So I searched and only found one where someone was selling one but none talking about installing one and what they thought of it.

I'm about to get this unit, was deciding between the AVIC-F700BT and the AVIC-D3, But I liked the mem card slot and other features better in the F700BT.

From reading the http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=123645&highlight=powered#post123645 thread

But I cant determine or don't know how to know if the unit is a "non-powered" or "powered" HU.. From pics of the wires ive seen there appears to be RCAs so I want to assume non-powered? which would mean I need 3 "PAC SNI-35 Line Level Speaker to RCA Adapter"s?

then I've also determined I need a "Metra 70-1721 honda wiring harness"
so do I also need a "Generic Radio Harness" ?

Did I miss anything That I'm going to need harness wise? Anyone have any thoughts or warnings about this unit? anything is appreciated thanks!

The F700 BT is powered with 22watts x4. If you're going to run it off the factory amp, you will need a Metra 70-1725 harness and a spare RCA to hook up the sub. http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52097

BigAl is right you will need that Metra and some patience.
The fit behind the radio TIGHT:shock:.
After you install the unit start thinking speakers. (SOON 8))

The link Big Al was my road map and I got there in 2 hours. Most of that was spent making the Metra Perfect. (I'm AR) That included getting the trim ring for the Pilot.

Good luck, Can't wait to see your PICS when done.

yeah def gonna post pics! now is the pilot trim necessary? or is the one from the E just that bad of a fit?

also since I see you have the unit, any particular major problems you have with it?

I've got the same exact unit sitting in my garage awaiting a weekend free of other commitments so I can tear into this. Lot's of disassembly to install all of the components


Head unit, I've got the Metra harness, what install kit do I need? The generic kit for the same year Pilot?
XM module, I plan to install this behind the rear side panel where the stock unit is located
GPS and XM antennas - plan to install these using the "hidden antenna" instructions.


Also have the ipod adapter cable, but that's just a plug-in, no real install to that.

Yeah I have a usb ipod cable for a computer I was going to use, is it necessary to get the one made specifically for the unit if I'm not planning on using video?

Also about the pilot install kit from what I saw on Ebay the kit fits years 03'-09' so I assume that means the year isn't necessary?

Yeah I have a usb ipod cable for a computer I was going to use, is it necessary to get the one made specifically for the unit if I'm not planning on using video?



yes, the regular ipod cable for a computer will not work

ShroomMastaP I had One installed from best buy jsut becuase but watched them and uninstalled it myself. It is very easy and straight forward. The only trouble I had was with the sub cable, It was a deffrent color than it was suppost to be for some reason but it was just plug and play really. Also selling it right now with wireing harness, In dash mount and everything else:-D

Alright so after all my reading and researching and ect i feel im ready to install it, just some questions..

I have the 70-1725 harness set and hooked up, now i read on a site:

white rca -> front left
grey rca -> front right
green rca -> rear left
purple rca -> rear right

so i'm using that set up, just they dont specify what color plugs into white and what one red. so i assumed right-red ?

last question is that after i have that harness set up, I'm still left with 2 (to me they look important) plugs in the back of my stock radio, but don't know what to do with them in the new installation?

The green plug and the white one far right in my picture:
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02877.jpg

Now i do know that one is the sub harness and thats what I have to splice into, do i just leave the other free hanging?

just realized its the aux plug, n since this HU has a front aux plug I wont need to plug in the stock one? so I can take it out and put another cigarette lighter?

Correct - you can leave it alone. (unless you want to get fancy and splice that into the AUX inputs in the rear of the unit)

Alright, so far this is what i have as far as the harness being wired into the wires That came with the unit's harness.

things I'm unsure about is on the Metra 70-1725 left unatached to anything are a solid orange, Blue with white stripe and a black wire that I dont have attacked to anything.

on the HU's setup I have a solid blue wire (with the tag "antenna control" on it) but it has a different end connector on it? I have a Black one but the manual says its the grounding wire so I ground it on the vehicle (metal) body, and no solid orange But I read on another post why (just slips my mind atm)

Also on the HU's harness there is that bundle of wires that match all of that as the RCA connectors so I assume since I have RCA there is no need for these?

