face bar and stem, Shimano XTR brakes and derailleurs and Specialized Carbon/Ti seat.

It's a small frame (16.5) and I find I need one with a bit more spread to the ****pit. Seeing as how used bikes depreciate exponentially worse than cars do (my bike cost me around $4500 to build and I'd be lucky to get $1000 for it now) instead of buying a new medium frame GIANT I'm going to just replace the stem with a longer one, go from a flat to a riser bar and install on off-set seatpost.

GIANT's new Contact lineup of components is around $120 for all three items and will give me more flexibility to change my positioning on the bike.

Generation "X" Dad

05-01-2010, 12:40 PM

All paved. They start at Edwards Gardens at Leslie and Lawrence and run right down to the lake.

Here is a pdf map of the Toronto bike trails.

http://www.toronto.ca/cycling/map/index.htmWhoah. That's a busy map :shock:.

I think I'm just going to go with a Garmin Edge® 705 (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=160&pID=10885) :razz:

lizzurd

05-01-2010, 12:57 PM

Whoah. That's a busy map :shock:.

I think I'm just going to go with a Garmin Edge® 705 (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=160&pID=10885) :razz:

Just keep heading south until you hit water.

Generation "X" Dad

05-01-2010, 01:09 PM

Just keep heading south until you hit water.Haha I was a boy scout so I think I can figure that much out ;-) :razz:.

I'd love to bring Adia and the Chariot up there and go for a ride this summer along the waterfront. Maybe have a picnic or something or even co-ordinate it with an EOC meet as well.

hapyface

05-01-2010, 04:01 PM

Let me guess you were in Scarborough when it happened?

geeez u are smart....where else would u find such drivers....like ones dont even know u have to stop for school buses with red lights flashing :lol:

one of my operations supervisors call them scarb-kamakazies.... well if it hapened it would be the blueE...... sounds a lil cursed eh folks?

in canada u cannot get lost without a gps..... u either hit a fence/water (south), water (east/west) ior continue (north) u will hit the tree line where u will see broad leaf trees being replaced by cedars/pines

now...if u ended up going around in circles............

Generation "X" Dad

05-01-2010, 04:59 PM

geeez u are smart....where else would u find such drivers....like ones dont even know u have to stop for school buses with red lights flashing :lol:

one of my operations supervisors call them scarb-kamakazies.... well if it hapened it would be the blueE...... sounds a lil cursed eh folks?...I lived in the bumhole of Toronto for eight months and two of those months I was driving there. Worst two months ever. The other six I took the TTC and aside from the bit of planning that went into getting places (I basically had to learn the ins and outs of the TTC in the first week or so I was there) once you had everything down and provided all you needed to bring with you was yourself and carry-on items, it was a breeze getting places and FAR less stressful that driving.

Only positive point I can say to driving in Toronto is outside of the congested downtown and other downtown-esque areas, you can get places fairly quick during the non-busy times with a vehicle compared to the bus. However, downtown travelling is worth either the $2.75 per trip, $35/wk or $110/mo cost to leave all the bullpoop in the hands of a TTC operator :-D.

Oh and by the way Bernie, try not to wreck Blue. I still want to trade headlights :-).

hapyface

05-01-2010, 08:23 PM

Oh and by the way Bernie, try not to wreck Blue. I still want to trade headlights :-).

will try not to....very soon i will go get those reflective strips... like those unmarked police cars..... :lol::lol::lol:

hapyface

05-02-2010, 07:51 AM

The car vs bike argument is a no win for anyone involved. For every asshat in a car there is one more on a bike. .

i believe the idiocracy ratio is 1 car = 1.6 bikes :lol::lol::lol:

speaking of that.... wanna go cycling down edward gardens to the lake (and possibly humber) as an EOC meet instead?

we can get kitkat to pack chinese take out for lunch since he likes to drive the E to humber bay park :-D:-D:-D

the part i used to do all the time is Queens Quay West to Humber Bay Park (bit of road but mostly separated bike ways)

lizzurd

05-02-2010, 08:39 AM

i believe the idiocracy ratio is 1 car = 1.6 bikes :lol::lol::lol:

speaking of that.... wanna go cycling down edward gardens to the lake (and possibly humber) as an EOC meet instead?

we can get kitkat to pack chinese take out for lunch since he likes to drive the E to humber bay park :-D:-D:-D

the part i used to do all the time is Queens Quay West to Humber Bay Park (bit of road but mostly separated bike ways)

No need to pack a lunch. I haven't been down there in a few years...But there used to be a weenie wagon parked where the trail crosses pottery road.

