I parked my car at a parking lot and had a family medical emergency. I had to leave the car overnight and next morning found a 6 foot long scratch on the passenger side. Look's like it was done with a nail. Parking garage says they are not responsible for cars left overnight.

Any ideas, wonder how well the touch up paint will work here.

Ouch... that's definitely no good. Sorry to hear it! What color is your E? Touch up paint isn't available for Orange yet... and one other color that I can't remember... maybe green?

The touch up paint is available for the Green. I have a bottle (unopened) on my desk in the office. So far have not had a need for it, but my wife just got a hell of a scratch the last few days on our Mercedes. Looks like it got hit while parked. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Bummer, I have an orange E.

I would suggest a body shop. May cost alittle but get it done right.

Dear all,

Thanks to the first support from "The Rube"! Let's condemn the SOB! I believe that KEYING (this term is interesting. My cop friend correct me this way: instead of scratching, use Keying as a verb to describe SOB's action) is the only thing they can do on earth. Does this sound like greetings to all of you? A-HA!

I have a '03 EBP Element. I did not realize next morning until I saw the scratch extending from front passenger side door to the rear quarter panel.(they even keyed the plastic thing) I went to local Walmart store, and nearby market the night before. I parked the car on my driveway. There's no known suspect, so everyone is suspect. My family member joked about that, "What if I did that?"

PS: I remember I went to San Francisco earlier and parked at a residential street parking. It could happen that moment too.

I am afraid the keyed line on my E is longer than yours, my friend. The body shop cost me $500. The friend of mine thanks for such SOB, if not those SOB, they won't have extra income. To be honest with you, touch-up won't do good job for a long keying like that. But if you have spray paint tool at home, you may try.

I asked friends at the Police Department, and they got vandalised on the patrol cars and their own cars once in awhile. They said it's hard to stop such crime. Quote from a senior police officer, "We live in a complex society where bad things occasionally happen to good people."

Words from a Lieutenant, "problems are consistently one of the areas main concerns. People are crazy out there. Just take it in stride, smile, and continue on..." Will you smile when you see that keying thing??? Ask yourself many times...

Does anyone consider or already set up a surveillance in their E?

Elements deserve better! Good luck to all!

PS: I just loaded two photos of the car.

PS: It's bit late to reply to the original thread back to 3/19/03. I hope the original posting person will still be interested in seeing new postings.

What would you give to walk up on the SOB as he's doing this. I've had scratches on my other cars that look as if they were done on purpose and I know how angry I got. I also remember the first words out of my mouth, "Please God, let me catch the bastard that's doing this". Needless to say, I never did catch the person. Hope it's the only time it happens to ya......

Wow that is a Horse**** thread... So your car got scratched...big deal its a car....its going to get scratched, dented, barfed in, wet,dirty, cracked windshield, flat tire,etc.... its a way of life. It can't stay new forever..... if you want to fight over it in Iraq, Have a Good Time.....We wish you well :twisted:

People like you dont care about other peoples property as we do. we take good care of our own things such as our own elements and hope others also are so curtious enough to respect other peoples property. If you dont care about your element who will??

Wow that is a Horse**** thread... So your car got scratched...big deal its a car....its going to get scratched, dented, barfed in, wet,dirty, cracked windshield, flat tire,etc.... its a way of life. It can't stay new forever..... if you want to fight over it in Iraq, Have a Good Time.....We wish you well :twisted:
Now thats a horse**** reply.
A scratch and a dent are not in the same line up as getting barfed in, wet,dirty, cracked windshield, flat tire,etc.....
Everything but a scratch / dent can be easily cleaned / handled in a matter of minutes.
Yes it is a car, life goes on, but if you have no value for your belongings why do you bother to own anything. How would you like someone to kick your dog? It is only a dog, life goes on.

I would have the dealer look at the damaged. If not taking care of it will lead to corrosion and further damage quickly.

Now thats a horse**** reply.
A scratch and a dent are not in the same line up as getting barfed in, wet,dirty, cracked windshield, flat tire,etc.....
Everything but a scratch / dent can be easily cleaned / handled in a matter of minutes.
Yes it is a car, life goes on, but if you have no value for your belongings why do you bother to own anything. How would you like someone to kick your dog? It is only a dog, life goes on.

I would have the dealer look at the damaged. If not taking care of it will lead to corrosion and further damage quickly.


I'm with you all the way on this one MTP!!!

What America needs is some public caning for senseless acts of vandalism. I know I would have benefited from it in my youth.

