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: Headlight aiming / adjusting


William & Beverly Sirvent
01-18-2004, 10:06 AM
Hi there "Co-ElementOrs"
just wondered if anyone knows how to increase the height the headlamps shine on the road, mine are much too low. I looked in the owners manual but it say's to bring it in for this. Don't have the time any body help?
Thanks Bill S. :?:

Sheniferous
01-18-2004, 09:35 PM
on the upper corner (nearest to the fender side) of each headlight there is a bolt (10mm i think), use a ratchet to adjust it.

Dive Hawaii
01-20-2004, 01:40 PM
I loaded about 500 lbs of stones in the back of mine and that got the lights looking up :shock: lolz
better way is what shen said though 8)

Bill in Houston
01-20-2004, 04:52 PM
on the upper corner (nearest to the fender side) of each headlight there is a bolt (10mm i think), use a ratchet to adjust it.

And there are even little arrows to tell you which way to turn the bolt...

jays0n
01-22-2004, 04:57 AM
For anyone that aimed their headlights up to compensate for the "driving out your lights" problem the E seems to have, which screw did you turn, and how much did you turn it? Have you been getting the "you have your high beams on!" flash since? PIAA Extreme Whites in the headlights and fogs have brightened things up but not solved the problem.

Ellie&Me
01-23-2004, 04:54 PM
I have the same problem. My headlights are towed down (original factory adjustment) and when I drive in very dark backroads (outside the city) I cannot see far enough ahead without using my high beams.

My husband and I just attempted to mess around with the headlights to see if we could do it ourselves, but I made him stop before he misadjusted something :wink: . I told him I'd take it to Honda and have them adjust them for me.

BUT... If someone out there has already done this, or has a repair manual, or knows how, I'd like to know how to do it myself too. I have a trip planned for next weekend (Palm Springs area of CA to Las Vegas NV) and there is a long stretch of road that there are no lights and I'm wanting them adjusted before I set off.

Thanks.

hownowcb
01-23-2004, 07:04 PM
Something to consider is that the design of the Element's headlight beam profiles is very similar to what's been common in Europe for decades, and I'm astonished Mike QBF hasn't addressed this earlier. The low beams have a very distinct upper cutoff point, above which, almost nothing is illuminated. Great for in-town driving and it's very polite to on-coming traffic. The high beams (in contrast) are like landing lights on a 747, and are great, but only on deserted roads, usually in rural areas.

It's kind of a "big brother" notion, but Honda is delivering the message that a person really shouldn't drive beyond the range of what can be seen in the path of the headlights, because the vehicle isn't capable of stopping within a distance greater than that.

Adjusting the hot spot of your low beams higher is only going to irritate and blind on-coming drivers, and render your high beams useful only for spotting owls. A better solution is to use fog lights or driving lights to extend the "reach" of your low beams. Additionally, you really might want to consider the message Honda is trying to get you to "see". It's not such a stupid concept.

MikeQBF
01-23-2004, 07:37 PM
>I'm astonished Mike QBF hasn't addressed this earlier.

Colin knows me so well. I was truly trying to stay out of it, mostly because everything I was coming up with amounted to "don't try this at home."

Anyway, he is right. The E's headlight pattern is not your daddy's sealed-beams. Top cutoff is very sharp and most of the light energy is near the cutoff point. Try to "center" the low-beam aiming based on your knowledge of conventional headlights and you will be the object of much cussing and fuming (and flashing brights) from oncoming motorists.

:?

Ellie&Me
01-24-2004, 12:48 PM
I understand the concept of driving within your field of vision, YET, I find it to be an annoyance (since I live in a rural area) when i am driving home and the speed limit is 60, but my headlights tell me do 45 because Honda is attempting to instill safety. I live in So. Cal. where driving / weather conditions are perfect 11 1/2 months out of the year. If I lived in the city (and when I drive around in the city) it doesn't bother me that the lights are towed the way they are. But as I said, I drive rural roads, but there are quite a few people out there with me. I hate doing the "birghts on, brights off" especially since once I turn them off, I have to adjust to the light difference. I also live in the desert and coyote's just love to jump out in front of you and think they can win the battle. I've seen far too many times, that they can't. Haven't hit one personally (knock on wood).

