Installed the DVD Player in the Overhead storage bin. Audio plays through surround sound AUX in the Sony deck. Sound like a friggin' movie theater!
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No disrespect meant but I don't get the DVD in the car thing. Whassup with that?

>No disrespect meant but I don't get the DVD in the car thing. Whassup with that?

Same here, although I slightly understand the entertain-the-kids aspect for the back-seat systems. But in-dash? Now? Even here in St. Louis I know that the CHP has been cracking-down on driver-viewable vids. Heck, I have reservations about running my nav system on the next trip out there.

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Its just to add to the Audio System. Its great to listen to Live concerts, music videos, etc. Not like I watch the screen while I drive! C'mon Guys give me a lil credit :roll:

[quote:2e9c0847b4=" "]Its just to add to the Audio System. Its great to listen to Live concerts, music videos, etc. Not like I watch the screen while I drive! C'mon Guys give me a lil credit :roll:[/quote:2e9c0847b4]
Why not? I'd watch it! I probably kill people while doing so but if I had that setup it'd be running porn 24x7x365. :lol:

>Not like I watch the screen while I drive!

Oh, that wasn't my concern... anybody who has an E is operating on the plus side of the "common sense" scale. :lol:

It was just the prospect of "unwanted attention" that it would draw out there. One of our numbers (was it Shen?) got a whopper of a ticket a few months ago for lighting and tint mods.

But then, given the price of gas in CA right now, turning your car into a home theatre system might be a way to get the most cost-effective use out of it.

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[quote:d7bcb17945=" "]>Not like I watch the screen while I drive!

Oh, that wasn't my concern... anybody who has an E is operating on the plus side of the "common sense" scale. :lol:

It was just the prospect of "unwanted attention" that it would draw out there. One of our numbers (was it Shen?) got a whopper of a ticket a few months ago for lighting and tint mods.

But then, given the price of gas in CA right now, turning your car into a home theatre system might be a way to get the most cost-effective use out of it.

:wink:[/quote:d7bcb17945]

Yep... something like $280 for front tint, no front license plate, and hyper whtie turn signals.... grrr.rr.rr.rr

Damn, Cops! Isn't there a shooting, murder, or kidnapping they could be attending to? Oh wait, no front license plate, and tint... :shock: stop everything and get him! Doughnuts on me. :twisted:

I don't know about Cali, but on Long Island, I wish they'd hire another 5,000 traffic cops. 80-90 mph on parkways designed for 50 is "normal". Dipsh*t truck drivers that can't read hight warnings, and then crash into an overpass. In-car video, cell phone yacking, reading the paper while driving--all typical. And I guess I missed the announcement declaring all turn signals and stop lights optional.

[quote:8f7c275678=" "]Damn, Cops! Isn't there a shooting, murder, or kidnapping they could be attending to? Oh wait, no front license plate, and tint... :shock: stop everything and get him! Doughnuts on me. :twisted:[/quote:8f7c275678]

I'm a cop, and you have no idea how tired we get of hearing that crap. We have to enforce ALL of the laws, not just certain serious felonies. Furthermore, there are about 500% more traffic violations going on at any one time than there are murders, shootings and kidnapings. Where I work, we have a pretty serious gang and drug problem, yet there is a very vocal segment of the population who screams almost weekly that our department does nothing to stop people from speeding, running red lights, or various other minor violations. As for the doughnut comment, that ranks right up there with saying, "I didn't do it," when a cop walks in, or pointing to your friend and saying, "Here he is, I told you they were coming for you." Here's a tip: If you don't want to get in trouble, go to a library and check out your state's criminal and vehicle codes, and adjust your behavior in compliance with both. If you don't like a law, lobby your representative to change it.

Hey, I do respect your profession, :D I'm sure I wouldn't be able to do it. Just seems like petty things expecially here in San Jose get the most time devoted to. We do have a great police force, don't get me wrong. The old saying "There's never a cop around when you need one" applies here. I know you guys are people too. I guess each line of work has it's sterotypes, but you guys do seem to like doughnuts :D And I'd admit there are some sleazy used car salesmen in my profession. :D

>If you don't like a law, lobby your representative to change it.

