I was ready to kill my dog

I know the title sounds pretty bad. I have mix lab and pit and I love him his name is chance BUT we took our first road trip to PA for the hoildays. When at my in-laws house we have to keep him outside because he goes a little spastic around everyone (my wife is the oldest of 10 kids, 8 of which still reside at home). Anyway what happened one night was that the little turd chewed through his leash and tried to get in the car. needless to say there are a # of big scrates on the passenger door (which hopefully will come out with some rubbing compound and elbow grease) and a chip on the inside of the door from what I guess is where one of his nails apperantly got caught. I almost took him back to the humane society after this incident. I was so mad. I love my dog but I love my E a little more....
sorry I guess I am just complaining so Read and have fun

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I think killing is a little extreme. Just cut off the offending paw.

get him some little microfiber booties, and let him polish the car instead of scratching it...

Bill

[quote:d7329f85cf="kato76"]I love my dog but I love my E a little more....[/quote:d7329f85cf]

Maybe you should take him back to the humane society. It's just a f%^&ing car. Sometimes I'm amazed by the way people on this site seem to forget that, no matter how cool it is or how much fun it is to drive, the element is STILL only a car, and scratches can be buffed out.

Your dog was probably pissed because you left him tied outside in the middle of winter, and who can blame him? If he's anything like my mom's lab/pit mix (also rescued from SPCA), he probably only has a single coat (unlike a pure lab's double coat). I don't know where in PA you were, but it gets damned cold at night here. Do you always tie him out at night when you're home? My guess is that you don't (because from the sound of it, he probably would have chewed his way free and run away by now). So why do it at your inlaws? Get a large crate that fits behind the Element's rear seats (You can buy one at Walmart for ~$50) and take it with you when you travel. Then you can keep the dog indoors and out of the way at the same time. That said, you'd probably be better off letting the dog interact with people anyway. Keeping him isolated from everyone is a bad idea. Let him in the house and, if he gets overstimulated, THEN put him in the crate for a while til he calms down.

Good luck getting the scratches out, but seriously, don't neglect your dog then get pissed at him when he expresses his discontent w/ the way he's treated.

I don't mean to offend but, how was this the dogs fault?

[quote:b57329b690=" "]I love my dog but I love my E a little more....[/quote:b57329b690]

Apparently, your dog loves your *E* a lot more. :)

-brendan

you should be glad your dog took it out on the E and not on you!

[quote:1f763d6568=" "][quote:1f763d6568="kato76"]I love my dog but I love my E a little more....[/quote:1f763d6568]

Your dog was probably pissed because you left him tied outside in the middle of winter, and who can blame him? [/quote:1f763d6568]

Ok first of the dog is treated like a king, he live in our house and has his on little room, until our baby came along the dog was out baby and is still like out baby. Secondly it was freaking 60 degress the entire week we were home in Pittsburgh. I don't even know why I' m aguing this point but my e was two weeks old when this happened. So yeah for the first new car I've ever owned since I've had my liceinse yeah it piss me off alittle that the dog who is just a dog jumps up on it and scratched the hell out of it

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[quote:d16980cbf9=" "]until our baby came along the dog was out baby and is still like out baby. Secondly it was freaking 60 degress the entire week we were home in Pittsburgh. I don't even know why I' m aguing this point but my e was two weeks old when this happened. So yeah for the first new car I've ever owned since I've had my liceinse yeah it piss me off alittle that the dog who is just a dog jumps up on it and scratched the hell out of it

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*sigh*

First of all, you need to lighten up. I'm not "arguing" anything with you. Just making some observations. The element is the first new car I've ever had too, and my dog chewed my passenger's seat belt buckle nearly to pieces the morning after I bought it WHILE I WAS DRIVING IT. Sure, it was annoying, but I didn't get all crazy saying I wanted to kill my dog or give her away. It goes with the territory of owning a lab puppy. They chew stuff, plain and simple. Remember, it's just a car?

Second, how long have you had your dog? You say your dog was like your baby. . .that is, until you and your wife had a baby. Now it's "the dog that's just a dog" and it gets its own room? Meaning what? It's confined to a laundry room or bathroom a majority of each day?

Dogs get jealous, just like people. If your dog was once the center of attention in your house and now is treated more like a nuissance than a part of your family, it comes as no surprise that he would be upset and do things to get your attention. Whether it's 'good' attention or 'bad' attention probably makes little difference to him at this point.

Regardless, chill out. You can fix the scratches. Your car is an inanimate object that doesn't need you to 'love' it. The same can't be said for your pet.

OK, sorry about the aguring comment, we got the dog about a month before the baby was born so they could grow up together which puts him in the 2 year mark, when I say he has his own room he has his own room to sleep in he has the run of th house normally so it's not like he is pen up or anything. we had a month to train him beofer the baby came and, well I like to think I trained him fairly well we hike alot so I need to be able to keep him in control (can't have him running off on the trail to go cascading over a mountain or anything). It really was just an unusal thing for him to do.