Street weenie and a gatorade was my traditional snack when i was out on the trails.

hapyface

05-02-2010, 04:57 PM

i wouldnt mind cycling as a potential EOC trip.....

Generation "X" Dad

05-02-2010, 10:01 PM

I'd be down for an EOC cycling day in the big city. I'd rather ride with people who know the area well.

I'll just put the CrossTowns on my mtn bike because my Kharismas are worn down enough as it is from city trips and I need to make them last until I get a set of Fire XC Pros again.

hapyface

05-02-2010, 11:14 PM

kitkat123474

05-03-2010, 11:39 AM

i'm down for the cycling idea :)

burns up the tar in my lungs *coughs*smoker here*coughs*

Tim Vance

05-03-2010, 12:27 PM

i'm down for the cycling idea :)

burns up the tar in my lungs *coughs*smoker here*coughs*

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
ROFL!!

hapyface

05-04-2010, 07:01 PM

u down for it too tim?

no smoking event please

Tim Vance

05-05-2010, 09:59 AM

me?
On a bike?
Not likely anymore...too much strain on the hips for me

lizzurd

05-05-2010, 10:29 AM

me?
On a bike?
Not likely anymore...too much strain on the hips for me

Tim we can grab a couple lawn chairs and a bbq and sit out and relax wheile everyone else rides.

hapyface

05-05-2010, 07:43 PM

i invite u folks to come over to my place for dinner after cycling (for those energetic people)... just bought a gazebo today and cleaning the backyard up soon..... just watch out for the 4-way stop sign on the way in!

kitkat123474

05-06-2010, 04:29 PM

already ahead of you guys; got my bike in the E already ;-)

lizzurd

05-06-2010, 04:50 PM

already ahead of you guys; got my bike in the E already ;-)

Is the tranny in the E yet?

kitkat123474

05-06-2010, 06:27 PM

Is the tranny in the E yet?

nope, but soon...

Generation "X" Dad

05-13-2010, 04:13 PM

You guys work out the date you'd like to meet up and I'll see if I can choreograph it for a weekend I go up to see my gf (she lives in Brantford for work). Cycling isn't mandatory for me and I'm just as comfortable just coming to hang out in the Element as I am putting the Swagman on the back with the Giant and strapping on my clipless shoes.

I'll probably bring my bike up anyways just in case, but I'm not hellbent on riding it if it's out of the way for people to join me.

I'm flexible, just let me know and I'll work around your guys' schedules and dates.

hapyface

05-13-2010, 08:16 PM

Generation "X" Dad

05-13-2010, 09:36 PM

my gazebo is built....come over for dinner!Sounds good Bernie. I'll arrange it for a weekend I go to see the gf. We can both come if that's okay. I'd love for you guys to meet her.

hapyface

05-15-2010, 04:55 PM

Sounds good Bernie. I'll arrange it for a weekend I go to see the gf. We can both come if that's okay. I'd love for you guys to meet her.

lizzurd and tim....u folks too!

lizzurd

05-16-2010, 10:41 AM

my gazebo is built....come over for dinner!

Pic a date....Dinner at your place might just be easier than trying to plann a meet. :-D

Generation "X" Dad

05-16-2010, 10:42 AM

lizzurd and tim....u folks too!Yes definitely them too.

Tim Vance

05-16-2010, 01:49 PM

Pic a date....Dinner at your place might just be easier than trying to plann a meet. :-D

Sure...throw some dates out there, and lets see what our schedules are like...