Well, anyhow, I am taking my Ellie in on Monday to Honda, since its covered by warranty, and they will check to see if there is anything they can do. If not, I guess I just have to tow a heavy load behind me and get my lights towed up a bit that way... but in the since of catch 22, if I were towing, then I wouldn't be driving that fast anyhow... alas, we can never win. :roll:

hownowcb
01-24-2004, 08:41 PM
I feel your pain, having lived in a rural area longer than I've lived in the city. In those days, Cibié used to make a rectangular light called a "passing beam" which was great for those conditions. The pattern was flat and wide like a fog light, but additionally, far-reaching like a driving light. They could be used in on-coming traffic without blinding other drivers if there were aimed properly. Cibié was acquired by/merged with Marchall in the 90's I think, and is now PIAA. I'd still suggest you inquire more about supplemental lighting options before you mess with the "correct" headlight aim. Your sig suggests your intention to acquire Honda foglights. Generally speaking they should help add to your overall lighting, filling the gap between low and high beams with judicious aiming. That's what I've done with my aftermarket foglights, but don't know how mine compare to Honda's beam pattern. Keep us updated on what you eventually do and how well it meets your needs.

Einstein
01-25-2004, 10:23 AM
The screw you need to turn is behind the headlight in the engine compartment. It looks like a hat, the top is a hex bolt and the washer is a serrated brim. The serrated part allows you to use a philips screwdriver, but I recommend you use a box-end wrench on the bolt (metric) to keep from boogering up the plastic with the screwdriver.

I had to adjust both of my headlights, don't remember which way to turn but I think it was about 180° to get them right.

Park on a traffic-free road on level ground. Turn your headlights on low-beam and walk about 5 car-lengths away. Kneel down to the level of an oncoming sedan. The headlights should not be too bright. Kneel down any further and they will get suddenly bright. If not, adjust them up until they are just right.

Nobody high-beams me, and I see quite well. But then again I found the stock lights too dim, I replaced them with an upgrade. I recommend Sylvania 9003XV "xtra-vision" for long life and better light than stock. You can get them as low as $12 per pair.

If you are upgrading the bulbs, be sure to do it before adjusting the aim!

biocube
07-19-2004, 07:39 PM
i too replaced my stock headlamp bulbs (with eurodezigns, which are great) but also find that the low beams don't throw far enough (though the additional brightness of the xenons does help over stock). and yes, i have the oem fogs, which give nice illumination around the sides and lower than the low beams, but don't help much for 'medium' distances.

so i too want to adjust the lamp aim, hopefully out another 50 feet or so. i hate all the F-150s blinding me daily, though, so i want to just do that little bit and not up it too much like those obnoxious pickups.

how much have you all turned that adjusting bolt? half a turn? 1/4 turn?

thanks!

wmas1960
07-20-2004, 02:15 AM
I forgot to look at what year Elements some of you are driving or see any indication if you have older or newer cars. I say that because I don't notice much of a problem with my Element. This thread just seems a little odd to me. My car was built in 04 of 04. Maybe there was something changed in adjustments along the line or maybe it is a variation from one car to another????

Asside from the common issue that the stock bulbs don't seem bright enough I haven't noticed any concern that the lights don't project out far enough I have been perfectly comfortable driving them to this point. But, that could also be personal eyesight variations or personal comfort issues??? I have thought of changing the bulbs to a brighter bulb as I didn't alwasys sense a truely white light. Maybe a little more subdued at times.

