Since that's listed as an option can I assume the skylight has no shade of it's own? Is it just a piece of glass/plastic? that is removable?

How does the optional shade screen work?

I'm test driving an Element tomorrow, the dealer has 6 in stock...so who knows what may happen :-)

Patty

http://www.handa-accessories.com/elementint.html
on this site you can view the installation of the skylight screen, bu scrolling down and choose view installation when you see the Skylight Shade Screen .

The skylight is glass, it is a pop up, and also removable. There is a cover that you can store it in, when you remove it, this iincluded.

The share is a collapsible piece that folds-onto itself to store small and compact.

I can tell you more when mine comes in, i have my element but the accessories were all not in, so i am waiting then they will do everything at once.

The shade screen, well, it is basically a cover that snaps into place under the skylight. It is dark in color, other than the edges that match (sort of) the ceiling. It sits out of the way in the back, and can fold up real well into a pouch (included). It is good if you want to sleep in the Element, or if you don't want as much light coming in behind you when you drive. While the skylight is dark glass, the shade screen might be good to have with kids.

I was wondering if the shade screen also keeps bugs out?

to keep bugs out, that is the plan, and that is how it was advertised to do... .. I will let you know when I get mine.. RML what is your opinion??

Maybe it will work for my computer as well :lol:

sharp is being silly... still. Gotta love that... anyhow ok umm sharp antivirus or operator error issues when it comes to your computer, grin.. smiles..

The shade screen is just that, a shade screen. It won't do a great job of keeping out the bugs, birds maybe, but not bugs.

There are some small gaps that a bug might be able to get thru. I know that if it had velcro it would make a better bug protector, but it seems like it is just designed to make some shade for the back.

That is deceptive.. the description on the Hondacars.com site states:

"Skylight Shade Screen Reduces glare Screens out insects Allows air flow "

Well for camping I could use some velcro around the edges to secure the edges, that is where the problem is right?

Gypsytda,

Right, if you put some velcro on the sides, it should secure the edges and let you "leave the roof open". The only problem would be rain, or dew.

Don't get me wrong, I like the shade screen, I leave it on all the time (of course winter), and have yet to take out the skylight.

cool thank you again.. i have a nasty cold need to go to bed talk to ya all ciao!

:!: So I love my Orange 2WD EX but i noticed a weird phenomenon. . . it seems to attract bugs like mad. . . i find flying insects buzzing around inside all the time. and when i park near a bush or something i can actually see bugs swarming toward my car. . . anyone else notice this? Oh and another thing. . . Why no moonroof on 2WD. . . I was so torn when I went to by my ELEMENT I really wanted a moonroof but the price difference between the two models was too much for my budget. . .

Bugs? Not this time of year in the Northeast :D

The only one we get around here are snowbunnies, and yes, they seem to like hanging aournd the Element. :wink:

RML: "snowbunnies" hummm you mean the teenie boppers, or do you all have a new insect in NY? :wink:

And so the orange is attrracting insects huh? Interesting.. and yeah in the North East here we don't have big bug problem this time a year, give us a couple months for the massive mosquito season to pick up.. and all the other flying critters.. we shall see.. but that is just freaky!

Think the CA bugs like new car smell? Grin.. grab a can of OFF!, and see if it helps!

I knew someone who had a gold motorcycle that attracted yellow jackets. They're real nasty when they get in the helmet, being meat eaters and all.

I think someone should make some after-market screens. Velcro adhesive might give out on a hot day out west here. Might try making my own screen.

Sharp that is just freaky.. and in the helmet, yikes!!!

I'm stoked!!!! Just signed the contract on my new Element EX 4WD Black, with only Lo-Jack! It's scheduled for delivery here in Orange County CA on 3/3. Where's the best place to order the following (1) Splash Guards; (2) Rear Bumper Trim; (3) Interior Privacy Curtain; (4) Skylight Shade Screen; and (5) Cargo Cover :?: :?: :lol: :?: And is the Skylight Shade Screen worth getting?

Does does the Element's sun roof shade keep out bugs? Is it worth buying one? Has anybody got it tinted? Any comments will be appreciated.

Check out the pic at: http://www.hondaelement.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=749
I was considering the screen until I saw it, can you say U-G-L-Y.

If you check, we talked about it here a while back.

I have the shade and it works great. It does not work to keep out bugs, but it does work as a shade screen. It does cut the light into the back. If you have a kid or animal (or for that matter anyone) in the back, it will cut down on the sun getting into the back.

If you want to get the sun shade to keep out bugs, you will need some velcro and attach it to the roof, and to the shade screen. It will work then.

Even thought people talk about it keeping out bugs, without some way to better seal it, it won't work that way.

That is not saying it is not a good product, I like mine. We drive with it at all times. Snaps off real quick when you want to remove it.

Thanks for the tip! I once had a Cherokee, laid a piece of plastic screen around the window, and secured it with a bunch of small magnets. It kept the bugs out just fine. :D

I ordered the Element All Season Floor Mats and Element Cargo Tray yesterday from... http://www.4hondaparts.com They are located in Loma Linda. The price was the best that I have seen.

fosterbo,

Congrats.

I ordred all the options that you mentioned. I like them all, but it depends on what you are getting them for. some people did not like the skylight shade screen as it did not really seal out bugs. I like it as it does block out some of the light.

Hi, I was wondering if the screen shade blocks a lot of sunlight, or if I should just have the sunroof tinted. It gets extremely hot in Florida in the summer, and I am afraid it might turn the E into a green house on wheels! 8)

Check out hondacura.com they have pricing about a dollar more than 4hondaparts but free shipping! Enjoy you new E.

I bought the sunscreen primarily so our little baby's eyes wouldn't get burned out. 8) I opted for that over tinting because I'd like to have the roof open in the summer. However, if this isn't a factor for you, I'd definitely get it tinted instead. It's a whole lot cheaper, and the shade is fuuuuuugly when it's on! :)

The sun shade does block quite a bit of light. It does not block all light. It would be better if you want to open the roof and let light and air in.

Gotta agree with toastyapricot. I've ordered most of my acces. thru hondacura.com and the service has been great. Had the goods within 3-4 days and no shipping costs. Quite a deal.

If you are looking for a way to keep the bugs out consider boat hatch screens that come in a varity of sizes and can velcro down or horse trailer screens. Both of these type of screens can be purchased to order 30-60.00 in the exact size you want. I am making my own but premade is available and much better than the Honda stock item shade screen. :idea:

I just ordered a new silver EX and cannot wait to get it. I do have one question about the accessory called the "Skylight Shade Screen". Does this screen actually work as a sun blocker? During the demo ride I noticed that the sun can really get hot coming through the skylight and there was no way to block it out. My dealer has never seen one of these Skylight Shade Screens and could not confirm if it actually is a slide open / closed sun blocker or not. Any input would be appreciated.

No, it is a screen and cuts out only a percentage of the light (probably less than 50%). I haven't done this yet, but it would be easy to attach a nylon sheet, like that from a windshield sunscreen, to one side of the skylight screen. If you attach this to the side that faces the roof, its edges will be hidden, and you can have a complete sun blocker.