So far:
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02880.jpg

Alright, so far this is what i have as far as the harness being wired into the wires That came with the unit's harness.

things I'm unsure about is on the Metra 70-1725 left unatached to anything are a solid orange, Blue with white stripe and a black wire that I dont have attacked to anything.

on the HU's setup I have a solid blue wire (with the tag "antenna control" on it) but it has a different end connector on it? I have a Black one but the manual says its the grounding wire so I ground it on the vehicle (metal) body, and no solid orange But I read on another post why (just slips my mind atm)

Also on the HU's harness there is that bundle of wires that match all of that as the RCA connectors so I assume since I have RCA there is no need for these?

So far:
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02880.jpg


the blue/white on the metra harness needs to be hooked to the blue/white comming from the new radio in the rca harness, think they call it "system remote control" or something like that. all the speaker wires from the new radio harness and the orange one form the metra harness need to be capped off or just tape them up good. the blacks can get hooked together, just cut the ring terminal off the radio side harness and attach it to the one on the metra harness.

One more thing - ShroomMastaP - are you planning on doing the DVD bypass? It's pretty simple and now's the time to do it. Move the yellow cell phone mute wire in the harness to the new location as shown and ground it. Be careful pushing it out - push down & out with a needle or something small and push it all the way in the new sopt. Ground the lime green parking brake wire.

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17013


http://avic411.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2123

Thanks so much for all the help! I've now got all the wires connected except
the reverse gear input - Is it necessary if I'm not putting in a camera?
and the "Antenna Control"

I switched the mute wire like the diagram showed, found it easy to use the needle to pull up on the white piece and the wire slid right out! and then used "amp splice tap connectors" and attached them into the black wire like your picture showed.

Only thing im waiting on now is the ipod wire and the faceplate from the pilot. But I'll prob hold off on the pilot piece for money reasons and just install it without.

One question - any reason to not remove the excess wire from the parking brake lead? It's a tight fit in the dash for all these harnesses and I'd like to eliminate some bulk. I think I will also remove the unused speaker leads entirely from the Metra harness, again just to eliminate extra stuff.

Do I need a Honda antenna adapter like this?

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2005/120/h12040HD10-fp.jpg

Thanks so much for all the help! I've now got all the wires connected except
the reverse gear input - Is it necessary if I'm not putting in a camera?
and the "Antenna Control"

Nope, it isnt needed any more since they dont do the vss wire and the radio deoesnt need to know if the pulses are from the car going forward or backwards, and the antenna on the older ones is tied into the same wire as the blue/white goes to, not individual ones like the newer ones that require an antenna adaptor that have two wires. in short, cap it off.

I switched the mute wire like the diagram showed, found it easy to use the needle to pull up on the white piece and the wire slid right out! and then used "amp splice tap connectors" and attached them into the black wire like your picture showed.

Only thing im waiting on now is the ipod wire and the faceplate from the pilot. But I'll prob hold off on the pilot piece for money reasons and just install it without.


sounds like you got it from here

One question - any reason to not remove the excess wire from the parking brake lead? It's a tight fit in the dash for all these harnesses and I'd like to eliminate some bulk. I think I will also remove the unused speaker leads entirely from the Metra harness, again just to eliminate extra stuff.

Do I need a Honda antenna adapter like this?

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2005/120/h12040HD10-fp.jpg

yes you need a metra 40-hd10

We say it never happened if there was no PIC>

:lol:

We say it never happened if there was no PIC>

:lol:

Yeah i went to install it and was just gonna put the trim piece in after but didnt realize the E's brackets wont fit an aftermarket.. so this radio is sitting on my desk all pre-wired up ready to be placed in!

I already went ahead and installed the GPS antenna I'll get pics to put up tomorrow, I put it below the wiper trip on the passenger side and strung the wire already up to the radio, so plug and play when the time comes.

On the microphone i Keep changing my mind.... First was going to put it below the gauge cluster on top of that stationary part of the steering wheel.. then i changed it to an upside down spot on bottom right of the gauge cluster between it and the radio, then I was driving home tonight n thought that wiring it to the rearview mirror might be an even better location but I'm not too sure how well i'd pic-up my voice or ho close to it I have to be..

Otherwise Im getting the Ai Hon-k834 kit

then I was driving home tonight n thought that wiring it to the rearview mirror might be an even better location but I'm not too sure how well i'd pic-up my voice or ho close to it I have to be..

Just my opinion, but I'd go with the rear view mirror location (or at the top of the A pillar). Wiring it thru is a little more work, but I think it'd pick up your voice better up higher.