I did have the fog lights installed and do find that I use those all the time. I live in a Suburban area where there is a lot of wildlife, walkers, bike riders, joggers..... Sometimes, even after dark, people will be riding bikes, walking or jogging in the street without lightiing or adequate reflectors. Deer are rather nocturnal and will often be grazing along the sides of the roads.... I have had several experiences where they will run out along side you as if they want to race then cut in front of you real quick to get accross. The fogs are really good in those situations. They do extend my view a little. Especially at road surface and out in front. I have seen boxes in the roads, large branches..... in enough time to menuver around. Also the fogs have seemed to increase my field of view quite a bit as well. Giving me a better view of the shoulder of the road where the above mentioned pedestrians and bicyclists and grazing wildlife might often be in the shadows. I can't tell you how many deer, cats and dogs being walked by their owners I have seen right up on the shoulders of the road with the foglights on.

I saw a thread somewhere a couple days ago that showed a picture of some trim that someone put by the foglights. It was a white piece that went inside the holes where lights mount. I wonder if that might be benefitial somewhat in throwing (reflecting) even more light off to the sides and enhancing ones field of view.

ewschaefer
04-11-2005, 09:15 PM
Would someone be able to tell me how to adjust the headlights. I am trying to aim them slightly higher. The manual says to bring it to your mechanic. I hope is not as complicated as all that.

Thanks,

Sheniferous
04-11-2005, 09:24 PM
use a 10mm ratchet on the adjustment bolts on the upper outer corners of each headlight.

emt4diving
04-12-2005, 09:06 AM
can someone take a pic of the place to adjust the headlight so nothing gets broke to help everyone out, Mine to had to be adj. but i had the dealer do it.

ramblerdan
04-12-2005, 10:27 AM
There's an adjuster behind the headlight. A 10mm socket will work, but you can also use a Phillips screwdriver to engage the teeth on the bolt's flange. Very convenient.

Note that some states are picky about aim and could fail you at inspection time if the lights point too high (not to mention pissing off oncoming drivers), so you'd do well to follow the instructions in the service manual, which specify distance from the car to a flat surface and the distance from the bright spot to the ground.

eleventhletter
04-18-2005, 10:44 AM
This weekend we pulled the amber out of the headlights and everything went smoothly and it looks great. But last night driving home I noticed that my drivers side headlight is looking up in the sky for aliens, lol. The owners manual says that you have to take it to the dealer.

Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this, do we pull the front off again and take them off and try there. I'd rather not have to go to the dealer, it seems like they just bolted back on and there was no leveling device that we saw.

Has anyone else seen this or experienced this before? Any suggestions?

I appreciate all the boards I read on here and all the advice and tips I've gotten so I thought I'd check with you all first. Thank for all your help in advance

LBC LMint
05-01-2005, 07:26 PM
Has anyone had to adjust their headlights? I recently bought some sylvania silverstars and they made a big difference but I notice the headlights are pointing a little low for my liking. How do you adjust the headlights to point them up a bit. Most headlights have adjustment screws but I dont see them on the E. Do you have to remove the front bumper\grill to get to them???

pengshi
05-02-2005, 12:21 AM
I followed instructions from this site and aimed my lights higher, and it works great now.
http://www.hondasuv.com/element/viewtopic.php?t=94

I drove my friend's car and have him follow me in the Element at night, and the light was not blinding at all. There's a marker on the washer, I turned it a full 360 degree to get my current aiming.

LBC LMint
05-04-2005, 09:13 PM
I used a 10MM box end wrench and turned the adjustment nuts about 180 degrees (half a turn) and it made a world of difference. Turn clockwise to raise and counter to lower the aim. You do have to take off the plastic air intake tube for the driver's side. Also before I adjusted, I made a mark with a sharpie pen on each washer\nut even with the adjustment hole so I could tell where the factory setting was...just in case I ever want to go back.