So, install the screen normally and have a screen with some light reduction. Attach (via velcro perhaps) a nylon sheet over the screen, and you have a light blocker as well. Boy, I hope that made some sense.

The skylight screen attaches with snaps to your roof. If you install it, you will have six permanent snaps showing on the inside around the skylight. I don't think they look bad, but other people may disagree.

I got the screen and I like it. I'll be adding some nylon fabirc to the screen for summer, using Velcro to tack it down, just like bqbauer suggests.

I got one in the 'deal'...won't keep mosquitos out but I got it to help screen the sun up in in Denver. Kinda tacky though...I thought it would have been fitted inside the opening instead of snapped around the outside of the opening.

Anyone have the template? I can't find ours and we can't install without it!
HELP! :shock:

Last weekend, I took another couple for a drive in the E. They were VERY impressed at the ride and comfort. They only had one bad comment. Around noon when the sun was directly overhead, they said it was a little too bright back there. :( They thought there should be a shade or screen to block some of the light.

My question concerns the screen that's available. Is it strictly for use when the glass is removed or can it be mounted and left in position with the glass in place? Does it cut down on the light shining through?

Before I spend the money, I just want to make sure it will do what I need it to do. Anyone used this option yet?

Thanks in advance for your insight! Time to go cruising again! 8)

2003 SOP EX AWD
2000 Green Civic 4-Door LX
1984 Burgundy Civic 4-Door

PDM53Champ,

The screen does block a lot of the sun, it is good for that. It can stay in place, with out without the glass in. It installs basically with snaps that go into the ceiling of the E. It snaps out and snaps in quickly.

It is not good for keeping out bugs, but otherwise, it works great on the sunlight.

Thanks, RML. That's exactly what I needed to hear.

I guess it's time to contact HandA Parts again (second time this weekend!) and order the screen. :D Thanks again for your input!

please DON'T BUY THE HONDA SUNSCREEN.

this is not what you what. there have been several alternates proposed here and on other sites. check those out first.

if you do buy the honda product. consider altering theinstallation instructions. as directed you will end up with the 'soggy diaper'.....

Thanks for the insight, hambone.

I just looked at the online installation instructions for the screen and it looks kind of 'sloppy'. Probably explains why they show the photo of the screen from the outside. :?

I'll check out the other options. The inside of the E is just too nice to have a floppy screen hanging from the roof.

Thanks again! This site is REALLY worth the 'price of admission'! :D

Has anyone installed the sky light shade/screen? I was wondering what your thoughts on it were. I have two kids who sit in back and sometimes the sun just gets too strong. This seems like it would work well. Also, we're planning a number of camping excursions where at least one person will be sleeping in the "E". The screen would allow some fresh air in while keeping the bugs out, or so I'm lead to believe.

Questions are, does it really serve those two functions & how does it look when installed? Thanks for any help & if you have a pic, that would be great!

I had the snaps installed but haven't tried it out yet. I will give it a go today and let you know what I think. I would have preferred an electric moonroof like my old Isuzu Trooper, that was the best one I EVER had.

LittleDogBox
Arlington, Va.

I have the screen and it's okay. Ugly but functional. I also would have preferred the electric on like the CRV has or a fitted plastic screen that goes under it. It does keep a lot of the sun out. However, after my son and husband rode back there in hot Tennessee, they decided that I need to install an additional screen to completely block out the sun. Where do you live again?

I was disappointed to see the sunroof screen installed -- there are pictures on "the other list" :?

I agree that it gets really hot in the back for riders and doggies, too. We had our sunroof tinted the same shade as the side windows (as dark as possible in our state) and it still lets in light and you can see out (at least in daytime). 8)

Maybe if you lived somewhere that it rains a lot and there are clouds you might not do this, but in sunny New Mexico it was a MUST for us.

I have been debating how effective the screen would be with blocking the sunlight and whether it might be more effective to tint the glass.
How well did this work for you?
It gets pretty warm down here in Floriduh too!

Thanks

[quote:50cac92a5e="Wade"]I have been debating how effective the screen would be with blocking the sunlight and whether it might be more effective to tint the glass.
How well did this work for you?
It gets pretty warm down here in Floriduh too!

Thanks[/quote:50cac92a5e]

I tinted my skylight with 18% Formula One Ultimate series tint. It's rated at 60% for heat rejection. You can still see out with nice clarity but I haven't had any passengers ride in the back yet to test it out.

I have not installed my screen yet but the snaps are in place for me to do so. Looks like a lot of trouble to me putting it up when needed and probably doesn't work that great.
Led me to an idea but I am not very handy......I can come up with idea's, just how to implement them is the problem. I use to have an Isuzu Trooper with a sliding inside hatch ( it pulled like a drawer from a cabinet ) to cover the closed glass moonroof to shut out unwanted light and heat. I was thinking that since that snaps are already installed in the ceiling where the screen is supposed to go is to attach some sort of lightweight frame. It would have it's own snaps to attach to the existing ones in the ceiling. In the frame one could slide a screen of their own making, or even a plastic tinted plexiglass panel ( much like a tray ) to slide in and out of the frame when you want to cover the glass part. I have it in my head how it would work but it is hard to convey to others since they may not have seen what I am talking about on the Trooper. The slider cover in the 94 Isuzu Trooper was great. Of course this wouldn't be nearly as nice but it is the same idea and would probably work with a minimal amount of equipment.

LittleDogBox
Arlington,Va.

i put up two side window screens, side-by-side, to block out some of the sun. I live in San Diego and it's sunny almost all the time. It's not the most attractive, but it works and my neices don't complain that it's too sunny back there now. about $5 for a two-pack at pep boys.

I had a Saturn SC2 that had a screen like you were talking about on an Isuzu trooper. I think something like that would be very cool, shouldn't be too hard to make one, would be a great aftermarket product......

Planning on getting a GG EX this weekend! WAHOO! :D

I was thinking of getting one of those side-window screens like I have seen people use to shade their little one in the baby/child safety seat.

They seem to stick on just with suction cups, so no major installation hassle, and they're probably not expensive.

I just don't want one with bunnies or duckies on it.

Any thoughts? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

First of all, those suction cups probably wouldn't last a day.

Secondly, why would you worry about duckies? Afraid people in helicopters will laugh at you?

Finally, everyone will probably get tint once they have an adult ride in the back seat at high noon on a sunny day...

[quote:7e4c185c0e="TheLusciousHellcat"]I was thinking of getting one of those side-window screens like I have seen people use to shade their little one in the baby/child safety seat.

They seem to stick on just with suction cups, so no major installation hassle, and they're probably not expensive.

I just don't want one with bunnies or duckies on it.