Bingo. But, frankly, the tide has not been good lately - it's more like draining the ocean with a spoon. The pressure towards draconianism (a/k/a "zero tolerance") has quashed reasoned debate of realistic, effective solutions. I want to throw a brick at the TV every time a MADD harpy hogs the camera.

I was a traffic-laws lobbyist back in the "double-nickel" days. The biggest challenge was exposing the "lies, damn lies, and statistics". But not all of us can be lobbyists, and writing letters to representatives is often not very effective due to getting lost in the "noise".

Anyway, as we quipped then, the people were voting with their right foot, and turning the 55 limit into a joke which in turned weakened the effect of traffic laws everywhere. With 55, people came to the unconscious realization that safety and logic often had little to do with traffic law enforcement, while politics and moneyed influences did.

>...500% more traffic violations...

Of course. Actually, I hope it's more like 50,000% (500X). But the other side of this is that traffic and other "infraction" class laws are (correctly) perceived by the public as being enforced capriciously. There's a lack of consistency, and, in some circumstances, even perfectly reasonable and safe behavior is subject to being punished.

I know there are coppers out there who are shady, however the vast majority of us do things the way they are supposed to be done. As far as enforcing infractions consistently, how do you propose we do that? Stop everyone for every violation we see? That would keep us from responding to, "shootings, murders and kidnapings," since all we'd be doing is stopping cars for traffic violations. On the other side of the coin, we can cease stopping people altogether. That would make some people, who like to flaunt traffic laws, happy. See, most of the time, we have discretion in how we deal with certain things, including traffic laws. Many, many, many times, people have a tendency to talk themselves into tickets, either by being complete jerks, or flat out lying about what they did. I have given several people verbal warnings when they were courteous with me and admitted, "Yeah, I ran that stop sign back there," or something like that. However, when I walk up to a car and before I get a word out of my mouth, the driver says (or in one case, the driver's mother) "What the f*** did you pull me over for," that's going to buy them a ticket for whatever I stopped them for, plus any other "infractions," I can find. I, and most other officers I know, generally give between 10-15 mph over the speed limit before we stop a speeder. I personally give 15 mph, and that is what I consider your "break" if I pull you over. If you are doing 15 mph over, you get a citation, if you are doing 14 over, you don't get pulled over. Is that "capricious?" I think not. One thing I have learned in my 7 years as a copper, is that NOTHING I do will make anyone happy. If I stop a white person, I'm picking on him because I'm "afraid to mess with those (N-bomb)". If I stop a black person, I'm picking on them because they are black, and wouldn't even have stopped them if they were white. If I stop someone for running a red light, I'm too afraid to mess with the drug dealers two blocks away. If I mess with the drug dealers, I'm not attending to all the shootings, murders and kidnapings going on. Meanwhile, in between harassing all these people, most of the rest of my shift is spent responding to domestics and "9 year old out of control" calls. I love my job. I have to keep repeating that to myself.

[quote:291aa6966c=" "][quote:291aa6966c=" "]Damn, Cops! Isn't there a shooting, murder, or kidnapping they could be attending to? Oh wait, no front license plate, and tint... :shock: stop everything and get him! Doughnuts on me. :twisted:[/quote:291aa6966c]

I'm a cop, and you have no idea how tired we get of hearing that crap. We have to enforce ALL of the laws, not just certain serious felonies.[/quote:291aa6966c]

I'm sure nobody would disagree that all laws should be enforced, it just seems like the priorities are off.

The real truth is that a huge component to law enforcement is state revenue collection in the form of ticketing - it helps justify and fund police departments and a number of state programs. Am I saying that the police would rather write a ticket than stop a murder - of course not - but I am saying that they have a vested interest in relieving you of your money when ever possible. And in areas where they have no serious crime, the main objective tends to be revenue generation. Everything else costs them money.

[quote:3d03d5d004=" "]I have given several people verbal warnings when they were courteous with me and admitted, "Yeah, I ran that stop sign back there," or something like that. However, when I walk up to a car and before I get a word out of my mouth, the driver says (or in one case, the driver's mother) "What the f*** did you pull me over for," that's going to buy them a ticket for whatever I stopped them for[/quote:3d03d5d004]

Wow, you really paint a picture of objectivity there - if people piss you off you ticket them regardless of whethere or not they're innocent?