Big E
08-18-2005, 12:50 AM
Raising the headlights was one of the first things I did to my E. My 2003 has a hex nut behind the headlights and takes a 10mm socket to adjust. I can do it with just my hand... no ratchet. Screw it "in" to raise the beam. The left side has an air intake in the way and you'll have to remove it. I'd start with a half turn and then drive it on dark roads. Remember the factory setting has the left beam slightly lower so as not to blind oncoming traffic. Leave the 10mm socket in your change holder for fine tuning later. BTW, the Buick I drove till I got the E had click on/click off brights! And the 77 Eldorado before that had 'em on the floor!

mveach
08-26-2005, 01:22 PM
On my 05 the only screw I see is to one side of the light. It is where I would think a side adjustment would be. Is this the raise/lower screw?

Big E
08-27-2005, 12:01 PM
That's probably the one. On my 03 it's the only silver hex nut there. I'm no expert but I don't think there is a side to side adjust on these new kind of headlights because they cast such a wide field to begin with. If in doubt, pull it up to a wall or garage door and mark where the top of the light hits and then begin your adjustment. A half inch on the wall makes a big difference on the road, that's why I say keep the adjustment tool with you till you drive several dark roads... that is the best way to check your adjustment.

KAYAKRACER
03-01-2006, 01:27 PM
The adjuster mentioned seems to only move the lamps vertically. Does anyone know if there is another adjuster to move the lamps horizontally??
My right lamp is aimed down the middle of the road and I would like to have more light on the side of the road where critters seem to like to run from.
Any help would be appreciated.

ramblerdan
03-01-2006, 01:33 PM
Don't think there's a horizontal adjustment.

Dom.five
04-25-2006, 09:16 PM
I need help! How do you adjust the headlights on the 06. I know that it's easy on the 05. I did my other E. A Philips worked fine. That's not the case on the 06. What does work ???

Sheniferous
04-25-2006, 09:30 PM
I need help! How do you adjust the headlights on the 06. I know that it's easy on the 05. I did my other E. A Philips worked fine. That's not the case on the 06. What does work ???


i don't think they changed the headlight aiming mechanism in the 06... there should be a 10mm bolt on the lower outer edge of each lamp. a 10mm socket should do the trick.

Dom.five
04-25-2006, 09:52 PM
I think thats the side to side, Shen ..

I need to aim them higher. I'm looking for the Vertical Adjuster tool "" .. I can see the Adjuster on the upper outside part of the rear housing. But the Philips does not move the lamp like it did on the 05. I was wondering if they changed it to Hex head or something. I was too lazy to remove the headlight to take a close look. But that's what I will do in the AM.

Thanks

Dom

Sheniferous
04-25-2006, 09:54 PM
hmm... weird. the 10mm bolt on mine aims it up and down. i don't recall ever seeing a horizontal adjustment on the headlight.

good luck with it!

outpost4
04-25-2006, 10:32 PM
On my '04 that's a vertical adjustment screw. I only know that because I turned it acting stupid and frelled it up. I can't imagine they changed it for '06 with the headlights the same.

Unless they changed just yours... :-o :twisted: :-P

Dom.five
04-26-2006, 10:11 AM
I called the dealer !! They tell me some came through with 7mm hex ( Allen head ) adjusters. Mine is one of them. I was able to adjust the head light up about 7 inches. then back down to about 1 1/2 inches higher than it was when I started. He told me that they can change the adjuster's for about 20$ if I like. I may change them myself, if I need to adjust them any more. It's a pain in the rear end to do it with the Allen key. A 10mm socket is the way to go.

Dom

Jeepwatchman
11-03-2006, 08:04 AM
Hey guys, got an 06 and need to adjust the headlights a little bit higher and cannot figure out how to do that. I've looked in the owner's manual(worthless) and have looked at the lights themselves, but I am stumped. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

robc
11-03-2006, 09:51 AM
Look behind the headlight assembly and you will see a 10mm bolt behind it just use a ratchet or something that fits it and turn it counter clock wise i believe to aim them higher. I turned mine a little over 180* and what a huge difference. Just don't turn them to much or you will blind other drivers at night, i know i aimed mine to high before.