Any thoughts? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?[/quote:7e4c185c0e]

the suction cups work just fine on glass. i had to add a couple grommets and suction cups so that it doesn't flap around with tall the blustery wind swirling around. i'm sure you could do the same with the side vents. and i live in socal and thus far they have not fallen off. if you look at the pic very closely you'll see the two extra suction cups ans grommets. link to pic...

http://hondaelement.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2468&highlight=tonka

Ah, good info, LaJolla. And many cute pictures. Your Element is a lucky girl (or guy!) to be customized for you in such a special way.

As for tint, Einsetin - yes, that's quite an excellent suggestion, BUT, I don't want a permanent solution. For now, I live in Texas now where sun = hot and miserable, but I want to move to the Pacific Northwest, where that's not such an issue. Thus, shades.

LaJolla, where did yours come from? What did they cost? And ...extra grommets and suction cups?

Wow, I never had suction cups on a window in my cars that held up through a sunny day. Glad it works for you!

i got them at pep boys and i think they were about $6 for the two pack. they also have them at target and walmart. the grommets came with the grommeter (i'm not sure what it's called). i can't remember how much that cost because i've had it forever and use it on everything. ( i put grommets in the pop up cargo holder to hold it in place to the bungee cords, put grommets in teh binder so that i could attach it to the back of the seat, it;s invaluable.) the scution cups come in little packs with the metal hook for a dollar or so at target or walmart.

you need to clean the surface of the glass and the suction cup with alcohol and wipe it clean so you have good contact.

i put them on a few days after i got my car and they have never fallen off or moved (except when i do it) despite the sunny so cal weather (thothese las few days have been miserable due to the hurricane in texas!).

i also like that it's removable and repositionable. the passengers like it because they can have sun-or not-as they like!

I finally ended up going with the Axius Suncutters Side Shades from Wal-Mart. You get two per pack and they just about cover the whole sunroof. Paid $4.86 and Hellcat will be glad to know that there are no bunnies or duckies on them. I've had no problems with the two suction cups that come with the shades, but if I had a "grommeter" like LaJolla, I'd add a couple more. Nice thing is these fold up into a little nylon pouch which can be stashed in one of the rear bins when not in use. 8)

Wal-mart here I come.

:-)

i offered to add extra grommets for free to hellcat and will do the same for you. the only thing is that it would cost the shipping here and back. if you're interested, the offer's open.

ps. i use the little bag for extra carabiners and bungee cords!

Ok, I'm shade screen challenged. I took mine out of the storage bag, and now I can't get it back in. Are there any detailed instructions out there for refolding a rectangle into three circles???
Thanks!
BayGirl
Milwaukee WI

nevermind- I got one and now the screen is installed - its great!

I am a new Element owner and wanted to know if anyone out there has purchased the screen for the moonroof? Also, I put very low miles on my vehicles and I wanted to know when I should change the oil? I was told to only change the oil for the first time after 5000 miles. But that could take me 2 years to do. So when should I change the oil for the first time???

I would appreciate any info from a Honda representative if possible. I want to make sure I don't do anything that would void the warranty!

[quote:5b0b50b209=" "]I am a new Element owner and wanted to know if anyone out there has purchased the screen for the moonroof? Also, I put very low miles on my vehicles and I wanted to know when I should change the oil? I was told to only change the oil for the first time after 5000 miles. But that could take me 2 years to do. So when should I change the oil for the first time???

I would appreciate any info from a Honda representative if possible. I want to make sure I don't do anything that would void the warranty![/quote:5b0b50b209]

Posts I've seen about the moonroof screen indicate disappointment. I just ordered some easy shade static cling tint (18"x24"). I'll post in a week or so about how they work out:

http://www.autocustomizers.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RA033-TRM233.5&Category_Code=03windowtint&Store_Code=CDT

On the oil issue...dunno. 6000 miles is already the "severe use maintenance schedule" value for oil change...normal use is 10000 miles. But if it takes two years? Perhaps a minimum change of once a year might be good...just to make sure there's isn't too much moisture build up...

I've been told it's good to give it a good 30-60 mile highway workout from time to time to drive the water out.

not a honda representative,
-brendan

[quote:f5536ce675=" "]I am a new Element owner and wanted to know if anyone out there has purchased the screen for the moonroof? Also, I put very low miles on my vehicles and I wanted to know when I should change the oil? I was told to only change the oil for the first time after 5000 miles. But that could take me 2 years to do. So when should I change the oil for the first time???

I would appreciate any info from a Honda representative if possible. I want to make sure I don't do anything that would void the warranty![/quote:f5536ce675]

Have no answer to your questions, but let me know when you're ready to sell your E.

[quote:edaaa46089=" "]Have no answer to your questions, but let me know when you're ready to sell your E.[/quote:edaaa46089]

Heh. Hey, I got in line first! :)

-brendan

I had my sunroof glass tinted with 3% or whatever limo tint is in Kentucky. $25 and it works great. The kids can still see out, it still lets some light in, but keeps the heat out and you can't see in it from the outside.

[quote:34bfdb6ee2=" "]I had my sunroof glass tinted with 3% or whatever limo tint is in Kentucky. $25 and it works great. The kids can still see out, it still lets some light in, but keeps the heat out and you can't see in it from the outside.[/quote:34bfdb6ee2]

They sure must be tall in Kentucky!

But seriously: the reason I'm trying the static cling tint is not wanting to cramp the stargazing feature which I might use one day. :)

-brendan

I do not work for Honda, But I am the manager of an oil change facility. I would recommend every 6 months, regardless of mileage. I think that is Honda's rec too, every 6 mos or 5000 miles, whichever comes first, in severe conditions.

Hope it helps...

It would be good to get someone that really knows oil to comment, but I would try to make 5,000 miles no matter how long it takes up to maybe a year.

Maybe oil "breaks down" over time but I don't think it would be a significant event between 6 months and 12 months or even longer.

Just use synthtic and change annually if you don't drive much.

The manual does state 6 months OR 5,000 miles for severe and 1 yr OR 10,000 miles for regular conditions. The 'OR' meaning which ever comes first.

Bigfoot, use a GOOD oil (I go for the best myself),
change the oil filter every six months,
don't be too cheap on the filter.
Send in a sample for a check up,
The report will tell you "how it's going",
You will be surprised at how far you can go!!!!!

[quote=" "]I do not work for Honda, But I am the manager of an oil change facility. I would recommend every 6 months, regardless of mileage. I think that is Honda's rec too, every 6 mos or 5000 miles, whichever comes first, in severe conditions.
[quote]

That does not answer the question, and it is a great quetion. Isn't the first oil in there a break in oil that should not be removed before 5000 miles, otherwise the engine won't break in properly? Is there any life on the break in oil?

The main risk from keeping oil in too long is that water vapor is created as a combustion byproduct and some gets into the oil. The oil can trap and neutralize some (water in the oil makes the oil look milky, but if you can see this, you are very close to trouble.) Water in the oil can result in corrosion in bearings, which then disintegrate and then the engine is toast. How long the oil stay in there depends on the type of driving you do, but 6 months is more like a minimum and year shouldn't be a problem, despite what the people who get paid when you change your oil say. Short trips that don't get the engine very hot put water into the oil. Long drives on the highway where the engine is hot drive the water out of the oil.