[quote:2d970c3e4d=" "]It really was just an unusal thing for him to do.[/quote:2d970c3e4d]

Again, he probably just wanted back inside the car, it's an Element after all!

:)

Damned non-opposable thumbs!

-brendan

perhaps kato should learn to spell before criticizing his dog so much.

Ok I dont recall kato saying ANYTHING about killing his dog. I love animals, ask Amy, Colin, or Diane about my animal lectures in chat, but if a dog scratched my new $20,000 vehicle I guarantee I would be mad. Sure its just a dog and doesnt know any better but still I would be MAD! Im sure he loves his dog, he has made that clear, he didn't kill the dog or drop the dog off along the highwway, he simply stated his anger.

And to darcat, so he mispelled a few words. We all do it!!! Im betting if you had more than one post you would also. And at least he knows some grammar rules regarding capitalization.

[quote:8526d79309=" "]Ok I dont recall kato saying ANYTHING about killing his dog. [/quote:8526d79309]

kato76 named the thread: "I was ready to kill my dog".

But I'm sure that's not what he really intended to do. However, don't be surprised if that kind of talk gets people a bit riled up.

-brendan

Lots of emotions in this thread and understandably so. I specifically bought my E because it's the perfect dog box. It's as much her car as mine, but I'm also very protective of my E so I totally understand your feelings about the scratches. This info may help: my dog has separation anxiety. She gets extremely anxious when left alone in "some" circumstances, specifically when she is separated from her "pack" (us). Lucky for me, she's perfectly comfortable in the E when I leave the car and go into places. But I can't be outside of my house and leave her inside for more than 5 mintues or she goes into a panic and does behaivors she never ever does otherwise. I recommend you to do some research on separation anxiety in dogs. There's info on the internet , veterinarians or a dog behaviorist can inform you about it, or some dog training books cover the subject. Don't take it lightly; I hadn't a clue about this kind of anxiety and behavior until I adopted this dog. But other than this quirky behavioral flaw, she is an absolute angel 99% of the time. Some mutts take a little more understanding. I'm so sorry about your car. My heart sinks when I thnk about how you felt when you walked out and saw the damage. I'm sure next time you will find some way to insure the safety and comfort of your dog as well as a way to keep the E safe and beautiful.

There are lots of dogs out there. I like dogs. With Fava beans and a nice dry Chianti.
Kato, let this be a lesson to you...There are far too many people who like dogs a whole lot more than people. Sorry for you dude.

Ok I could never spell I went into Chemistry and not English lit because of that fact. I would never of killed my dog, I like the pup to much plus I think my son would never give me a hug angain. As in the words of yoda angry was I, BUT he still came home with us on his little doggie bed thanks for the info on the behavioral issues I appreciate it

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You're a whole bunch welcome (for the info) Kato.
Happy tavels in the E to all of you, both two legged and four. :D

My E was christened by the dogs when it was only 3 days old. My dogs travel a lot, and as soon as I brought the car home, I packed them up for a trip to visit friends. Since I hadn't had time to rearrange, I just tossed a blanket on the rear seat and one on the floor. My 5 year old found the floor to his liking, and my 10 month old took to the seat. All was well, but I though that the puppy was just a bit too quiet. When we got to our destination, I found that he had chewed off all of the little rubber tabs in the cup holders!
I can't say that I was happy, but what's done is done and the next day I removed the rear seats, put in their crates, and all has been well ever since!

There are far too many people who like dogs a whole lot more than people.
the dog growled before it bit me... the person smiled and said, "trust me" :twisted:
and/or
"i love you"
right before he/she backbit me
i'll take the scratches on the door (& the chianti)...
i'm not judgin' you kato... sometimes my parents wanted to kill me & i was a perfect angel. :wink:
my friends dachsunds have ridden to the park in my e and now whenever they walk by it parked on the street, they try to climb in whether the doors are open or not. thank god they can't reach past the lower plastic. i bought the e for the dogs. a lot of people did. imo, just another reason for the doors to have some kind of plastic cladding on the lower part, like the entire rest of the e.

Kato,

I feel your pain and anguish greatly! And I understand about taking the family dog on a family vacation to the home of family and not being able to integrate the dog into any family function. :? I have English Mastiffs, actually, 4 to be exact and a Pitx. Try taking all 5 dogs home to Mom and Dad's and not being able to let them in the house. Wow!! :shock:

Anyway, I do have to say this, even thoug the temp in PA that weekend was 60 degrees, why tie your dog outside? Why not the garage or basement, or spare room? Or even in the same room you are sleeping in??IMO, just a little inhumane there kiddo. You wouldn't tie an unruley child outside over night? You did say your dog was like your baby?? :wink:

The behavior issue could be a factor or the fact that you've not crated trained a Pit mix. Your dog is never tooo old to learn new tricks. Midwest Kennels makes some of the most sturdiest kennels available. PetsMart, Petco, any local pet coop, I think even Wal-Mart carries this brand. Get one, not too big, just enough room for your boy/girl to turn around, stand, and lay down comfortably.