MikeQBF
11-03-2006, 09:59 AM
Yes, don't just twist on the adjusters thinking you're fixing something. You're not dealing with conventional sealed-beams, with the "hot spot" in the center. The E's headlight focus is highly-engineered, and throws peak light at the sharp top cutoff.

More than a couple of twists and you'll "high aim" the lights into oncoming traffic - making people quite unhappy with you - and you will aim your brights too high.

And with apologies to Rob, but the manual says that vertical adjustment procedure is with a Phillips-head screwdriver. There is a pawl to the outside center of each lens assembly - it looks sort of like a gear that you insert the screwdriver into. Procedure: on a level surface, park the car 25 ft away and 90° from a vertical surface. Measure the height to the center of the headlights (there will be a small square on the lens). With low beams on, measure the height of the hot spot on the wall (remember, not the center of the light pattern), and adjust to be 2.1" below the center point.

There is no left-right adjustment.

robc
11-03-2006, 10:03 AM
I get flashed I think because I have silverstars. I have put in the OEM bulbs and have never got flashed even with the headlight adjustment different story with silverstars.

Jeepwatchman
11-03-2006, 01:33 PM
Thanks for the quick responses. That's what I needed to know.

Jeepwatchman
11-06-2006, 08:23 AM
Oh and for what it's worth, my headlights have a hex head bolt for the adjustment, not a phillips. I haven't adjusted them yet but I took a look at them yesterday. Again, thanks to everyone that responded.

MikeQBF
11-06-2006, 08:55 AM
Oh and for what it's worth, my headlights have a hex head bolt for the adjustment, not a phillips. I haven't adjusted them yet but I took a look at them yesterday. Again, thanks to everyone that responded.
Huh. Then the manual has it wrong... not like we can't figure it out. I'll go out later this morning and dodge the raindrops and see whassup with mine. If I have the hex bolt, too, I'll scan the page... maybe something on earliest models only?

MikeQBF
11-06-2006, 11:12 AM
Ha! It's both.

The 10mm hex head is the end of the adjustment shaft, and works fine. But also notice that visible through a round hole there is a toothed wheel that looks like a cupped washer, with the teeth facing away from the bolt head. There is also a rounded "saddle" molded into the back of the headlight housing, near the adjuster bolt.

This is all designed to use a long-shaft #2 Phillips screwdriver to turn the bolt. Insert the screwdriver in the hole, engage the teeth, and the adjuster bolt turns easily.

Why is it done this way? The access to the left (driver-side) adjuster bolt is compromised by the air intake snorkel. Coming into it from the top with a screwdriver makes the job a snap and makes fine adjustment even that much easier. Smart folks, them Honda engineers.

:-)

Blank
03-07-2007, 11:26 PM
It seems that my left HL is aiming lower than my right one. Is there some sort of screw or mechanism to change the aiming of it? I know in my 4Runner, it had a screw that tilted the headlight up and down, but after doing the clearing of the headlights, I never saw one.

giulianr
04-24-2007, 05:26 PM
I own a 2007 Element and it took a while to realize that the headlights are not adjusted properly. If I back up 25 feet from my garage door, the light from the headlights hits the ground. This explains why I CAN'T see the road!!! I believe that the mis-alignment happened when the dealership replaced the front nose of the Element due to a deep scratch. I am trying to find any information on how you properly adjust the headlamps including the location of the adjustment screws. I hope a dealer can shed some light on the subject...sort of to speak. HELP!!!! I can't see. Seriously, any info would be of great help. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.

Dial Tone
04-24-2007, 05:33 PM
Take it back to them to have it re-aimed correctly to specs. Let them do the work.

rymo926
04-24-2007, 06:11 PM
Search headlight adjustment, and your answer will be there. there's only one screw attached to the headlight, so it's pretty easy, as it is only a vertical adjustment, no hori. pop your hood, easy to figure out.