As for the OEM brackets, they will work, but you have to drill some new holes to line up with the threaded mounting holes in the Pioneer unit.

Can't wait to see the pics.

As for the OEM brackets, they will work, but you have to drill some new holes to line up with the threaded mounting holes in the Pioneer unit.

Can't wait to see the pics.

well as for the OEM brackets, the problem i was having wasnt that the holes werent lining up, its that they have these notches in them that wont allow them to lay flat against the unit, they seem to want to line it up differently to where the holes dont match, and only 1 notch fits in.

as for pics you can expect plenty! when i get the unit in haha

well as for the OEM brackets, the problem i was having wasnt that the holes werent lining up, its that they have these notches in them that wont allow them to lay flat against the unit, they seem to want to line it up differently to where the holes dont match, and only 1 notch fits in.

as for pics you can expect plenty! when i get the unit in haha

that is what they make hammers and vises for.... seriously. if you dont want/expect to have to do a little bit of modifying to get them to work then get the scosche kit ha1701b and be done with it. It is the "right way" anyway. just sayin...

So you recommend the scosche kit over the Metra Pilot kit? I've got the Metra kit, but if there's a big advantage in using the Scosche kit, I'll get one of those instead.

All of my components are sitting in a box awaiting the UPS guy to bring me a Sony RM-X4S remote control to add to the install. And I got distracted by doing the SC console install. Too many projects.:razz:

as much as i love the guys at metra, that kit is not "designed" to work with the element. if you see the post below there are gaps on the right side and in the corners that simply are not there on the scosche kit. they are aware of the need for another one and i have no doubts that when they put one out that is made for the element that it will fit as well as all their other kits do without the small gaps you get when using the pilot kit. now that CES is over and done we might see one sometime this year... cant promise anything though. until then, use the scosche kit, it fits wonderfully.

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=466611&postcount=1

Alright so I took it out today, pulled out my OEM radio, plugged in the new one, turned the car on, pressed the reset button like the guide says... and nothing... doesn't even seem like power is going to it?

Only thing im unsure about are those little red splice connects on the wiring.. I put the ends of the stripped wire in and then pinched the end, then taped them. (pics of them in my post on previous page)

Not Too sure what else to do besides changing the connectors to something like an amp male/female disconnect...

here's a pic of what all the connections inside looked like:
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02888.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02889.jpg

as much as i love the guys at metra, that kit is not "designed" to work with the element. if you see the post below there are gaps on the right side and in the corners that simply are not there on the scosche kit. they are aware of the need for another one and i have no doubts that when they put one out that is made for the element that it will fit as well as all their other kits do without the small gaps you get when using the pilot kit. now that CES is over and done we might see one sometime this year... cant promise anything though. until then, use the scosche kit, it fits wonderfully.

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=466611&postcount=1


Okay cool, so just to be clear, and sorry If I'm being anal here, but I want to do this just one time.

I need a scosche kit, but for the Element or the Pilot?

Alright so I took it out today, pulled out my OEM radio, plugged in the new one, turned the car on, pressed the reset button like the guide says... and nothing... doesn't even seem like power is going to it?

Only thing im unsure about are those little red splice connects on the wiring.. I put the ends of the stripped wire in and then pinched the end, then taped them. (pics of them in my post on previous page)

Not Too sure what else to do besides changing the connectors to something like an amp male/female disconnect...

here's a pic of what all the connections inside looked like:
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02888.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02889.jpg

You need to be digging out a 12V tester or multimeter and checking for 12V at your connections for the two power connections.

-the "switched" 12V + wire

and

- the "constant" 12V + wire.

Also good time to double-check your ground connections and, of course, fuses

okay cool, so just to be clear, and sorry if i'm being anal here, but i want to do this just one time.

I need a scosche kit, but for the element or the pilot?

scosche ha1701b

pull the main power connector off the factory harness and make sure none of the pins pushed out of the new harness or got bent when you put the two together. if they are all fine, do as recommended and check your constant and switched power wires (yellow and red) on the aftermarket side of the harness, both before and after your connections that splice the two together. maybe check the fuses for those before bothering getting the multimeter out.


Alright so I took it out today, pulled out my OEM radio, plugged in the new one, turned the car on, pressed the reset button like the guide says... and nothing... doesn't even seem like power is going to it?