I think most long weekends are out...so anything mid month should be ok...

hapyface

05-18-2010, 10:46 AM

i am flexible with dates.... Long wkends are out for me too.... Just give me 1 week advance notice!

kitkat123474

05-22-2010, 12:33 AM

hook me up bernie!

hapyface

05-23-2010, 03:29 PM

shivers......

richie rich

05-23-2010, 04:28 PM

As you can see from my profile, I live and work in Las Vegas. I'm a professional wedding D.J. and have played at just about every casino, hotel and country club in Vegas. I've just done my 5th Canadian wedding in a row. Now here's the question- Do Canadians not tip? Is tipping not done in Canada? It's driving me bananas! Everyone dances their butts off and the bride & groom say they've had a blast but no tip. I'm getting a complex and getting depressed! HELP:|

Tim Vance

05-23-2010, 08:21 PM

There is a big difference between what we are used to paying for any service, and what you guys are used to paying down there. It really is a societal difference (we travel in the US frequently enough that we've come to recognize this).

First off, you need to realize that we have a higher minimum wage than you do, including waiters and waitress'. We've found that there is a marked difference in the attitude of someone who makes most of their wages in tips, and someone who is subsidizing their wages with tips.

But to answer your question, we don't usually tip for contracted services....
In your case, it depends on what the contract is for....if the DJ sets up and plays for the entire reception, including dinner etc, then the DJ is given a free meal (when the venue is charging $50 to $75 a plate, that's a hefty tip right there). I've also seen where the dinner is MC'd by a family member, and the DJ sets up for the the dancing after dinner only, so it's only a few hours, and again, it's a contracted service.
I have seen where the DJ will put out a tip jar, or charges extra for requests...it depends on what has been arranged.
But as to tipping a DJ...not really....have you thought about checking out what a DJ charges up here, compared to down there? It's possible that your rates are higher than we would normally expect to pay, so we would assume that the tip is included...

lizzurd

05-23-2010, 08:50 PM

I am in agreement with Time here. For what DJ's charge up here tipping is not expected.

At my wedding the DJ was given a list of music he was specifically told not to play. Two thirds of the way thru the night he chose to ignore my wishes. If his services had not been included with the boat we rented for the night he would not have been paid at all.

richie rich

05-26-2010, 12:41 PM

Thanks for the comeback. I get all my gigs through a booking agent, so I don't know what they're charging. The hotel's are so damn cheap they don't provide food for me so I bring my own snacks-speaking of which-I was eating some soy nuts on stage Saturday and heard a different crunch. It was an upper mollar which split up the middle-0 y! But the show must go on and did. NO TIP. I guess I'm just used to California people. Lived and gigged there for 20 years. They tip.:-)

lizzurd

05-26-2010, 01:09 PM

Tim Vance

05-26-2010, 01:14 PM

We tip.....Bartenders,Waitresses,Cab Drivers......Strippers......
LOL
you might, but the service has to be pretty darn good to get one from us....far too many of them are happy with their $8.50/hr (server min wage) that they just don't care about going the extra mile to even be courteous...

which reminds me...what is with the kids now...when did 'no problem' become the response to 'thank you'. I'm sorry if doing your job is an inconvenience!

(unless we're in the US...then we tip. And I've found that the quality of service goes up exponentially with how low the minimum wage is)

hapyface

05-26-2010, 05:36 PM

in agreement with everyone else here....

1. difference in culutre..... minimum wage in Ontario right now is almost $10

2. tip is not a right.... but a graditude.... do a bad job - dont demand it.... do a darn good job...expect up to 20%

3. also many of the immigrants to canada come from cultures that dont even tip at all.

whats sad from OP's experience is the fact they never provided any meals to OP. In light of that i would tip.

as for tipping the s******* person.... my wife does a darn good job and managed to carve out 50% of my earnings..... :-D

kitkat123474

05-29-2010, 07:04 AM

actually, minimum wage is 10.25 at the moment. :-)

Tim Vance

05-29-2010, 09:55 AM

actually, minimum wage is 10.25 at the moment. :-)
LOL
Actually...general minimum wage is $10.25 (and it just went up in March)
Servers get less, as do home care workers, loggers and fishermen.
Industries who's workers receive room and board or tips have a lower base minimum wage.
But I can tell you that $8.25 is almost twice that most servers in the US receive.