Ink Slinger
04-24-2007, 10:52 PM
I say take it to the dealer. If they installed new front fascia and didn't align the headlights then they should make it right. Also... when they adjust the headlights they will do so on a completely flat surface. I don't know of many driveways which are completely flat. I think the dealer will be able to make the adjustment to specs easier than you will. Just MHO.

Justinb845
04-25-2007, 01:02 AM
unless they have changed the design of the headlights or you have an SC then replacing the front end had nothing to do with it. But in either case take it to the dealer and mak them do it they messed it up make them fix it.

okmendoza
07-25-2007, 01:43 AM
Hi I was wondering if there is a way of adjusting the light beam on the headlights. I had regular halogen bulbs, but now I have HID. I was wondering if it's possible to do this.

slimerdogs
07-25-2007, 01:21 PM
Some of the HID kits do not have a good pattern and the only thing you can adjust is the up-down. there is a nut or screw on the top of the lamp towards the outside that you can adjust. Its on the back of the fixture and I think there is something in the owners manual on where is screw is. Is yours too low or too high or just has a bad pattern. The latter cannot be adjusted.

okmendoza
07-25-2007, 07:55 PM
THank You Slimerdogs!

I am going to try it out. I am a little concern I don't want to blind other people who are infront of me. Cause this HID seem to be very bright. I used to work for a Honda dealership here where I live. I was able to copy a page of the Element Service manual which talks about adjusting the vertical.

JakePTodd
09-10-2007, 10:26 PM
Does anyone know how to aim the headlights on an 05 Element EX? I can't find out how anywhere.

BDMGTA
04-06-2008, 04:15 AM
Just wondering if anyone knew how to adjust the low beams up on the element. Which screw adjusts it?

scanrps
04-06-2008, 07:53 AM
Here is the adjustment for the SC.

fb05
06-09-2008, 09:27 PM
thanks to all the post about aligning the headlights, i learned how to and adjusted my lights but i have one problem...

as i turn the bolt i can see on the wall that the headlight moves up and down. i aimed it lower to match the driver side light but i think i made like 2 complete turns. the problem i have is that even tho i notice it move, the light reflects up on the middle of the headlight. the left side looks fine but the right side is i guess not reflecting in the middle of the reflector, it just points up sort of like this...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l161/fernyb05/Untitled-1-1.jpg

sorry for the ugly pic but u cant really see wat im talking about with a camera

Alaskan_Toaster
06-10-2008, 09:20 PM
Unfortunately it's difficult to get an exact idea of your situation, but, it SHOULD just be a matter of the adjustment screws to realign, like you've tried.
Has your E been in ANY kind of accident? That can cause problems with the frame around the light and corresponding problems with adjustments. If you're not the original owner, check around the framing of the HL for possible damage.
Haven't had to mess with mine, yet, so, just trying to come up with possible solutions..... :rolleyes::)

Good luck, I know it can be challenging to get it right.... :)

fb05
06-11-2008, 03:42 AM
Unfortunately it's difficult to get an exact idea of your situation, but, it SHOULD just be a matter of the adjustment screws to realign, like you've tried.
Has your E been in ANY kind of accident? That can cause problems with the frame around the light and corresponding problems with adjustments. If you're not the original owner, check around the framing of the HL for possible damage.
Haven't had to mess with mine, yet, so, just trying to come up with possible solutions..... :rolleyes::)

Good luck, I know it can be challenging to get it right.... :)

yea i am the original owner n the E was in an accident:mad:
i know it has to do with that and even tho it got fixed the headlight is about a couple centimeters under the bumper frame where the headlight hole is and about 2-3inches off the bottom:mad:

http://i27.tinypic.com/x258qc.jpg
not my element but just to give u an idea wat i mean

now the headlight problem ive tried taking a picture but it sucks with the light and angle so maybe this might help, my light instead of reflecting in the middle like the drivers side does it reflects up even tho the alignment is even on both sides like this...

http://i31.tinypic.com/ad2cf9.jpg

sorry if im confusing u guys

jinya1004
02-07-2009, 08:22 AM
After reading this, I tried using a 10mm to turn the headlights upward following the U/D directions on the headlight.