Only thing im unsure about are those little red splice connects on the wiring.. I put the ends of the stripped wire in and then pinched the end, then taped them. (pics of them in my post on previous page)

Not Too sure what else to do besides changing the connectors to something like an amp male/female disconnect...

here's a pic of what all the connections inside looked like:

didnt have time to look before but just as you guys said the connections werent there, apparently when i pushed the unit in all the connectors i used came out, so im installing the m/f ones tonight because they arent as loose..

so here goes trial 2.. lol

In the past, I have had a little trouble with those quick type wire tap connectors myself. They just do not make a good connection like normal butt connectors or the insulated male/female type spade connectors do. Sometimes they work, but you have to make sure the wires lay exactly in the right spot and squeeze down real hard when making the connection so the metal part cuts into the insulation all the way and grabs a hold of the wire. They can be handy when you don't want to cut the wire completely that you're tapping into, but I'm not a real big fan of them.

I doubt that's your problem, but if everything else checks out OK, you might try replacing those with another type of connector.

well I'd go and scurry off to check the fuse boxes n groundings an ect if it was anything connected but the OEM radio works fine so shouldnt be any problem?

Put on m/f spade connectors now, when i cut the zip ties i had tolding them in i noticed that ALL of the connectors had pulled out, so the spade ones seem to be holding really well.

:D well I changed the connections to spades:
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02890.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02894.jpg

and then Got pretty excited so I went and hooked up up immediately and all working well! took it for a spin up the street, gps antenna seems ta b in good shape, microphone in a good place!

So far VERY happy with the unit! already notice a tremendous change in speaker output! No sub connected tho, I blew it about a month ago so I saw no reason to fuss with and connect it back but Ive got 4 Pioneer Premier TS-A633P in there so they produce pretty decent bass

Still waiting on the trim peice, Now you guys have me self conscience about buying the cheaper one and thinkin i really should go with the scosche?

Lastly my Ipod cable comes sometime this week or by the mid of next week, in the pic I have an aux cable hooked in but i took it off after the pictures.. I'll get better daylight ones up after i get the entire install finished!!

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02896.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02900.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02899.jpg

Schroom, glad to see how it looks in your E. I'm tackling my install this weekend as well. I have already done some of the prep work. The XM and GPS antennas are hidden under the cladding on the roof and the XM module is mounted behind the rear side panel exactly where the OEM XM module was. All cables from the antannas and xm module have been ran up to the dash and hidden away, ready to be connected to the head unit this weekend.

Two questions for you -

1- what are you going to do about the gap around the head unit? I'm heading off to some install shops this morning to see if I can find the Scosche kit recommended, curious why you didn't use it?

2- do you want your sub to work? I've got an extra sub I'll send you for free if you pay for shipping. It came with the SC console I just installed, but I already had a sub, so it's just sitting in my garage. PM me if you want it.

I've got to decide where I'm mounting the Sony wired remote I'm going to use with the head unit, where I'm mounting the microphone, and where I'm routing my ipod cable to. But I'll decide all that as I go along.

Glad to see you got it all working Shroom. I replaced all my connectors as well a while back. I suppose if we were working with a vehicle that had tons of room behind the radio unit, they might work out better, but the cluster of wires that ends up behind these AVIC's makes everything so crammed, I think those connectors just can't keep a good connection with all that pressure.

Well done!

Schroom, glad to see how it looks in your E. I'm tackling my install this weekend as well. I have already done some of the prep work. The XM and GPS antennas are hidden under the cladding on the roof and the XM module is mounted behind the rear side panel exactly where the OEM XM module was. All cables from the antannas and xm module have been ran up to the dash and hidden away, ready to be connected to the head unit this weekend.

Two questions for you -

1- what are you going to do about the gap around the head unit? I'm heading off to some install shops this morning to see if I can find the Scosche kit recommended, curious why you didn't use it?

I've got to decide where I'm mounting the Sony wired remote I'm going to use with the head unit, where I'm mounting the microphone, and where I'm routing my ipod cable to. But I'll decide all that as I go along.

Sounds like you've got it all planned out! I chose to do the hidden antenna in the front passenger side below the rubber wiper trim, seemed the easiest method that required as little removing of pieces as possible.

When i get the ipod cable I'm going to rout it into my glovebox so I can leave it in there and it doesnt have to slide around ect.