Any ideas, wonder how well the touch up paint will work here.

If I were in your shoes, I would put in a comprehensive claim, yes it would suck to pat that deductable, but I would just do it. I don't think touch up paint does a good job for a long scratch like that.

Take it to a body shop and have it done right. Make a insurance claim and pay your deductable. HHHMMM That is considered vandalism.....I have state farm ins. and there is ZERO deductable on vandalism!!! On the policy i have that is.......and thats just regular full coverage.

Wow that is a Horse**** thread... So your car got scratched...big deal its a car....its going to get scratched, dented, barfed in, wet,dirty, cracked windshield, flat tire,etc.... its a way of life. It can't stay new forever..... if you want to fight over it in Iraq, Have a Good Time.....We wish you well :twisted:

Yeah, true...it's just a car and all that stuff, but dig this...

Most people who buy this car do so because it fits their needs, they like the Honda reliability and let's face it...it's in their price range. In other words...comparatively cheap.

Just for fun sake, check out your local supermarket parking lot, and dollars to donuts you'll find strong anecdotal evidence that suggests most people don't get those dings and scratches repaired. It's easy enough to figure out why: because it's cosmetic, expensive and a deductible expense - an expense that most people are not apt to report because God Forbid Their Insurance Goes Up.

We're not talking about BMW or Hummer types here. We're talking Honda owners. While it's true that there are some wealthy folk out there driving this brand, its a safe bet to figure that MOST OF US are not rolling in the green.

Surely it's not that hard to understand why some might get frosted when they're faced with the handiwork of automotive sociopaths who get their rocks off by defacing someone else's something nice.

just fwiw, H&A does sell SOP touch-up paint. i've already used my bottle on a few rock chips on the hood. its doens't look as new, but at least it is sealed.

Hey,

Bummer for your E. Man, a SIX Foot long scratch! They definitely had some issues against your E.

When my E was two weeks old I went to a Restaurant in Garden City, Long Island to have Sushi and the next day while cleaning my E I noticed that someone had used a boxcutter or similar to make a six inch cut in my RF Quarter Panel Cladding (almost cut all the way through)!

If I ever catch the SOB or anyone else vandalizing my E they'll have to pay the price, i.e. I'm gonna take something they'll need (for life) for their daily activities and keep it as a trophy (and believe me it won't be an inanimate object).

OTH - For those that don't care about dings/dents/scratches you're full of it. Then why did you buy an unblemished vehicle off the lot? I rest my case.

Thx, Phil

Hey,

Bummer for your E. Man, a SIX Foot long scratch! They definitely had some issues against your E.

When my E was two weeks old I went to a Restaurant in Garden City, Long Island to have Sushi and the next day while cleaning my E I noticed that someone had used a boxcutter or similar to make a six inch cut in my RF Quarter Panel Cladding (almost cut all the way through)!

If I ever catch the SOB or anyone else vandalizing my E they'll have to pay the price, i.e. I'm gonna take something they'll need (for life) for their daily activities and keep it as a trophy (and believe me it won't be an inanimate object).

OTH - For those that don't care about dings/dents/scratches you're full of it. Then why did you buy an unblemished vehicle off the lot? I rest my case.

Thx, Phil

Again, I agree. I think what jerks my chain the most is not the scratch in itself (Lord knows how many I'll get in the time I own my SOP) but rather that some S>O>B> went out of his way to do damage to something that someone else owns. The thought of some jerk finding pleasure in doing this bothers me to no end. In the end its not the scratch, its the "scratchee" :evil:

Man, listen to you guys get all hot and bothered over vehicular vandalization.
Well, here's a little fuel for your fire in the form of a couple video links.
That "little" 6' scratch won't seem so bad after watching these.

*WARNING- Bad Words A Plenty For Your Virginal Ears*


This guy doesn't like car windows, but loves what's behind them:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/carthieframpage.html

This guy only dislikes PT Cruisers:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/crazyguy.html


...and just to keep it somewhat on topic, here's a vid of too old farts fist fighting with a familiar boxy plastic paneled vehicle in the back ground.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/oldguyfight.html

I think they were fighting over who had the better fake fogs.:twisted:

Now thats a horse**** reply.
A scratch and a dent are not in the same line up as getting barfed in, wet,dirty, cracked windshield, flat tire,etc.....
Everything but a scratch / dent can be easily cleaned / handled in a matter of minutes.
Yes it is a car, life goes on, but if you have no value for your belongings why do you bother to own anything. How would you like someone to kick your dog? It is only a dog, life goes on.