My dealer said there is no 'break-in' oil for the element. I totally agree with other postings here about changing the oil to make sure you don't get any condensation build up from brief run periods.

As for the shade. I have one and love it. It's purpose is to cut down on the solar heat in the summer. Depending on where you live you may not want to tint your window so you can get some free heat in your element in the winter months. It's nice to have the option.

[quote:94e19985a2=" "]My dealer said there is no 'break-in' oil for the element. I totally agree with other postings here about changing the oil to make sure you don't get any condensation build up from brief run periods.[/quote:94e19985a2]

Welcome Lon!

Unfortunately, your dealer is wrong about the oil:

http://www.ahm-ownerlink.com/Maintenance/maint_faqs.asp#oilfirst

> Why should I wait to change the oil the first time?
>
> Your Honda engine was delivered with an oil that is specially formulated
> for new engines that have not yet developed their "natural" wear patterns
> and may contain minute particles from the manufacturing process.
>
> American Honda strongly recommends this special oil be left in the engine
> long enough for these wear patterns to develop, usually until the first
> maintenance interval specified in your Owner's Manual, based on your
> specific driving conditions.

If you haven't already signed up for Honda Owner-Link, you should, they've got good info there, and over the years, you'll be able to keep tabs/update your service record there.

[quote:94e19985a2=" "]As for the shade. I have one and love it. It's purpose is to cut down on the solar heat in the summer. Depending on where you live you may not want to tint your window so you can get some free heat in your element in the winter months. It's nice to have the option.[/quote:94e19985a2]

Glad to hear it's working out for you. I had the same dilemna and came up with a third solution to the honda shade vs. tint: removable/reusable static-cling 5% tint.

I'm still waiting for the smaller ones I ordered, which have their own special storage tubes, to show up. I did buy a larger sheet at pep-boys that I'll need to cut down to size. Waiting for the small ones to show up to decide if I need to customize the larger one or just get rid of it.

-brendan

From the link you provided:
Why should I wait to change the oil the first time?

Your Honda engine was delivered with an oil that is specially formulated for new engines that have not yet developed their "natural" wear patterns and may contain minute particles from the manufacturing process.


American Honda strongly recommends this special oil be left in the engine long enough for these wear patterns to develop, usually until the first maintenance interval specified in your Owner's Manual, based on your specific driving conditions.

This does not refer to what most people think of as break in oil that you change at 500-600 miles.

This does not refer to what most people think of as break in oil that you change at 500-600 miles.


It does not refer to it because there is no oil change at 500-600 miles. First due at 5,000, then every 5,000 after with regular dino crude. You'll go 300K.

[quote:e3e68e352d=" "]This does not refer to what most people think of as break in oil that you change at 500-600 miles.[/quote:e3e68e352d]

Sure, I see your point. However, "break-in oil" or "special oil" it's not "standard oil". In either case, the question was whether to change it earlier than the first normal (or severe use) scheduled maintenance. The answer is a strong "no".

As in a) you don't *need* to change it early *AND* b) you are strongly cautioned *against* changing it early.

It gets a little more difficult if you use you car very infrequently. I've decided to go past 6 months w/o a change and try to get the car to at least 4000 miles before month 8 or 9, then change the oil. :)

-brendan

Hi, I'm new to the board and absolutely am having a blast reading up on everything. My husband and I are considering an Element. I gotta say that the more I see it, the more I fall in love with it. I have a question. I'm considering getting the Skylight Shade Screen. Does anyone have this? The only reason I would get this is so that the inside of the car doesn't get so hot from the sun beating down on the top of the Element all day. Any feedback positive or negative would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

JW2

I have one and its ok. It probably wont keep all the bugs out at night if you camp without the glass. But I use it to keep the heat out. It works great for that.

Worth the $100 bucks in the long run.

Thanks for your feedback. Good to know.

First of all, get an E. I've had mine 8 days now, and don't know why I waited so long.

I was also interested in the sunshade, but I was a little suspicious after reading the installation instructions, which include punching holes in the headliner and leaving permanent fasteners in place. Take a look at the item and the accompanying installation instructions at http://www.handa-accessories.com before deciding. Personally, I'm waiting to hear a bit more about how Brendan's static cling film works before making up my mind (hint, hint :) ). Otherwise, I'll probably have a limo tint done if it really bakes back there this summer..

Thanks SO much for your input. I like your suggestion about putting some tinting on the window. That would definitely help. I'll hold off on that option. Thanks again for your input!

Has anyone installed the Sunshade themselves? I have the installation instructions which look fairly simple. Curious if anyone ran into difficulty during or after installation?

I got mine limo-tinted instead---permanent and works great, plus the kids can still see out. Plus, it was only $25 to get done.

Personally, I'm waiting to hear a bit more about how Brendan's static cling film works before making up my mind (hint, hint ).

Did he post the result somewhere else or did I just miss it? :?





8)

I keep hearing about people using the Limo Tint. Not to put that down, if that is what works for you. However my understanding of the screen is that it isn't just for cutting the amount of heat and light but to allow you to open the skylight and camp in the Element without bugs coming in. Whether it is effective or not for bugs might be another issue. I have heard that it isn't completely effective and besides not that attractive and quality looking. Hopefully somebody will devise a cleaner looking better solution. The whole idea of screens, maybe even for all windows in fact, is attractive to me. To me the tinting kind of doesn't really hit to the intended purpose of the removable glass skylight. Kind of defeats the purpose. If heat through the glass is such an issue for many than maybe tinting and a screen are the real solutions. Depends on how you use your Element I guess.

On a similar note. I have heard some mention of having moonroofs or sunroofs added to the front of the Element. I really like the ability to vent the roof on hot days. Even in the winter the inside of some cars, maybe even the E, can get like a greenhouse. I am not much on opening the roof but I do appreciate the ability to Vent out hot air quickly. Can a front roof be put into the EX models. My concern is the overhead panel. Many vehicles that have overhead consoles can't have Sunroofs because the console is in the way. I suppose you could just remove that, And the dome light? The dome light could probably be moved a little but would really hate to loose the overhead console.

WmAS1960 (Bill)

[quote:2f998a6211=" "]I have heard some mention of having moonroofs or sunroofs added to the front of the Element.[/quote:2f998a6211]

I think the reason this doesn't happen is because there's a big X beam type thing happening up there. Missing pillars for the suicide doors required more strength in the roof. Not positive about this though, and I if it is true, maybe there is still room for a smaller opening.

Anyone know for sure?

A couple of window tinters told me that tinting the sunroof may cause it to shatter. Apparently the hot sun makes the glass expand but the tint won't allow it to expand. I didn't like the sound of that, so I bought a 2-pack of "Baby's First Years" (or whatever they are called) sunshades with suction cups and stuck those on the sunroof. They set me back about $5. The lame logo points up, so nobody notices and they keep the heat from hitting the passengers in the back. I've been using this set up for almost a year now and haven't had any problems.