Generation "X" Dad

06-01-2010, 01:23 AM

What's discouraging is minimum wage is all that they would pay my friend at my work when they hired him as the detailer/shuttle driver :twisted:.

Truth be told, he was probably one of THE best detailers I've ever seen. When he had a job offer at VW/Audi for a few dollars more an hour to start, apparently him being able to wet sand, buff and detail used cars to showroom condition just wasn't worth matching the couple extra dollars an hour to keep him :?.

hapyface

06-01-2010, 05:04 AM

dont complain........ as i can bore u the entire night..... guess i should do that on the evening you folks are around....

10 days out of town and my grass dried out completely! :x

Generation "X" Dad

06-01-2010, 06:24 AM

I think we could BOTH bore everyone on here to death with our tales Bernie.

Tim Vance

06-01-2010, 11:11 AM

I wonder if my employees talk about me like that....hmmmm
Anyone know the url for that website that employees go to complain about their boss? I wanna see if I'm on there...

Generation "X" Dad

06-01-2010, 11:46 AM

I wonder if my employees talk about me like that....hmmmm
Anyone know the url for that website that employees go to complain about their boss? I wanna see if I'm on there...It's not my boss, it's the workplace politics that get to me. Just seems like in this working world the people who care and want to bring about good things more often than not get moved to the wayside to make way for the people who who don't care but are good at kissing ass.

My apologies if my opinions/comments offend or bother anyone here.

lizzurd

06-01-2010, 12:14 PM

Tim Vance

06-01-2010, 03:54 PM

It's not my boss, it's the workplace politics that get to me. Just seems like in this working world the people who care and want to bring about good things more often than not get moved to the wayside to make way for the people who who don't care but are good at kissing ass.

My apologies if my opinions/comments offend or bother anyone here.
LOL

Ya, that's the way everywhere! Way too many know-it-all butt kisser yes ppl, who don't know a thing, but are skilled at throwing around the lingo seem to get ahead, usually on the back of the ppl who actually know what they are doing!

I've dealt with the same thing in almost every job I've ever had....it makes ya quite skilled at covering your own butt, just to protect yourself from the sharks...Unfortunately, this usually takes a fair bit of time, which would be better spent in a more productive manner. Too bad far too many bosses have been promoted to their level of incompetency, and don't see it, otherwise they would put a stop to it, and let everyone get on with what they are actually being paid for!

No need for an apology...my comments were meant as a tongue in cheek attempt at levitivity...

Generation "X" Dad

06-01-2010, 06:29 PM

Unfortunately this seens to be the expected way of life in the auto business.

25 years and 4 dealerships later nothing has really changed.

One thing has....We can't smoke inside any more and we used to be able to get away with hiding a few cold beers out in the shop on friday afternoon.It is disheartening that's for sure Adrian, especially when you go through so much effort and wade through so much crap to get there.

LOL

Ya, that's the way everywhere! Way too many know-it-all butt kisser yes ppl, who don't know a thing, but are skilled at throwing around the lingo seem to get ahead, usually on the back of the ppl who actually know what they are doing!

I've dealt with the same thing in almost every job I've ever had....it makes ya quite skilled at covering your own butt, just to protect yourself from the sharks...Unfortunately, this usually takes a fair bit of time, which would be better spent in a more productive manner. Too bad far too many bosses have been promoted to their level of incompetency, and don't see it, otherwise they would put a stop to it, and let everyone get on with what they are actually being paid for!

No need for an apology...my comments were meant as a tongue in cheek attempt at levitivity...Thanks Tim, I received your PM. I just don't want to come across wrong on the site here. I know I'm very much a stubborn German who isn't afraid to call a spade a spade and at times I think it can be my undoing :roll:.