I would have the dealer look at the damaged. If not taking care of it will lead to corrosion and further damage quickly.

Good reply.

I don't know exactly why, but for some reason Hondamade4Dogs has some attitude issues when it comes to other Element owners and how they feel about dings, scratches and the exterior of their vehicle that happen while parked out there in the "real world".

I'm not sure he would be so nonchalant about it all had the horrific scratch from a nail along the side of his own Element happened.

An experience like that does indeed make one feel violated with the end result leading to being pretty darn ticked off. I've had 2 cars "scratched" with some device by vandals (one even initialed his "handywork"). And I had all 4 tires slashed while parked in a parking garage in Houston (along with an entire row of cars - about 24 in total). Everyone's tires were slashed and when we came out to our cars at the end of the work day you can imagine how surprised and ticked off we were.

It happens and it is not fun when it happens. Very difficult for me to imagine somebody so nonchalant about it as HondaMade4Dogs. :-o

LeadFoot

Wow that is a Horse**** thread... So your car got scratched...big deal its a car....its going to get scratched, dented, barfed in, wet,dirty, cracked windshield, flat tire,etc.... its a way of life. It can't stay new forever..... if you want to fight over it in Iraq, Have a Good Time.....We wish you well :twisted:

You'll never work for the company that makes these babies. Ever. You should see a shrink and find out what happened to you as a kid that made you a complete idiot ...

Imagine you in a parking lot parked and this guy HONDAMADEFORDOGS comes and parks right next to you???? and then he opens his doors like he dont care??? cause he dont care of his own ride.

I just would hate for him to come and park next to my E. :|

Imagine you in a parking lot parked and this guy HONDAMADEFORDOGS comes and parks right next to you???? and then he opens his doors like he dont care??? cause he dont care of his own ride.

I just would hate for him to come and park next to my E. :|


My friend, I don't see the posting from this "HONDAMADEFORDOGS" thing . Where did you find that?

that is because he / or the mods have gone and erased his replies.
If you read from the beginning I quoted his first reply which start most of this.

I don't know if HONDA...DOGS deleted his postings, or the mods, but the fact is he stated an opinion (a radical one, granted) that was worthy of discussion. It was the personal attacks against him that were way out of line and should have been deleted, not his opinions.

Ad Hominem attacks are never, ever appropriate.

Thank you !

I don't know if HONDA...DOGS deleted his postings, or the mods, but the fact is he stated an opinion (a radical one, granted) that was worthy of discussion. It was the personal attacks against him that were way out of line and should have been deleted, not his opinions.

Ad Hominem attacks are never, ever appropriate.
I agree, but I would like to know on what basis that opinion was formed on, especially the Iraq war part. :?

I can't even tell you, the posts have been altered, and changed, and I can't remember what the original post said. :-o ..but It must of been a "wild hair"...and then all hell broke loose... :shock:

and then the attacks came..... :shock: :-o :x

So it was the Moderators that deleted your postings. Well, everyone makes mistakes once and awhile.

Dear Mods: Opinions (unless advocating violence or illegal activity) are good things. Attacks against people making opinions are bad things, e.g. "You'll never work for the company that makes these babies. Ever. You should see a shrink and find out what happened to you as a kid that made you a complete idiot ..."

its ok...I keep posting stuff about elements... :roll:

Oh...My dog...and the Kicking....Well if you read all the posts in all the categories, then your wish had come true....BUT It wasn't a kick, but he did have body damage.......We are headed to the vet this morning to have the 32 stitches removed ! :| THERE ! :lol:

so I missed a lot or responses as well. I only saw the first and then his picture of 2 dings.

So it was the Moderators that deleted your postings...."
Nope, not us.
Self deletion.
Everybody calm down. You have to view things in different perspectives. Some folks aren't as worried about scratches and dents as others are. Hondamade4dogs is very protective over their dogs whereas for some people their Elements ARE their dogs. A scratched fender is like a gashed leg.


Now I have to go, as I'm having my car neutered...........and I think it has worms.

Nope, not us.
Self deletion.My mistake. Reasonable move by Honda.Dogs considering the excitement it caused, but everyone should try to react to opinions in a calm and considered manner.

Use this for a little self-control training:
"The Aztec is the most beautiful car ever made."
"Speed limits should be set at 50 to save oil."
"All Element colors now and forever are inferior to GG."
"You're not a man, or woman, until you windshield breaks!"