It seems like all it does when I turn the bolt is that it gets loose.

Any suggestions?

I'm used to using the screwdriver, like all my civics

ramblerdan
02-07-2009, 11:46 AM
Welcome, Jinya1004.

Sounds like you're adjusting the wrong screw. See illustration above.

Moondogg
11-02-2010, 08:20 PM
Is there a solution to the low aim of the headlights? I hate the sharp cutoff of the headlights. My dealer tried to raise them but it wasn't high enough. I have to use my high beams all the time just to see farther down the road.

ramblerdan
11-02-2010, 11:33 PM
The sharp cutoff is exactly as it was designed. If you aim them too high, you'll be in violation and possibly blind oncoming drivers. Your dealer should have been able to measure the aim and set it to spec. If it's not spec, take it back. If it is, leave it alone.

Moondogg
11-03-2010, 07:22 AM
The low cut off point is really annoying and makes it hard to see down the road. The service guy told me that Honda redesigned the headlights on the 2009 model to eliminate the cut off. I wonder if I can retrofit the newer model lights to my 08?

With Maine having so many deer and moose on the roads, I feel this is a major safety issue.

Dan, thanks for your response.

ramblerdan
11-03-2010, 08:54 AM
Doesn't look like they will interchange.

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/eoc/headlight_2003-08.gif
2003–08


http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/eoc/headlight_2009-10.gif
2009–10

atetra
11-03-2010, 10:14 AM
The sharp cutoff exists on my '10. The headlights may have been redesigned, but the cutoff is still there.

There are times when the headlights illuminate only about 30 feet in front of my E. That to me seems more dangerous than jacking the headlights up some to increase their throw. The projector low beams on my '06 Pilot have a sharp cutoff as well, but throw noticeably farther than my E. Like Moondogg, I find that I need to drive with my high beams on most of the time.

michael05
11-03-2010, 10:25 AM
It is a problem on my 2010. One of the few things I don't like. I am not sure my aim is low either; it is the sharp cutoff that creates a deep, dark shadow above the light. On any hill, even slightly, that can create a real issue with seeing down the road.

If there was a way to increase the spill, or reduce the sharpness of the edge of the light, that would be good. I have wondered about raising the aim of right passenger light slightly, since that may cause some overlap between them and reduce the edge, and would impact oncoming drivers less. I don't have fogs, and wonder if they may help too.

ramblerdan
11-03-2010, 10:28 AM
Fogs won't help, as they are designed to shine low and wide.

Bowzer
11-03-2010, 10:51 AM
Perhaps some auxilary driving...not fog...lights could help ya'll out. Pencil Beams, mounted a bit lower than the OEM headlights, can provide some marginal increase in how far down the road the light beam will go. But it would not help on hills.

Googling "Aiming Headlights" rings up plenty of hits. Here's one (http://www.automedia.com/Aiming_Headlights/ccr20010801ha/1) that shows simple procedures without any special tools.

If this doesn't help, perhaps some better performing lightbulbs...anything from Halogen replacements to HID retrofits...could help more. But I would be very cautious about changing the aim from prescribed methods. Your comfort level could easily become someone else's nightmare in the wrong situation...just sayin'.

Crash80
11-03-2010, 11:54 AM
The low cut off point is really annoying and makes it hard to see down the road. The service guy told me that Honda redesigned the headlights on the 2009 model to eliminate the cut off. I wonder if I can retrofit the newer model lights to my 08?

With Maine having so many deer and moose on the roads, I feel this is a major safety issue.