My boss/serv mgr is actually a very nice guy so I am thankful for that. It is definitely my saving grace and I cannot imagine what it would be like if I had to deal with a shady scrupulous supervisor as well on top of everything else.

hapyface

06-01-2010, 09:03 PM

i am sure it is the same in many workplaces..... i have since learned to mind my own business and do the best of my abilities in projects i am asssigned...... i guess they call that maturity

now back to some happier topics!

Generation "X" Dad

06-01-2010, 09:43 PM

I am the same way Bernie.

And yes, let's get back to happier topics. LOL sorry for being Captain Bringdown :razz: .

hapyface

06-02-2010, 03:26 AM

start planning what we should do @ our place..... get EOC tatoos for our Es? potluck? BBQ? chase dogs around?

kitkat123474

06-02-2010, 04:43 PM

i'm down for a potluck

i promise i won't drive like an ass :-)

lizzurd

06-02-2010, 05:52 PM

i promise i won't drive like an ass :-)

Don't want to break your tranny again?

kitkat123474

06-02-2010, 05:53 PM

nopee LOLL

hapyface

06-03-2010, 05:13 AM

Don't want to break your tranny again?

break tranny....that sounds like a wonderful hobby!

lizzurd

07-16-2010, 07:21 PM

Almost indy weekend....It is really going to suck staying in a hotel room over looking the lake that someone else is paying for.

hapyface

07-16-2010, 08:48 PM

Almost indy weekend....It is really going to suck staying in a hotel room over looking the lake that someone else is paying for.

go enjoy a great summerlicious dinner, pair with some wonderful wine...get drunk, dont drive and crawl back to the "hotel room looking over the lake" :lol:

if u want me to join...call me :-D

lizzurd

07-17-2010, 08:00 AM

I don't do wine.

I'm not getting hammered tonite. A hangover is the last thing i am going to want to have while sitting trackside tommorow.

hapyface

07-17-2010, 09:24 AM

eliminate the wine and book a great summerlicious restaurant then! go hang around eaton center and feel young again!

lizzurd

07-17-2010, 09:32 AM

eliminate the wine and book a great summerlicious restaurant then! go hang around eaton center and feel young again!

Great now your calling me old too...........

hapyface

07-17-2010, 08:25 PM

Great now your calling me old too...........

dont worry you are not alone...i feel the same too when walking through eaton center......

GenXdad is coming to town for a few days this week..... could we do the panel and meet with him something early this week? Will communicate further through PM

lizzurd

07-18-2010, 04:54 PM

dont worry you are not alone...i feel the same too when walking through eaton center......

GenXdad is coming to town for a few days this week..... could we do the panel and meet with him something early this week? Will communicate further through PM

I am not off until next week. We will be out of town for a couple days. Should be back on 27th.

lizzurd

07-18-2010, 04:55 PM

Ok i lied....I was plastered.

I never would have thunk that Redbull and Grey Goose made for a good drink.

Over all it was a great weekend. Got too see some people i havent seen in a while.

hapyface

07-18-2010, 09:48 PM

will discuss in PM....thought u were gonna work on my panel on 24th?

Generation "X" Dad

07-19-2010, 12:31 AM

I'm here :-). Staying at the Comfort Inn @ 8330 Woodbine Ave.

I will be at the training facility Mon-Thurs this week from around 7:30am until 5pm (or shortly after if I have a module in the shop that I'm close to finishing) but I'm free after that. I have a service loaner (new 2010 Insight whoo hoo!!!!!) so I while it's probably best to not drive around Toronto with the company car on company ducats too much, I don't see coming out to meet you guys being a problem since Bernie said he's not too far from here.

Just text me tomorrow Bernie and we'll set something up.

Well I'm off to bed gentlemen. Gotta get up early for the free breakfast and to find the new Honda facility near here so I can get started early as possible. Hoping to complete all of my Platinum Level modules over the next four days :-).

hapyface

07-19-2010, 04:32 PM

lizzurd.... i am saying.... do you have an evening that we could have a light bite and chat with GenXDad near our hood in Scarborough.... also i thought we agreed to help me with some projects this weekend (24th)?

kitkat123474

07-20-2010, 08:10 PM