I think if a cop pulls you over he assumes you've broken the law. Innocence and guilt are up to the courts. I have no objections to civility earning you points. We need to do everything we can to encourage civility these days.

Back to the DVD thing. I've got to question the desire to amuse the kids. Our family might be the exception rather than the rule but our car time was some of the best, most focused time we spent together. We used to drive 180 miles every other week for saxophone lessons. While that may seem extreme it was a great opportunity to catch up with each other and I wouldn't trade that time for anything.

Any parent that sticks their kid in front of a screen for hours is doing their family a disservice. There I've said it. Start shooting.

In my state, at least, local departments get little of the revenue generated from citations. If I write someone a citation, the county my city is in gets a cut of the money, and the State also gets a cut. Most revenue (again, I'm referring to where I am) comes from taxes and other sources, including drug seizures. Of course, the State and county also get their cut of THAT money as well. Also, money obtained from drug seizures must be used to enforce the drug laws.
As for objectivity, I'm a cop, not a judge. I am not required to be impartial. Most traffic statutes are unambiguous, you are in violation or you are not. Furthermore, you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I can believe you are guilty all I want. However, I have arrested people that I was pretty sure were not guilty, because I had probable cause and a complainant who insisted on making a complaint. This is where the court system really does it's work. Usually a case like that will be dropped by the complainant eventually, or by the State's Attorney. I tell people all the time, "Look, right now, you are just being arrested, you aren't being convicted of anything. If you truly aren't guilty, let the system do it's job."

[quote:1ca1456a4e="cameraman"]Any parent that sticks their kid in front of a screen for hours is doing their family a disservice.[/quote:1ca1456a4e]

Label me "old fashioned" too! DVD movies are fine as an entertainment option, but they shouldn't be used as a parental proxy. Intentionally or not, many parents today seem to completely discount the value of the subtle social skills that children need to learn through interpersonal communciation with parents and siblings.

[quote:f14647b9c4=" "]I love my job. I have to keep repeating that to myself.[/quote:f14647b9c4]

For what it's worth, the few times I've been pulled over I hated it, but I was nice about it...didn't seem to get me out of the ticket though. :)

The couple of times cops came to my rescue (home invasion, domestic squabble), I was pretty damned happy about it.

The only times I've had trouble with cops that left a bad taste in my mouth have been at some political events. But that's at the intersection of politics and policing, and I don't think the cops were the only ones contributing to a bad environment there.

-brendan

[quote:50391c856b=" "][quote:50391c856b=" "]I have given several people verbal warnings when they were courteous with me and admitted, "Yeah, I ran that stop sign back there," or something like that. However, when I walk up to a car and before I get a word out of my mouth, the driver says (or in one case, the driver's mother) "What the f*** did you pull me over for," that's going to buy them a ticket for whatever I stopped them for[/quote:50391c856b]

Wow, you really paint a picture of objectivity there - if people piss you off you ticket them regardless of whethere or not they're innocent?[/quote:50391c856b]

eMass: read that again - he had at least one valid reason to pull him/her over. I think he was stating that if someone's going to be a ********, he'll go over the vehicle with a fine tooth comb to find extra violations.

Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Threatening* a cop tends to turn on all of their alarms for some reason. :)

-brendan

* yes, I know foul language is debatable on "threatening", but in most cases courts will back that.

[quote:b68fb84960=" "]>No disrespect meant but I don't get the DVD in the car thing. Whassup with that?

Same here, although I slightly understand the entertain-the-kids aspect for the back-seat systems. But in-dash? Now? Even here in St. Louis I know that the CHP has been cracking-down on driver-viewable vids. Heck, I have reservations about running my nav system on the next trip out there.

:?[/quote:b68fb84960]

Yeah, there's definitely a "cool" factor with having perma-installed DVD player, but it doesn't seem very functional. I'd rather (and am going to) buy a portable DVD player that I can take anywhere, and when I'm camping in the E! just prop it in the back so the wife and I can watch 'til our hearts' content!

What size DVD player is that in the overhead console. Is it a regular DIN unit? Does the console door close?

As for creating a stealth install, your mod is perfect!! :lol:

The DVD player is about DIN size, and yes the door closes