I don't know if HONDA...DOGS deleted his postings, or the mods, but the fact is he stated an opinion (a radical one, granted) that was worthy of discussion. It was the personal attacks against him that were way out of line and should have been deleted, not his opinions.

Ad Hominem attacks are never, ever appropriate.

I must disagree ... just because this is the net, it should not let you slide from any responsibility of pompasness because you are anonymous. Had it been a hall full of people discussing scratches, would 4dogs have stood up and said, "This is HorseSh#$" I doubt it very much. So if you put comments you know are going to cause flames you should examine why you have this devious side that only comes out when no one can see you.
1.There is the you your workmates know
2.There is the you your wife / girlfriend knows
3.There is the you your parents / friends know.
4.Then, there is the you only you know.
So you can say I was incorrect for calling him an idiot, if you must. Would I have called him an idiot in a room filled with people discussing scratches? You bet ...

And the Iraq comment sums this up!!!!!

Perhaps he will think about the next time he is being # 4 and actually contribute something useful.

Off my chest and worth any abuse all you # 4’s fire my way …..

I AM YZR NU

just because this is the net, it should not let you slide from any responsibility of pompasness because you are anonymous I AM YZR NUAnd it shouldn't allow you to make personal attacks. Attacks on positions and ideas are good. Attacks on people are bad as they don't advance our understanding of the person's position, and represent the worst in human behavior.

As intelligent beings it's our responsibility to point out idiotic statements, whether they come from the smartest people or the dumbest. It's the statements that are important, not the person making them.

Try it. You'll find you will prevail in demonstrating the idiocy of ideas, while all participants have the luxury of remaining "anonymous".

I specifically bought my E so I could stop worrying about it getting scratches. Of course I don't want them, but they are nothing to get upset about.

And I word on arguing...

I specifically bought my E so I could stop worrying about it getting scratches. Of course I don't want them, but they are nothing to get upset about.

In theory - that's all okay. However, please let us know how cool and calm you are when a big ole nasty scratch happens on your E. Snap a photo, post it on the forum and tell us all "it was nothing to get upset about". :grin:

And I word on arguing...

Gee, that's a politically correct photograph/slogan combo to be PROUD of posting on an internet forum.... :-x

LeadFoot

Yes, I am type that would of stood up and said it is no big deal...you can't change it once you have been scratched...What are you going to do...beat up the invisible man ? Because 9 out of 10 times the person that has scratched your car is long and gone ! And that was the point i was trying to get across, its not like I don't care about my car..but crying over it will get you no where..... :-o So It was a stupid thread :evil:

Yes, I am type that would of stood up and said it is no big deal...you can't change it once you have been scratched...What are you going to do...beat up the invisible man ? Because 9 out of 10 times the person that has scratched your car is long and gone ! And that was the point i was trying to get across, its not like I don't care about my car..but crying over it will get you no where..... :-o So It was a stupid thread :evil:

I realize the thread did get off on a bit of a moaning/ranting about being ticked off if damage is inflicted on your vehicle while not watching, but let's not lose sight of the original reason the thread was started. Mike1007 wanted to know any ideas about either touching up the scratch with Honda touch up paint - or suggestions from others who may have found themselves in the same type of damage situation and how or even if they repaired it.

Here is his post:

I parked my car at a parking lot and had a family medical emergency. I had to leave the car overnight and next morning found a 6 foot long scratch on the passenger side. Look's like it was done with a nail. Parking garage says they are not responsible for cars left overnight.

Any ideas, wonder how well the touch up paint will work here.

So you are incorrect in stating that once the damage has been done you cannot do anything about it. You can do something about it (after crying and moaning about it). You can repair the damage. Whether your bumper gets smacked in a parking lot, a shopping cart dings or scratches your door, another car door's metal meets the metal of one of your doors while parked, etc... - you can repair it. It is the owner's prerogative.

What it comes down to in the end is prerogative. Ours and owners like yourself.

You feel/think/opine that those of us who use our prerogative to repair the damage along with our moaning about the damage in the first place are "crazy".

And those of us who indicate we would use that prerogative feel, in turn, that your nonchalant stance of not repairing the damage and taking the side of "it's gonna happen anyway, so c'est la vie..." is crazy.

Cosmetics are important to some and not to others. It's our prerogative to handle it how we want without having to be considered "crazy" for it.

LeadFoot (who also repairs all the paint nicks and scratches on my mountain bikes to protect the metal from corroding underneath)

CATBBQ, I hope your post #35 was just a one time brain fart. If not it appears you are in worse condition than the OLYMPIC runner in your post.

