My guess is that there quite a few Element owners who are software developers like myself.

Just curious who you are...

I'm not a software developer (can only count in binary) but have been an IT person since 1988!
8)

QA Engineer.
I only develop tools to squash your dreams! :-)

I just try to market what you all develop!

I keep your servers & network running, and sometimes explain that there is no "ANY" key.

I'm the one who tells you that there is no default ip address and that a subnet mask is not logo merch from the company store.


-jdef

Software developer - checking in, sir... 8)

Peace-

T Mac
Site Admin, Founder
Element Owners Club
www.elementownersclub.com
tom@elementownersclub.com

Software Engineering Manager

I was a software developer for 10 years until going over to the dark side (management).

Regards,
SOL

I'm a software developer. Realtime Embedded systems. Everything from missle defense to satellites to roadway speedtraps

Website developer checking in

http://www.ddmweb.com

Programming instructor here...get my E Friday.



*** Always on the lookout for the dreaded ID - 10 - T errors ***

:lol:

Not a developer, but an IT Services Specialist for a three-letter company. :D

Iskie

Network Admin here...

I'm just a web designer. Hardware is the specialty of my husband who builds computers for fun and profit.

My brother wants an Element now too and he's a network admin.

I currently go to school at muhlenberg college, a small liberal arts school in allentown, pa. I'm a comp. sci. major and a math minor...I graduate in May and I'm looking to be a software engineer. Anyone know any good companies to work for?

I'm a musician who does some development of websites, training CDs and multimedia... but I'm no "coder." I do work for a software developer though! If you need any staffing database software, may I humbly recommend PCRecruiter (http://www.pcrecruiter.com) products? :)

Drew

Cool, what kinda music do you do?

I'm in a band, too. Technoindustrialpseudogoth kinda stuff.

i'm a software developer...
still in university tho...co-op programs

I am a Comp sci major at UC Riverside. Does that count?? :D Only a second year right now.

I have been in the IT business since the early 80's after leaving behind 15 years in telephone switching technology. Currently supporting and teaching COBOL debugging tools, mainframe testing utilities and workstation automated testing tools. Fluent in COBOL, SAS, REXX, ISPF, CLIST, VB6, HTML, VBS and TSL (a C derivative).

I bought the E (blue) last week after 3 Chevy S-10 Blazers. So far - very cool car with best sound I have ever had in a vehicle. Hope many years of enjoyment are ahead. :P

Novell Systems Engineer 5.0
Working on 6.0 CNE
Administrate over 500 Novell Servers, 50 or so Windows 2K servers and 3 linux servers.
More than 35000 workstations at my control..... :twisted:

Actually with the help of 8 other admins...

AndyCElement

I develop ulcers as a project manager for an automation and information systems corporation. This x5 years, 20 years Rx prior to that.

Nothing is idiot proof to a sufficiently talented idiot.

It's not stupid, it's advanced!

Not a developer, but I've been in IT since it was called EDP! :shock:

Began IT in 1972 as a mainframe computer operator. Been in IT Security since 1985. :oops:

Proud owner of a SOP EX 4WD for 6 weeks, 2 days and 3K miles! 8)

I'm the lowest rung in the ladder (and they stuck the ladder in the mud) desktop support person. However, I own an E. Isn't this a great country?

Software developer checking in here. Of course that's not all I do, but it's what I like to do most! :!:

I am a IT guy. Program/project manager. Purchased a Element two weeks ago.

I'm a software developer too. Started in 1981 and have been doing it professionally since 1987. I purchased a GG 4WD EX this Saturday.

I'm a graphic artist, but I don't do any programming. Does anyone else use a 3D program such as Lightwave 3D? I was thinking about trying to model an Element.

I'm an Oracle DBA/Developer. I've had my E for almost two months now. 4500 miles already (most from a road trip of 2000 miles).

[quote:fb679929a3="robTX"]I'm a graphic artist, but I don't do any programming. Does anyone else use a 3D program such as Lightwave 3D? I was thinking about trying to model an Element.[/quote:fb679929a3]

I haven't used that but I use Maya. I might try my hand at making an E once I get done with my java midterm.