The reason I havnt used a trim kit at this moment is because I'm Still deciding on one to get, and I'm also going to paint it orange to match my dassh and to make it stand out a tad more. I do plan on getting the trim, just waiting on a paycheck! The Scosche kit recommended is about 18$ on ebay + around 9$ flat shipping So I was trying to find one a tad cheaper.. which is y i wanted to go with the AI one.. but Im hearing negative and positive things about both so its hard to decide... lol just rushed the install because I really wanted to start using it!

I'll Def pm about the sub!

and Thanks so much for all the help from every1!!

I def agree that theres very little space behind there, i sorta underestimated at first! Def like the spade connectors better than the others.

Thanks to everyone on this thread and in the "stickys", I finished up my install today. Wow, it looks and sounds great, awesome, stupendous, etc!!! Just waiting for XM to activate this radio to my account, and everything will be working. I can already receive the preview channel so I know all the connections are good and I'm getting XM signal. Also the iPod cable works perfectly with my 80GB iPod, including the video funtion. Bluetooth works, voice recognition works, Navigation works as far as showing me a map, al;though I haven't used it to route me anywhere yet.

Only thing that is a little disappointing is that my iPhone 3Gs kinda wigs the system out. If I plug it into the iPod cable, the headunit resets continuously. Not a big deal, since I would use the iPod 90% of the time anyway, I don't use my iPhne for music that much.

I know, without pictures, it didn't happen, I'll get some up later tonight.

Used the Scosche kit recommended by Yoda E SC, and I highly recommend it. No gap, no issues whatsoever, looks absolutely perfect!!!

Okay, some pics

Here's where the XM module is mounted

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_BZGNLpjlnco/S1Zn2m_JeXI/AAAAAAAAAX0/asR_5wCmrAM/s640/DSC00768.JPG

Unit turned off, look at how well the Scosche kit fits!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BZGNLpjlnco/S1Zn3a-0vXI/AAAAAAAAAX4/7wk2zHJ8e1k/s640/DSC00773.JPG

Action shot of iPod in use

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_BZGNLpjlnco/S1Zn5_IFYUI/AAAAAAAAAYA/haPXkPcDJCM/s640/DSC00775.JPG

XM Radio screen shot

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_BZGNLpjlnco/S1Zn6oO9o9I/AAAAAAAAAYE/yewehxCGWHg/s640/DSC00776.JPG

And finally, GPS screen shot

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BZGNLpjlnco/S1Zn7e3UiUI/AAAAAAAAAYI/06enpZW6pGU/s640/DSC00777.JPG

Love this thing, it is working flawlessly.

Wow! looks great! i love the location of your XM box! looks absolutely awesome!

im prob def getting that kit then, here in the next few days so once i get it and painted ill put it in and post more pics as well!

one thing that im still deciding is what are you doing with the old AUX port? i cant decided what to do with it..

My ipod is also working as well fantastically!, took me about an hour to figure out that it wasnt working because you have to turn it on in system settings.

Absolutely love the unit as well! works and does everything i could want it to do! only complaint is the long start-up time.

A little cross-posting here, but I posted over in the Interior forum about a cool spot to hide your iPod when you have a headunit that controls it. Here's a pic, details over in the Interior threads.


Gotta have the SC console to do this, but everyone should have an SC console, it is a deluxe mod!!!
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BZGNLpjlnco/S1iJSflGMcI/AAAAAAAAAZU/sl8w5Ir8lgc/s640/DSC00779.JPG

With the cupholder back in place

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_BZGNLpjlnco/S1iJRibLMFI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/0i1AXxHb97w/s640/DSC00778.JPG

Alright, Hooking up the Factory Sub...

I used a regular RCA cable like you'd find from a VCR, I cut off one of the pieces, striped it to pull out the shield and center. Now i then hooked them each up to an Amp Splice.

I installed it in my car, plugged everything in and then attached the amp splices to their correct ones, (rd/wht - Shield, rd/blu - center) turned it on and nothing really major...?

If i touch the sub i can feel vibrations at a very minimal level, but enough that you can tell a difference if you unplug it. (same w. my blown one so I know the subs are working)

Is there some sort of setting I have to changed? I made sure the sub is on..? maybe the amp splices arent doing a good enough job? or did I uce a wrong type of RCA cable?

In the AVIC, make sure the sub output is on. You can also adjust the output level and crossover point. If all that checks out OK, then check your sub RCA connection. Did you solder them? Make sure there is some kind of insulation between the center and the shield sides to prevent them from touching.