I have the stock shade. Ugly from the inside but does the job. The only time I use it is when I have the window hatch off.

:roll: OK... then why did the Prelude have a tinted Moon Roof and it did not shatter? It seems something is fishy with the tinters. Why would the window glass not shatter since it is tinted?
Where is the logic behind this shatter? Where is the Manufacturing warning label/sticker on the critter? Where in the owners manual does it say, 'Tinting will cause this to shatter.'?
Spock where are you in this communication?

:shock: Slug

When I had my sunroof tinted, first one refused to do it, citing shattering issue.
Second place said no problem with shattering and tinted for $20.
So far hasn't been all that hot so can't verify yet.

[quote:034d463e02=" "]A couple of window tinters told me that tinting the sunroof may cause it to shatter. Apparently the hot sun makes the glass expand but the tint won't allow it to expand.[/quote:034d463e02]

That seems to me to indicate that the static cling tint might no't have this problem, since it's only lightly adhering to the glass since there's no glue?

-brendan

[quote=" "]I am a new Element owner and wanted to know if anyone out there has purchased the screen for the moonroof? Also, I put very low miles on my vehicles and I wanted to know when I should change the oil? I was told to only change the oil for the first time after 5000 miles. But that could take me 2 years to do. So when should I change the oil for the first time???

Brother, I got my element about a month ago on Oahu (HI). I was the "first" (not that I care!) to get it here, and it works great, but it WON'T KEEP ANY BUGS OUT!!! It's only a shade for the rear passengers and it keeps car interior much cooler. As for the oil question, don't change the oil for the first I'd highly recoomend 3,000 miles, not 5K. Let the engine gently break-in on that, and then have it flushed (sometimes metal flakes, chips etc. stay in the motor from factory) and put new 5W-20 Honda motor oil in it. Don't go jumping straight into synthetics until about 10K miles. Engine by then is well broken in. I overhaul aircraft engines, jet engines and car engines for over 9 years now and know what I'm talking about.
Too early use of synthetic prevents the engines from proper break-in and You never get maximum horsepower/mileage out of it. Let piston rings and valve-train wear-in, and then flush it, and use MOBIL-1 SYnthetic 5W-20 or whatever is the closest they got. Semper Fi. :D

USMC_ELEMENT! Helluva post for a first timer!!!
WELCOME TO THE EOC! :P

On all Hondas (except Passport), the original engine oil
contains additives to protect the engine during its
break-in period. Since these additives aren’t in
over-the-counter oils, make sure the first oil change
happens at the recommended mileage/time interval, and
not before.

I really want this! Has anyone installed it themselves? I checked out the instructions and you have to poke holes which makes me a little nervous.

Do a search on it. Reviews are NOT that favorable. Great idea, poor implementation.

Who would want to poke holes in thier headliner?
Wal-mart carries a foamboard sheet in the stationary section that is the exact size. (For about two bucks!) Use a 3 lb coffeecan as a template to round the corners, tuck it between the wind baffle and glass, then pop it past the flip handle.

You get an easily removable, insulated, opaque sunshield. No more baked heads in the back seat. Really important here in Arizona. 8)

Just take it out and tint it. On a roof you can use limo tint and it's not illegal. Tinting windows is easy if you take your time.

I just installed mine, really easy, probably the easiest of the ones I did.
It felt really weird to be poking holes in the roof, but you'll get over it. Just be sure to measure your pen marks from the template real well before poking the holes, even more than the directions suggest. l measured the screen connectors from hole to hole and made sure the distances were all correct before punching. The supplied template worked pretty well.
It does shade the sun, but it's really for when you remove the moon roof entirely and don't want bugs to come in, like when you're camping.
The finished screen works OK, but not nearly as tight around the opening as I would have liked.
Hope that helps,

I finally found a great use for my useless shadescreen. I went camping this weekend and with the dog's in the backseat there was nowhere to safely stow my fishing rod. Standing at the back I threaded it through the screen and put the tip at the overhead door. Worked great. I left the reel on to prevent it from moving around and it did'nt streach the fabric too much. :wink:

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone here tried a aftermarket flexible shade which fits in the opening? I suppose you can only use it with the skylight in place, but this one is much cheaper, requires no installation, and will block the sun, which I only care anyway.

I saw one on eBay before, but cannot find it anymore, it might have disappeared ? Any info is appreciated.

I use a piece of Reflectex, the reflective bubble pack that is sold as insulation and pipe wrap in hardware stores. Mainly, though, I use it when camping on cold nights to reduce heat loss through the light. Early on I took the glass out and applied a layer of limo-tint, so my skylight is somewhat darker than stock.

paulj

I decided to go the lee inexpensive route. At Wal-Mart or Target in the children's section you can find this stuff to put on the windows. It is a black plastic shade thingy that sticke to any glass surface. i decided to go this way because it was easy and cheap and because my two children we frying like little eggs in the back seat!!undefined

i have oem ,installed in no time,comes with cardboard template to attach snaps.

i have oem ,installed in no time,comes with cardboard template to attach snaps.

Me, too. I like it. Just haven't used it yet.

Is the OEM version still being offered? Can't see it on the Honda web site.

I've seen OEM listed at the accersories group that is associated w/ this site, at Honda and on ebay.

There are, however, some threads from people on this site who are not happy w/ the OEM screen due to what they say about its inability to prevent bugs from getting in and its "aesthetics"...though I have found it kind of funny that people who buy an Element are concerned very much w/ appearances...;>.

Not sure...what have you all found w/ your OEM screens -- look okay, work?

I thought I was buying a bug screen (rather a sun shade) to keep the little biters out at night while sleepin in the E.
Wrong!... Bugs get in...

I would have never bought the unit if I had seen it before hand but the dealer installed it (as per my request) before I arrived on the lot.

I do not understand how the designers and brains that work at Honda could have created such a poor product?!?!

I cannot recommend this product for either sun nor bugs

thanks

I agree, it is not the best designed product I have seen from Honda, but that is true of the whole moon roof. Why not a sliding shade? Why not electric, etc.

The sore point for you is that Honda actually ADVERTISES it as keeping out the bugs. You might well try and get your money back since it doesn't operate as advertised.

I did my own. Here's the thread. I slept in my E several nights and never had a bug.

http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15871&highlight=skreenz


B

Thanks for the link...
the summer is over up here but I am working on a screen that will fit with the sun roof in place.

I really want to get the Honda sunscreen for the back since it's a good dual purpose sun filter and bug screen. And I've done a lot of searching and read the mixed reviews. Does anyone have a picture of the sun screen installed on their E and would be willing to post it?

I'll get a picture of it when I get home tonight, unless someone else gets to it first. The camera on my cell is horrible...even for the $300 price!

It is excellent for keeping the sun out, but not for bugs...so don't try to use it as a bug screen.

I'll get a picture of it when I get home tonight, unless someone else gets to it first. The camera on my cell is horrible...even for the $300 price!

It is excellent for keeping the sun out, but not for bugs...so don't try to use it as a bug screen.