Start off with the crate set in his/her 'room', door open. Put his palet and a chew toy in it. Let it alone and allow the dog to grow acustom to it. Then after a week or so, using bait (treats/food) get your dog to go in using the term, 'kennel up', 'kennel', 'bye bye', nite nite', or even 'time out'. Any number of these terms will help you out later in life.

All my furkids know these terms, especially 'time out'. When they get unruley or overly excited and uncontrollable, 'time out' is where they end up till they calm down.

As for kenneling, my pit girl actually got mad as hell at me when I graduated her from her kennel. She was 4 yrs old, no longer had the space for it set up in a small apt, so I took it down. She sulked and pissed on the floor for week.. :evil: I never realized how much a Pit enjoys that quiet time all to themselves. I hadn't realized that in the evenings, she's go lay down with her rawhide or kong and actually settle herself in for the night. Also, when I would have a party or get together and the people got to her, she headed off to her 'space'.

Just something to think about kiddo. Oh yeah, things I've lost to dogs in my E.. The rubber things on the back seats, actually that was a Rescue Railroad run dog, not even mine. lol :shock: Numerous scratches all over the tailgate (inside) and floor of the E. Holes in the seat beats, both front and back from either my crew or the Rescues I transport.

So, enjoy your E, it's a fun SUV, but most of all. Be the person your dog thinks you are. Loving, loyal, and his best friend!! He wants the same things out of life and you that you want from him. :D

E On!!

Kerri
AWD EX SOP E (LIL H2)
Mastiffs On Board

Over the holidays we had to put my bulldogge in the E a few times when she wanted to play too roughly in my fiance's mom's home. Luckily my dogs aren't destructive in the car. I can offer a few solutions. The best one is to use a crate. You may also want to think about a dog seat belt. To prevent bored dogs from becoming destructive, give them chew toys while in the car.

MY dogs have not destroyed any part of my car, except for those rubber tabs in the cup holders. Funny that you mentioned it.

thanks for all the comments, BUT it's not in the car that I have to worry about h love'd riding in the car.. it when he wants back int he car because he thinks we in ther and we not.... :twisted: :twisted:

I can understand that you were upset at the fact that your E was scratched, mine is my first new car and I would also be upset at scratched doors...ohh wait mine are scratched... but mine are the result of idiotic people opening doors on it. The first one happened on the second day of ownership... after my initial anger common sense prevailed... it is just a car, and I have for the most part repaired or at least hidden these offensive scratches :lol:

I also have 2 very large breed dogs, Komondor (Hungarian Sheep dogs), one is 16 months and the other is 16 weeks.
MastiffsOnE is giving you some very good advice as are others on this thread. Dogs are pack animals with a very strong sense of heirarchy. But as a dog matures they are driven to test the Alpha members of the pack (Hopefully the Alphas are the people)... Therefor training doesn't occur in a month... you can start training during this first month but training a dog rarely if ever ends... you have to work to remain the Alpha. This can be anything from how you play with your dog to how you feed your dog.
And as others have mentioned BUY A DOG CRATE... your dog will thank you (Dogs are den animals and when they need to get away from family etc. the crate is one of the best calming aides out there... make it fun for your dog not stressfull).
And hey your dog can go with you wherever you go because it has its own portable room :D
Good luck with the scratches..

okay... okay... to lighten things up...

This was awhile ago. Back in my younger days. I had bought a brand new car. It came with a Kaminari fiberglass kit (front lower air dam, side skirts, rear lower air dam, spoiler). The car and kit was painted a deep black. Anyhow, I had to leave town for a week. So, I had my older sister keep the car in her garage. She had two german shepards.

Well. I guess my car must've looked tasty to them. So, one of them scratched the hell out of the doors. Those came out with some buffing and touch up paint. The front air dam and rear air dam, well those were a different story. Apparently, the fiberglass kit was "chewy" like their rawhide dog bones (at least that's what my sister said). So after just 500 miles on the odom I had to file a claim with my insurance. The phone call to report the claim started something like this...

"... uuhh, well. a couple of dogs ate my car. (pause) no seriously... they ate my car."

[quote:74927b5d0f=" "]I also have 2 very large breed dogs, Komondor (Hungarian Sheep dogs), one is 16 months and the other is 16 weeks..[/quote:74927b5d0f]

How very kewl!!! What color and do you have any pictures?? I'd totally love to see your furkids!!!

E ON!!

Kerri