Yes, I am type that would of stood up and said it is no big deal...you can't change it once you have been scratched...What are you going to do...beat up the invisible man ? Because 9 out of 10 times the person that has scratched your car is long and gone ! And that was the point i was trying to get across, its not like I don't care about my car..but crying over it will get you no where..... :-o So It was a stupid thread :evil:

No big deal would have been a somewhat cool response 4Dogs, but Horsesh@# is an uncool response in an environment where everyone comes here to communicate because we all have something in common, we like or love our Elements. If you thought the thread was Horsesh@#, why did you just not ignore it and read some others. I know why and so do you.... # 4. Control your Dark Side .... Go outside and give some change to a homeless person instead when you get these urges. You may save a life.
Rob.....

This guy only dislikes PT Cruisers:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/crazyguy.html
Dont call me prudish but I actually just called Las Vegas PD and gave them the link to this video. I am sorry but I would be absolutly terrified if that we as me in the car. I really feel for the person in the Cruiser and since this guy shows his face clearly on the video maybe they can go and find him. It just sickens me to see video of people like that in the world. I know they are there but to see them is a whole other ball of wax.

No big deal would have been a somewhat cool response 4Dogs, but Horsesh@# is an uncool response in an environment where everyone comes here to communicate because we all have something in common, we like or love our Elements. If you thought the thread was Horsesh@#, why did you just not ignore it and read some others. I know why and so do you.... # 4. Control your Dark Side .... Go outside and give some change to a homeless person instead when you get these urges. You may save a life.
Rob.....

LOL

HAHA , HONDA4DOGS got cought out there, he did leave out all the remarks that he orignially said and to cover it up he deleted his original post.
this is too funny.
:lol:

Dont call me prudish but I actually just called Las Vegas PD and gave them the link to this video. I am sorry but I would be absolutly terrified if that we as me in the car. I really feel for the person in the Cruiser and since this guy shows his face clearly on the video maybe they can go and find him. It just sickens me to see video of people like that in the world. I know they are there but to see them is a whole other ball of wax.


WOW TESSA, I didnt think of that. IM GLAD YOU DID!!! Hope what you did helps get this loser out of the street and in Jail where he belongs. but hope you also sent the other videos that EMPIRE posted. I was so pissed watching that.

Hello Tesssa and All,

I just saw the guy "beating: thje PT Cruiser. How brutal. If he was standing in front of my car, I would have just ran over him and claimed "amnesia" to the police.

CATBBQ, I hope your post #35 was just a one time brain fart. If not it appears you are in worse condition than the OLYMPIC runner in your post.

I second that opinion.....and I also hope his screen name doesn't mean what it sounds like....there's a lot of us that have family members of the feline persuasion.

Hello Tesssa and All,

I just saw the guy "beating: thje PT Cruiser. How brutal. If he was standing in front of my car, I would have just ran over him and claimed "amnesia" to the police.
I would have claimed self defence to the police and RETRIBUTION to anyone else :twisted:

What would you give to walk up on the SOB as he's doing this. I've had scratches on my other cars that look as if they were done on purpose and I know how angry I got. I also remember the first words out of my mouth, "Please God, let me catch the bastard that's doing this". Needless to say, I never did catch the person. Hope it's the only time it happens to ya......

Many thanks to you! I'll just be cautious and careful from now on. I just bought a baseball bat for that SOB...:)

Let's just keep on smiling...

Dont call me prudish but I actually just called Las Vegas PD and gave them the link to this video.
It's probably going to be slightly old news for them tho. The video has been passed around on the net for well over a year now and can be seen on the Bum Fights 3 video from what I've heard.

I can't even tell you, the posts have been altered, and changed, and I can't remember what the original post said. :-o ..but It must of been a "wild hair"...and then all hell broke loose... :shock:

and then the attacks came..... :shock: :-o :x

I was mad because it was the first scratches to my Element. (I hope there won't be any after this.) Bro, I check out your personal profile, and notice that you are liveing with dogs. I believe you are a dogs lover. I also believe your screen name doesn't offend me or anyone else if they know who you really are. There's no need to fight between Element owners. We all hope our Elements to deserve good things, and hope to get the benefit from driving it, not just to commute or carry stuff on it. This is what we are here for. Right?
I just so happen to find the online forum that talks about Element. We are lucky to have such website to discuss things and let our opinion heard by someone else. Good luck bro!:)