No I didnt do any soldering, I used connectors like:
http://www.customdynamics.com/Images/qsplice.jpg To attach them.

When I tamper with the AVIC settings all they seem to do is make the speakers have more bass.

when I connect the rca to the radio harness does it matter if I choose the red or white female rca?

It doesn't matter which sub output (L or R) you use.

I would guess your connection is the issue, especially with those quick-splice connectors.

I would guess your connection is the issue, especially with those quick-splice connectors.

which is exactly what it was. I switched and made on of the connectors I found on this thread: http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7310&page=4

So I made my own:

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02929.jpg

and hooked it up:

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab320/shroommastap/DSC02932.jpg

works great! only thing i had to do was remake it so my little pins were longer and stuck in further. Then I wrapped a zip tie really close to the base near the factory harness, then one around that but between the wires to hold them on to it. works fine when i shoved all those different wires back in there!

Only thing left now is to put on my trim when it comes in the mail after I paint it and its complete!

One question - any reason to not remove the excess wire from the parking brake lead? It's a tight fit in the dash for all these harnesses and I'd like to eliminate some bulk. I think I will also remove the unused speaker leads entirely from the Metra harness, again just to eliminate extra stuff.

Do I need a Honda antenna adapter like this?

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2005/120/h12040HD10-fp.jpg


Where do I connect the blue wire that is coming off of the adapter ??

Wow that was big.

Connect it to the blue power antenna lead coming from the Pioneer.

yes it was big

I hope you got the update v3.1 for your AVIC-700BT. It will make a big difference in how it works. Trust me on this one... I have AVIC-90BT and there are a lot less bugs than before, still not perfect but better.

when did the update come out?

when did the update come out?

July-Aug depending on where you lived... Pioneer was hard pressed to get it out. It comes with Map updates and the firmware update. The firmware is free but which comes bundled with the Maps. That means you have to buy it... however there are some guys that have been able to by-pass the security. Check out http://avic411.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=40 they is a lot of useful info.

I got the update on sale when it first came out for $69 (1/2 price). Worth every penny, and the new firmware makes the unit feel brand new. It loads and responds faster, and the touch sceen works MUCH better now. Even at $130, it's still cheap compared to other map updates I've seen for other brands.

Where Can I find the update? ive been searching google all night lol

Where Can I find the update? ive been searching google all night lol
Pioneer.com Update (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/CarAudioVideo/Accessories/NavigationUpgrades/CNSD-100FM)

Hey guys. I'm about to install the Avic Ub310. I just about have all my stuff in order. Thanks for this great thread. My question is, do I need to buy the KTC Trim Tool Set? How did you guys remove the trim? Flat head screw driver?

Thanks!!

No special tools required, a small flathead will work fine. Get down low and look up right above the HVAC controls under the lip of the trim piece that goes up around the radio. There are two small slots you can use the flathead to pop off the trim piece.

No special tools required, a small flathead will work fine. Get down low and look up right above the HVAC controls under the lip of the trim piece that goes up around the radio. There are two small slots you can use the flathead to pop off the trim piece.


Great! Thanks.

The first time I took my radio out I used a flat head and scratched my plastic..
Now I use a butter knife from the kitchen..Works great cause its flat and you won’t scratch anything..

The first time I took my radio out I used a flat head and scratched my plastic..
Now I use a butter knife from the kitchen..Works great cause its flat and you won’t scratch anything..
I put tape around the head of the screwdriver before I started it worked pretty good. But now I use paint can opener which works nice because it has a beveled angle head.

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Bringing this back up. I installed the software update this week, and I gotta say it is worth the money. Lots of new features in the navigation, but best of all the touchscreen works better in all functions, and its faster to boot up. Someone else said it makes it feel like a new headunit, and I would agree. Well worth it.

Bringing this back up. I installed the software update this week, and I gotta say it is worth the money. Lots of new features in the navigation, but best of all the touchscreen works better in all functions, and its faster to boot up. Someone else said it makes it feel like a new headunit, and I would agree. Well worth it.
Its not perfect but it is a lot better than it was before. The new X-series runs so much better than the F-series even though its the same hardware. There are some good hacks and mods over on Avic411.com (http://www.avic411.com)... enjoy.

quick question kinda off topic but related... since the rear view is available... would it support a front view camera as well? splitting the screen? and or switching the view when in reverse then drive? and or rear view front view and gps?

yes i know a little to much, but hey 21st century...

maybe in an avic z110bt?