Awesome, thanks!

Any problems with drooping? I take it that it doesn't seal tight enought to keep bugs out? Bummer, that would be a very nice bonus.

On a side note it wasnt too long ago someone fabricated their own screen and it was received so well by people on the forum I believe he started selling some to those interested.

Anyone remember who that was???

Any problems with drooping?
I've only had my E for about a month and a half, and I have no idea how long the previous owner had this screen. But it does not droop...it looks very flush. It is not good for keeping out bugs because there are gaps in between it and the liner...not big, but big enough for bugs to get in.

I've only had my E for about a month and a half, and I have no idea how long the previous owner had this screen. But it does not droop...it looks very flush. It is not good for keeping out bugs because there are gaps in between it and the liner...not big, but big enough for bugs to get in.

Cool, sounds like it will do exactly what I'm looking for. Are you still able to post a pic?

Thanks!

I'm currently at work. I can get a picture tonight around 7pm MST.

Sorry it took so long, I went out drinking. Also, these pictures may not be so well because, you guessed it, I went out drinking!

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Thanks Joe!

I didn't know it had the gray lining around the outside. I really like that look; makes it blend in with the roof liner.

From the pics it looks like it forms a pretty good seal with the cealing, except at the handle for the sunroof. I don't notice the sagging that I've read about.

How long have you had it?

Anyone else have one they want to sell?

Very nice screen. How is it fastened to the ceiling of the car? Was it easy to install?

Very nice screen. How is it fastened to the ceiling of the car? Was it easy to install?
If memory serves correctly small pegs have to be cut into the headliner, then the screen just snaps onto them. but if the screen is off you see the pegs in the ceiling.

Check H and A for better directions than mine :rolleyes:

I believe it was ms gail that created her own screen setup that keeps out bugs. She sold a few of them if memory serves me.

as for the OEM screen, you need to install snaps into the headliner to fasten the screen to it. It will sag if you don't place the snaps far enough apart would be my guess, so it isn't the item that would be defective... it would be the install. :)

He could not have had his for very long... only owned the E for 1.5 months according to his post above. :)

Joe,

Don't want to be a PITA, but if you have time would you mind taking a pic of what celing looks like w/o the sunscreen installed?

Did you do the install yourself or was the sunscreen included when you purchased your E?

The sun screen is very light weight and doesn't totally shield the rear passengers. It does take an inch or so of the headroom if you have 6'6" people riding in back ( like my son and his friends).

In the Arizona sun, the scrreen was not enough to keep rear passengers from roasting. I found some sunn block fabric and p[sotioned it on the screen and re-snapped it into place. No sagging and it did what was expected. i will remove the material since we are in a more acceptable climate now.

Yes, there are six snaps you insert into the headliner. Not obtrusive and the screen is worth it if you have rear passengers regularly. If not, I'd forgo it.

I plan on doing quite a bit of travel over the holidays, and my kids and myself will be sitting back there at different times. I know how annoying the sun can be sometimes coming through the small moonroof on my Civic, so I can only imagine how painful it might be in the E!

Was it tough to install? I read the instructions on HandA and it doesn't look too bad. I'm always leary about installing something that will make permanent marks in my vehicle.

I didn't install the screen, it was included. I actually fixed that sag by the handle...it just needed to be pulled and tightened. The buttons on the liner are not in a fixed position, they are able to move around from side to side so you can get the perfect fit.

I'll get more pictures of the E without it later today.

Is it PABA free?

Is it PABA free?
I don't know, I didn't ask it. And you try to get one to a clinic for tests. Good luck! :grin:

I didn't install the screen, it was included. I actually fixed that sag by the handle...it just needed to be pulled and tightened. The buttons on the liner are not in a fixed position, they are able to move around from side to side so you can get the perfect fit.

I'll get more pictures of the E without it later today.

Hey Joe,

I'm sure you're busy, but if you have a chance to take a couple pics of the E w/o the screen that would be great. If I'm going to get one I need to order it and receive it by the end of next week to have time to install before my next long trip.

Thanks!

I'll be in my E all day tomorrow so I'll definitely get them then.

And the long awaited pics.

There are 2 clasps on both the front and back, and 1 on each side.

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Thanks Joe.

The snaps don't seem to be as noticeable as what I thought they might be. Hmmm.... Still undecided. I may try out some of those baby screens.

Thanks again for the pics!

Use whatever fits you and your wallet best. Though I didn't purchase this screen I still couldn't live without it and would buy it if I didn't already have it.

After doing a search :roll:
I have not found anyone who has installed the skylight screen.
Has anyone done this and if so do you have any advice as to how the install goes?

Thanks,
Phil

......duck...the sky is on fire......
:shock:

I'll be honest, I had the dealer install this when I bought it. Headliners can be tricky, but looking at the installation instructions, it doesn't seem like it would be that complicated. The hardest part would be lining up the buttons.

Here (http://www.handa-accessories.com/element/elementskylightshade.pdf) are the installation instructions from our friends over at H & A (http://www.handa-accessories.com/element.html). It doesn't look too tough. Only $60 from them.

Here is an old thread that might help.
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15871&highlight=skreez

If you are referring to the Honda screen, I haven't seen much recent talk. Earlier posts indicated it wasn't worth buying and installing. It attaches to the headliner with (plastic) snaps. It does not fit tightly against the liner, so doesn't provide much bug protection. At best it provides some sun shading. Look at the 'similar threads' that the system has found for you.

There have been separate threads about bug nets in or over the skylight when camping.

paulj

The screen is a pos! Just get a local window tinter to limo tint the skylight (20-30 bucks).

After doing a search :roll:
I have not found anyone who has installed the skylight screen.
Has anyone done this and if so do you have any advice as to how the install goes?
Thanks,
Phil
......duck...the sky is on fire......
:shock:
Phil, I had mine put in by the dealer. It is tricky as far as placement goes....:twisted:

Did the dealer get the screen tight enough to the headliner to keep bugs out?
here in Northern Michigan the mosquitoes are the state bird and this screen would have to be a very good fit to keep them out.
Thanks,
Phil

The Honda factory screen is the pits, it looks awful! I am going to have my sunroof tinted with a dark limo tint. I bought the screen then realized what a mistake I had made. I should have searched for a thread or asked someone in the forum. I hope no one else makes the same error.

Same for me. Got the shade and realized tint was the only way to go.

The screen is a pos! Just get a local window tinter to limo tint the skylight (20-30 bucks).


I also had the dealer install this when I bought it. Bad move I hate the way it looks. I`m going with tint and going to have to live with the snaps

Same for me. Got the shade and realized tint was the only way to go.

But tinting the skylight doesn't give you any ventilation.

A screen does.

- Jeff

After doing a search :roll:
I have not found anyone who has installed the skylight screen.
Has anyone done this and if so do you have any advice as to how the install goes?