I'm a software programmer. I've done various programming jobs the last 5 years.
I'm currently the Build Master here...

web/erp programmer here, soon to be .net capable :)

[quote:38da0d59e1="MistyMills"]I'm just a web designer.[/quote:38da0d59e1]
Sure you are...

Misty, I think you are really Bjork! If that's you in the avatar, you must either be Bjork or you're her long lost twin sister separated at birth! :wink:

Do you think that just by turning that picture 90 degrees to the left you're gonna fool everyone? Admit it! You like the Element, you know you want to scream it out to the entire world!

See for yourself:

Misty:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mdunaway/rpg/me-icon64.jpg
Bjork:
http://unit.bjork.com/specials/pics/misc/37094A.jpghttp://unit.bjork.com/specials/pics/misc/sq_bjork_alarm_call_close_head_elek.gif

Coincidence? I think not! :lol:

I'm a software developer.

I write software for handheld computers and I am also a handheld computer consultant.

Web Applications development for B To B. Currently use MS .NET C#. Have done Java, VB and some C.

QA Engineer/tools developer.

Yes...

Manager, Software Engineering 2b || !2b

Product manager for a software company.

Bob

Software Developer for about 7 years.

However, I don't pick up my SMM EX-S element until 5pm pst, so don't count me until then!

Yo 8) - Software Developer here. primarily vc++ (6.0/7.0/.net), COM/DCOM stuff.

=]

I'm surprised I haven't seen any Linux references here. E's and Linux have a lot in common; particularly raving, slightly offbeat, fans. ;-)

I'm an embedded Linux guy specializing in WLAN applications. Anyone been out wardriving in their E?

VB6, ASP, COM/DCOM, Java (J2EE, etc), Oracle, COBOL, etc etc.. Yes.

I was the last person in my class to take Cobol 1987 (B.S. C.S.) My teacher said it is a dead language. HA been programming in it for 16 years and still going strong. I like assembler more but Cobol put the element in the garage. Of course programmers and developers are now loosing our jobs to our indian counter parts. SEE you in INDIA.

Web/Digital media designer/marketer

develop this, A program that can teach your kids spelling words. You would get the spelling words at the beginning of the week from the teacher, load them into the program and then have the program run some type of games to teach the kids how to spell the words. I have been going crazy working with my 3rd grader on her spelling words. Naturally she does not know I am going crazy I am patient with her, but there has got to be a better way!

PS - :D you would make a ton of money on this idea.

Currently I'm an independent developer doing Palm OS, Mac and Windows development. I've been writing code since (...ahem...), down to and including operating system drivers.

>Of course programmers and developers are now losing our jobs to our indian counter parts.

Yes. Sucks, doesn't it? I like it that all the pundits claim that "we're pulling out of the recession" when there are thousands of IT - and now engineering - unemployed/underemployed. At one time we threw a lot of money at the economy, and now many of us are making near-minimum wage at Wal-Mart in the futile hope of postponing bankruptcy.

My solution at the moment is that when I discover that a software product or IT-related service is being supported or coded out of India, that product loses my business.

:evil:

Mike, I can tell you I empathize with your issue, my husband (a programmer that has posted on this thread) has recently lost his job. He has also worked closely with an Indian team, they have a sybiotic relationship though I know many products have gone exclusively overseas. My answer to this problem, which affects many industries, is do a better job then they can. Indians are getting the contracts because they are working harder for less money to create the same results. They are educated in the same universities. Boycotting is not the answer and in fact shows intolerance and ignorance. The boom of the late 90's created overinflated salaries and programmers that are unwilling to work as hard for less are pushing jobs away from us. I have seen first hand, many overpaid coders that work a 3 hour day and take every other day off (would we see the Indians doing this?)
I have to say, my husband does work harder than most of the people he has worked with over the years (12 hour days, weekends, 4 AM commute)but he was even overpaid for his experience level (sorry honey).