Dan, thanks for your response.


http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp220/MiximusMaximus/LittleE.jpg


My 08 SC has the wrap around lights and looks nothing like the upper drawing. Is it an SC thing?

ramblerdan
11-03-2010, 12:22 PM
Yes, the SC headlight is a different animal entirely. BTW does it too have a sharp upper cutoff?

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/eoc/headlight_sc.gif

Crash80
11-03-2010, 12:26 PM
Yes, the SC headlight is a different animal entirely. BTW does it too have a sharp upper cutoff?

It does but it has not been bothersome for me. The SC comes with projector-beam halogen headlights, which helps but there is a definite line of demarcation still. I am just glad to be out of my part sheading PT Cruiser and in the E....

Crash80
11-12-2010, 07:26 AM
I just thought I would mention that my wife's '10 CRV headlights are just like my E's headlights in terms of upper cutoff. So, it is not just the E that is like this.

desinia
11-13-2010, 02:56 AM
I just thought I would mention that my wife's '10 CRV headlights are just like my E's headlights in terms of upper cutoff. So, it is not just the E that is like this.

And my kid sister has the same problem with her Accord and I saw the same complaint looking through a group of CrossTour victims. Honda seems to stand firm on giving the public poorly designed headlights.

Bowzer
11-13-2010, 12:23 PM
And my kid sister has the same problem with her Accord and I saw the same complaint looking through a group of CrossTour victims. Honda seems to stand firm on giving the public poorly designed headlights.

THis isn't limited to Honda.

I'm wondering if there is more reaction to the cutoff simply becoming more visible vs actual loss in performance when compared to vehicles even 5 years ago. Pronounced cutoff could also be reaction to the high volume of aftermarket modding with HID to prevent glare from piss poor efforts.

pannkake
11-13-2010, 12:54 PM
As someone who hates getting blinded by oncoming drivers, and believes in the Golden Rule, I love the sharp cut-off. I think the light were a little low, from the factory, but with a bit of tinkering and testing on a flat dark road I have them in a good spot.

Eww-an E
11-13-2010, 10:07 PM
I actually like the cutoff. :? Plus with the simple addition of a hi performance/quality bulb swap and just a minor tweak in aim, they can perform quite well.;-)

mikezoltek
11-27-2011, 07:51 AM
2008 Element Headlight adjustment aiming...adjust the grey/silver bolt on back of headlight case,...I used a 10mm socket a on 2-inch extention with short ratchet. Did not remove air cleaner (went under it). Clockwise = up...easy to give a realative adjustment on the back wall of the garage but I did take it for a test drive and "tweak" it just a bit after.

daffy
03-01-2012, 09:28 AM
After 9yrs the rt headlight has gone out of adjustment and is too low . I did notice the 10mm nut and seeing no other way of moving the headlight unit I turned the nut several times in both directions but nothing seems to happen. Am I missing something? The light needs to go up and to the right. How much do I turn the nut; clockwize or no? Is there any other adjustment nuts or screw? Daffy

Yoshi
03-03-2012, 01:43 PM
After 9yrs the rt headlight has gone out of adjustment and is too low . I did notice the 10mm nut and seeing no other way of moving the headlight unit I turned the nut several times in both directions but nothing seems to happen. Am I missing something? The light needs to go up and to the right. How much do I turn the nut; clockwize or no? Is there any other adjustment nuts or screw? Daffy

The movement with the adjustment nuts is VERY pin point and slow. I probably had to turn mine a good 15 times to get about an inch of height difference. JS

daffy
03-07-2012, 08:47 AM
Thanks JS, I turned the 10mm nut 12 1/4 times clockwize & the beam came up to the correct height. It is nice to see the road at night! Daffy

Yoshi
03-18-2012, 02:44 AM
Thanks JS, I turned the 10mm nut 12 1/4 times clockwize & the beam came up to the correct height. It is nice to see the road at night! Daffy

"JS" means "Just Saying" :lol:

Name's Yoshi