Thanks,
Phil

:shock:

i recently installed the sun shade. heres how it went down:

first, the install kit is supposed to come with a template so you know where to punch the holes, i think mine got thrown away or something. anyway, i just put my sunshade snap side down on some cardboard and stepped on it so it left indentations on the carboard, then i made holes in it and made my own template.
*the only problem here was i didn't realize that the snaps on the sun screen have a little bit of 'wiggle room' where they can move side to side, so i kept re-doing the template because the snaps weren't matching up. could have save me some time.

anyway, after making the template, i held it up inside the car and marked the holes with pencil marks. not too hard.

then i took out the skylight.

next step was to remove skylight clamp cover by unscrewing the screws. easy enough.

next was to remove the rubber gasket from the inside of the skylight. you might want to make a mark or mental note where the rubber gasket begins and ends in refernce to the inside of the skylight...i'll tell you why later. putting it back in took a few tries.

with my handy swiss army knife leather punch (first time used!) i reached between the roof and the roof liner and punched through with my leather punch. i then put the screw through and tightened by hand, didn't use a wrench or anything.

all the snaps went in pretty easy. the 'hardest' part was putting the rubber gasket back in, and it wasn't really hard, it just took me a few tries. the problem was i didn't know how close the end of the gasket went to the skylight latch thing, so i tried the first time with it about 1/2 inch away and there was way too much extra gasket when i fit it all the way around and got to the other side, so i removed it and went about 1/4 of in inch away, still too much, i tried again 2 times, inching it closer and closer to the latch, until on the final try i was left with no excess and the gasket fit perfectly. if i had taken a second to just look at the gasket in place before i removed it, it would have been really quick and easy.

so after all that, i snapped the shade into place. it fit fine. if i did it again, i would actually bump all the holes out from the template about a 1/4 inch for a 'tighter' fit. the shade kinda sags in the middle. not bad, but i thought it would be tighter. maybe one day if im feeling motivated i'll do the whole thing over, and move the snaps a little farther back to achieve a tighter fit, and even better maybe add like 6 more snaps all around so its like ROCK solid.

You could increase the wiggle slots to pull it tighter, that what I did, looks better. sealed it from topside with a little super glue

On the oil issue...dunno. 6000 miles is already the "severe use maintenance schedule" value for oil change...normal use is 10000 miles. But if it takes two years? Perhaps a minimum change of once a year might be good...just to make sure there's isn't too much moisture build up...

I've been told it's good to give it a good 30-60 mile highway workout from time to time to drive the water out.

not a honda representative,
-brendan[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't go as long as one year (unless in storage unused) and haven't had any moisture issues with short hops and low mileage activity. I've had 5 hondas (still have three of them). One sedan was in our hands for 11 years out of 13; we've had a van 8 of 11 and a wagon 11 of 13, so far. I change the oil every 3-4 months and the oil filter every other. Dealer maintenance folks have never found problem with any of them. Oil and filter is the most inexpensive 'reliability and longevity insurance' I can buy!

I have the screen from honda and it does the job . Plus it snaps on and off easily and came with a storage bag when not in use , just like the hatch

Have honda screen shade , it does the job and removes easily for star gazing and comes with a storage bag and snaps on and off

I just got an email from my Honda dealer with an offer for this. It says "for when you're on the road".

Does anyone know anything about this? Can you drive with this in place?

Link:http://estore.honda.com/asp/browseaccmain.asp?Browse=Interior&SelectedOpCode=&SelectedPage=page1&DealerN

The link didn't work (I think you have to register), can you post a pic?

I'll try again with this.

http://estore.honda.com/asp/browseaccmain.asp?Browse=Interior&SelectedOpCode=&SelectedPage=page1&DealerNo=207866&DocId=&Delete=&Quantity=&AddItem=True&DIY=&MODEL=YH2766EW&MODELNAME=Element&DIVISION=A&SERIESNAME=&SERIESID=727&YEAR=2006&LEFT=55&TOP=300&WIDTH=316&HEIGHT=166&SOURCE=HONDA&DEXT=B-537M&REXT=B-537M&DVIEW=34FRONT&DINT=GB&RVIEW=34FRONT&SITE=estore&MDBL=TRUE&ECOLOR=B-537M&ICOLOR=GB&SELECTED=&INCLUDED=&REQUIRED=&VIN=5J6YH27686L010469&ModelGroupNameAcc=#

some link!

At the previously posted link, Click on "exterior", page 2, and you'll find it.

Well, I couldn't get to your page link, because it's requiring registration and I just don't feel like doing that right now. However, if you are referring to the standard mesh cover that snaps in place on the removable sky light then we do have one. We've had it since we bought our 04 E, and have used it quite a bit in the summers, and yes, while we're driving. Nice for keeping bugs out! :)

Nav E Gator, is it possible to insert glass back into place without removing the screen?

Well, the Mr. usually is the one who puts that thing back in it's place, but I'd have to say No. The size of the window and the way the joints fit together and lock would, I think, preclude it from being replaced from the outside of the roof. Therefore you'll have to unsnap the screen before replacing the window. You can probably snap it back in to place after replacing the window in to it's joints though. :)

anyone have experience with the skylight shade screen accessory ?,,can you cruze with the sun roof open or off when this is installed?.

Most reviews of the Honda screen have not been positive. A search should reveal a few threads on DIY solutions.

Hey,

I've ordered the Skylight Shade for my new Element.
It's in at the dealership and I'm probably taking it in on Saturday for the install.

One problem...

I've read a lot about how people hate it on here, and I can't find a picture of it installed from inside the car. Could someone who has it take a picture of it attached and not attached from inside the car, please?

I'd really appreciate it, I'd rather be a bother and decide against it if I don't like how it looks, rather than get holes in the headliner and then realize I hate it.

Thanks!

DoubleDangerBat

I do have the sunshade , sorry no pics , I know thats what you were looking for but I just wanted to reply and tell you to go ahead and purchase it ! Don't stick your dealer with something you wanted and not pick it up ! I don't even notice it anymore . Snaps out and even has a little bag that you can fold it into when not in use !

RUBY NYC

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I hope this might help. I think why some people may not like it is because it's a little floppy and loose as you can see in the pic. I personally like it and wanted it for when we camp in the back of our E and have the moonroof open..kind of sun and bug protection. I think if it doesnt work for the bugs we can insert another bugscreen between it and the window and it should snap in easily ( I hope)

I hope this might help. I think why some people may not like it is because it's a little floppy and loose as you can see in the pic. I personally like it and wanted it for when we camp in the back of our E and have the moonroof open..kind of sun and bug protection. I think if it doesnt work for the bugs we can insert another bugscreen between it and the window and it should snap in easily ( I hope)

I like mine too but don't use it alot, just for when the dogs are back there when the sun is shining. But my question is how do you fold that thing up to store it??

Ours is grey not black. We have taken ours off possibly 2wice since we got it. It does keep the heavy sun off the kids...:cool: + keeps the bugs out.:)

I've never taken it off and tried to fold it up. It looks like it might be like one of those self opening tents. I dont really have a reason to take it off yet....so that's something to look forward to :rolleyes: I had enough trouble figuring out how to fold up the privacy screen and just fold it up any old way that works now ha ha.