I Dont see why it wouldnt be possible to have a switch in your dash that coordinated between the two cameras, Because the only reason the rear view turns on when hooked up is because reverse is engaged, you would just substitute one part of the switch, in theory works. for two cameras simultaneously? I dont think the unit is programmed for that. But I do remember seeing an option while playing with it where you could engage the camera while not in reverse.

You could use a Aux port on the front of your AVIC. I haven't tried but it is an input so I don't see why it wouldn't work

Hey all. I've combed through this forum and can't seem to find any good pics on running the sirius antenna. I've decided to install the sirius box in the rear of the car like shroom did (provided the cables reach the deck). Any suggestions on how to snake the antenna through the hatch and up to the roof without getting any leaks or damaging the hatch seals?
Thanks guys.

Hey all. I've combed through this forum and can't seem to find any good pics on running the sirius antenna. I've decided to install the sirius box in the rear of the car like shroom did (provided the cables reach the deck). Any suggestions on how to snake the antenna through the hatch and up to the roof without getting any leaks or damaging the hatch seals?
Thanks guys.

Think you mean hiram6, Not too sure how he went up to the outside, I know from looking back there, there is some areas made for that where you just have to cut the hole in the rubber. Hope This helps

Hey all. I've combed through this forum and can't seem to find any good pics on running the sirius antenna. I've decided to install the sirius box in the rear of the car like shroom did (provided the cables reach the deck). Any suggestions on how to snake the antenna through the hatch and up to the roof without getting any leaks or damaging the hatch seals?
Thanks guys.

Remove the plastic trim piece on the rear edge of the roof, drill a hole, run your wire using a rubber grommet and fill it with silicone. Put the trim piece back on and your antenna is completely stealth.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab232/jessebenner/JBL%20sub%20install/ElementAntennas02.jpg

Remove the plastic trim piece on the rear edge of the roof, drill a hole, run your wire using a rubber grommet and fill it with silicone. Put the trim piece back on and your antenna is completely stealth.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab232/jessebenner/JBL%20sub%20install/ElementAntennas02.jpg

Totally Trick!!! Thanks man!!!

1. Crossovers, where can I put them? Do I have any choice but the doors? There's like no room anywhere. The kick panels are the only option I've found;

2. How can I snake the speaker wires through the rubber door tube? Coat hanger? I can't even fit my finger through there. Did you guys take out the whole door panel to do this?; and

3. I'm drilling open the tweeter holes to fit the new tweeters, any ideas on how to attach the new tweeter brackets?

Thanks guys!!!

So im still a litter nervous a bout spending the money on the update. read a few not so amazing reviews on amazon... Any one here having really bad problems such as:


This has bugs (just like the F Series head units it is intended for).

Pioneer sells this as a map update, which presumably it is. It also helps make the touch screen work, where it never did before.

But it has bugs:
1. Boots into wrong screen
2. Screen goes black randomly
3. Drops Ipod connection frequently
4. More, noted by others. 1-3 I've been having with increased frequency.

The problem is, Pioneer isn't backing the problems. So you'll spend money, see a couple of improvements, then over time have a whole new set of frustrations.

The F Series units are much more stable with the Version 2 firmware releases.

Until Pioneer supports these, stay away.

This update improved many things, but left many unfixed. Your iPod will still not connect on every startup. The new maps are great but the new GPS system is much slower in responsiveness and routing. The touch screen is much more responsive, which is a great improvement. The startup time doesn't seem much faster. Overall, $60 was a bit much. The map updates should be the only thing you have to pay for. The screen response and other fixes should be free updates.

So im still a litter nervous a bout spending the money on the update. read a few not so amazing reviews on amazon... Any one here having really bad problems such as:

You should read all the reviews... also go to Avic411.com and read up there. If you can live with the buggyness then stay with what you have.

so i opted for the pdate. very glad i got it!! i don't notice a HUGE difference in the startup time but the touch sensitivity and the new map interface was worth it! worth 80$ to me... probably not.. but still glad I have it now!

so i opted for the pdate. very glad i got it!! i don't notice a HUGE difference in the startup time but the touch sensitivity and the new map interface was worth it! worth 80$ to me... probably not.. but still glad I have it now!

Congrats! Enjoy.