I had my last day at work last thursday. :cry: This after moving my family 600 miles for a Company that kept me employed for 17 months. I have watched the work place litterly fall apart in the past 13 years. I often feel like crying a long with employees. No one cares about anyone anymore. I believe in business decisions, but I also believe in compassion and dignity in the workplace. Well back to my job search.. Peace :wink:

On MSN Money today
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/invest/extra/P62115.asp

to get our coffee shops going. Sad news. :cry:

Barely a thing said in that article about the pay difference between the technical and service sectors, which in my observation is roughly 2:1. I also saw a news report somewhere else that total wages going overseas would be somewhere near $200 billion in the span from 2000-2005.

In a nutshell, we are returning to a society of one-earner households, but unlike before there is simply no moral imperative for employers to protect individuals' jobs. It's going to be a rough, rough ride.

:cry:

Thing is everyone there are acheles heels in the whole India outsourcing model.

There are major differences in culture understanding and word views.
Americans like it or not belive in a pioneering individualism that just doesnt exist other places.
We value John Wayne, Bruce Springsteen, Arnold Swartnager (spelling but you get the point) we love sep styled individuals not confomists.

Look to build things where thay cant compete!

DOD work etc is a natural but think inside the box (see this is an Element group!)

What things are hard to understand for people who have a procedural focus? American styled applications not one sizefits all

Also niche markets small things where no one with 200 developers in India would ever think is important.

I have a buddy who has built and developed software for Home Owners associations (Yes the Civil Police) he does great doesnt care about other markets and pulls 2-4 mil in licenseing and support on six staff members

Going thru the old posts and read this one. I'm an IBM mainframe systems programmer, starting in DATA PROCESSING (what's with this I.T. crap?) in 1974. USMC, electronics firm, steel mill, aerospace, retail and now in a major HMO.

Fifteen or so years ago the announced the extinction of the mainframe. Guess what? Still here, bigger, faster and more reliable than ever. If I or anyone of my peers would've coded something like Windows, we would've been laughed out of the industry and never worked again. I can't imagine anything more unstable. Just the other day I was sitting here researching some hand written notes I had (i.e. not using the PC) and when I turn around I've got the blue screen of death. I would've been fired if I designed something that crashed all by itself.

http://wissh.com/
my husband creates software that is his site.. spread the word..

He is a network manager currently.. and has done a million things over the years and through the closings.. his last job he had to train his Indian replacements.. 5 people for his one job.. and 5 each to each other 1 American they also replaced.. sad.

So on the note made previously about Indian's working harder.. regardless of country or race.. anyone who does not know the job as well has to work twice or more as hard to do the job even half as well as someone who is highly experiences in it.. sooo

as far as once being overpaid.. it is the knowledge and ability companies were once paying for.. not how "hard" the work was to do.. but...

evetually companies tried to ecomonize and started bidding jobs and looking for the lowest bids.. replacing those who knew what they were doing for cheap labor.. this is where India came in.. they are very cheap labor.. and willing to give it a go..

Now i will try and make it clear.. yes Indians are very very very very smart people over all.. but the people who they are giving these American jobs to, do not know the jobs they are taking and are doing a horrible job..

In time when companies see things crashing and burning hopefully they will wake up and beg for the experienced to please please come back.

I worked for a tech company that largely support Dupont.. but when Dupont Pharm (the division i supported specifically) was bought by bristol myers.. there went that job.. and a bunch of us lost our jobs.. poof gone.

The dupont started closing down various plants, and thinning out there company further.. now they chose to rebid their tech support.. and the company i formerally worked for who had this pride issue that they supported Dupont for all those years, and knew them so well.. they really thought they would not lose dupont.. poof gone..

So now that tech company lost the vast majority of their business within a year.. all those who supported dupont.. they now lost their jobs.. and for those who are left, well heck we just can not afford to maintain this locaiton.. so you too are now out of a job.. a whole huge building of people out of jobs.. what was left was sent to Canada..

So in DE, such a small state.. you have this large group of tech people who have lost their jobs to people in India, more people due to Dupont Pharms buy out.. and more due to thinning out of DUpont... and even more due to the tech support that depended on Dupont..

Dupont WAS huge here in DE.. now the jobs are scarce.. people who were making nearly 6 figures now are at McDonalds.. it is disgusting.

But yup this is life..

OK so yes i am a computer person so is my hubbie.. he creates software and works with the machines.. i am an applications person.. and also do webs.