The manual states not to use the screen and have the sun roof open at the same time...Does anyone do that? Is it ok to?

I'm assuming they mean while driving....the moonroof doesnt open very far ( other than popping out completely) so I have no reason to open it unless we're in the back, parked and camping..otherwise I'd just open the side vent windows...but then again, I never ride in the back so I dont know know if there's a benefit to it being open for the passengers....then again I havent had my E in the summer yet so I dont know how much I might need the moonroof's ventilation..ahhhh AC !

and wasnt it in easy rider ( or the magnificent 7) where the guy said "we dont need no stinking manuals"

I like mine too but don't use it alot, just for when the dogs are back there when the sun is shining. But my question is how do you fold that thing up to store it??
When storing the cover, you have turn and twist the shade cover. When this is done, it should look like a small circle, that can be stored in its bag. Sorry, I do not have a diagram, however, check H and A for the shade screen instructions. Should also have instructions on storing this item. I have also used mine and it works great. However, I have not used it while driving with the entire window out.

When storing the cover, you have turn and twist the shade cover. When this is done, it should look like a small circle, that can be stored in its bag. Sorry, I do not have a diagram, however, check H and A for the shade screen instructions. Should also have instructions on storing this item. I have also used mine and it works great. However, I have not used it while driving with the entire window out.

Thanks~~ I went to the site and boom! It is in 3 small circles nicely tucked away in the storage bag~!

Have you used it while driving with the roof window cracked? I am curious since I am going to Indy with the dogs next weekend and wonder if I should even bother attempting this or just put the shade on leave the windows closed and turn the air on. My guys sometimes get cold when it gets below 80 degrees (very little hair), so i thought the windows open and the shade would be nice, but i don't want the thing sucked out the skylight window! :D

Thank you, thank you!!! :)

I really appreciate it. It looks like I had envisioned in my mind, so that will be fine.

So really, when you take it off, the only difference will be that the snaps will be on the headliner now, right?

yep, just the snaps.

yep, just the snaps.

Great. Thank you again! I'm looking forward to it now, instead of dreading it. I'm not sure why so many people on here hate it.

Anyhow, thanks!!

Hi Gang,

I just bought the rear screen/shade that uses buttons to snap into place. I am afraid of following the instructions and making holes in the headliner. I fear down the road that the headliner and rubber gasket that I remove will forever be "less" then great.

Am I afraid of nothing?

One more question about the screen...before I go mangling my E does this screen/shade actually keep mosquitos out?

Out in Kauai the mosquitos are constant, since this screen doesn't make a tight seal I was worried the little buggers would somehow weasle their way into the car and suck on my wonderfully Italian blood.

Thanks for your insights, oh wait thats a different car, thanks for your Elements.

I installed this myself , and no problems with bugs , as I camp alot ! The sunshade does come with a template that you place against the headliner and mark with a pencil for holes . Worst part is remembering how to fold it into the small bag when removed ! So I just leave it in all the time ! If you have an EX it's easier to install since you can completely remove the skylight and peel back the weatherstripping and reinstall ! Just don't lose those little nuts that hold the snaps in place while doing !

RUBY NYC

Hey guys where can I find info on this "screen" your talking about? is it an accessory?

Hey guys where can I find info on this "screen" your talking about? is it an accessory?

Take a look here:

http://www.handa-accessories.com/elementint.html

Near the bottom of the page.

Take a look here:

http://www.handa-accessories.com/elementint.html

Near the bottom of the page.
Thank you very much

Are you guys talking about the privacy curtain, skylight shade, or what? I don't see any rear window accessories aside from the curtains.

I was talking about the rear skylight and the optional Honda accessory the sun shade/screen.

I'm camping this weekend in Hanalei, warm nights with mosquitos.

For those whom own the shade, how is your roof liner holding up? I have always hestite to purchase the shade because the snag screw is only secure to the roof liner. I imagin it would probably eventually rip the liner if the shade is repeatly remove/install.

thanks

~asm

I've removed and installed it a few times, so far no problems, but I also don't go ripping it off either - just due to that fact. I have had my Element since 3-2-07.

I had it installed on mine before I picked it up from the dealership. I haven't taken it off yet, but I don't *love* the way it looks. But, with two kids and two 90+ pound dogs, we needed some shade back there and it does cut down on the glaring sun, so it's functional.8)

I know Honda say you souldn't use the shade while driving with the skylight open, but can you still pop the skylight open and close without removing the shade?

I know Honda say you souldn't use the shade while driving with the skylight open, but can you still pop the skylight open and close without removing the shade?

There is some 'give' where you can reach your hand under there while it's snapped in place. Worst case would be having to unsnap a couple of them to open up the skylight.

I am hoping to avoid undoing any of the "button" as the roof linear may not last too long if it's repeatly done so.

hey did anyone use an awl to install their shade? thats what it says in the pdf. just curious if i should head to home depot?:confused:
thanks

Am planning on buying an E with AWD for my dogs in the fall but have received conflicting info in regard to the skylight. Figured if anyone could set me straight it would be you helpful and knowledgeable folks in the EOC, so here goes.

Is the skylight tinted? If it's not, can it be? (This odd question is the result of talking to someone at an auto glass shop who said tinting the skylight can't be done because of the heat of the sun.)

Have any of you had experience with the skylight shade screen (MSRP $84 not including installation)? H & A states, somewhat ambiguously, "not for use when skylight is open and vehicle is in motion." This begs the question, can the screen be shut when the E is underway but the skylight closed?

I've been assured by many EOC members that heat is not a problem with large dogs in an AWD E, but any advice you can offer concerning the skylight will be much appreciated.

The skylight is tinted, some debate on the topic of additional tinting. I have seen some threads talking about breakage from the heat when additional tinting.

Sorry, don't have the screen, can't help much there.

I have dogs and decided that I would just leave it covered all the time - unless camping. From another person (don't remember who) on this list - I bought black foam poster board from w/m - perfect size, used a coffee can to cut round the corners and covered it with reflectx. Then I just pushed it into place. Works perfectly.

Lynn

See here: http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26037

Or just make tour own.:)

If anyone has this installed can you post an interior picture?

I have one that came with my E and I started to think about installing it just because. I read the instructions and it looks like the snap screws are really gaudy exposed on the headliner. After fact if I don't like it and take it down, the headliner is littered with holes and ruined.

Any thoughts about this, keep it sell it? I saw there is a forum about a DIY screen but the picture is gone. Thanks for the help. :|

*Moderator, this may be in the wrong thread. If so please move to interior. Thanks*

> If anyone has this installed can you post an interior picture?

See post #163 above. Also see photo (http://www.handa-accessories.com/viewer.html?pic=element/elementshadescreen.jpg) and installation instructions (http://www.handa-accessories.com/element/07screen.pdf) on the H and A Web site (http://www.handa-accessories.com/elementint.html). I notice that they say it's no longer available, though.