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Old 03-19-2017, 05:21 PM   #1
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accident damge, thoughts

accident rear damage on honda element, thinking of buying this and repairing it. im thinking at the very least body damage not affecting suspension geometry and at the very most, rear subframe out of alignment. any experts on this? anyone see this type of damage on an element before and did it crinkle the body enough to be a pain to repair to proper working order? im mostly concerned about tracking straight for tire longevity.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:54 PM   #2
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Check the alignment of the rear tire - see if it's towed in. If nothing else, eyeball it by sighting along a yardstick on the tire. If you can see tow in, I'd guess you have damage. You can suspect a lot from a picture but it's hard to rule anything out, especially if the rear wheel was hit. My father was a frame/body man for most of his life and I doubt even he could tell you more without a better look.
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:12 PM   #3
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Also run a tape measure center hub rear to center hub front wheel on each side of the car (wheelbase measurement) to see if the dimensions match. If those dimensions didnt match, i wouldnt do it.

If those dimensions match, then the toe and camber could probably be brought into spec. I would use all new suspension components on the right rear including strut and mount, along with adjustable upper control arms for both sides.

Check with a shop to confirm.

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Old 03-19-2017, 11:38 PM   #4
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You need to take it to a frame shop and have them put it on their rack and measure everything. This is not something you can do yourself with a tape measure.
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Old 03-20-2017, 12:42 AM   #5
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im sure the pros can do better but to just get a feel if i should buy or not, maybe a tape measure can help. only reason i consider this is because the element has only 50k miles 08' awd and the color i want. these are out there but dont come up too often in a non rusting area of the country.

would any of you be tempted? 50k miles....no damage to front where all the most important things are on a vehicle.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:49 AM   #6
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would any of you be tempted? 50k miles....no damage to front where all the most important things are on a vehicle.
Not a chance in hell unless you put it on an alignment rack. You ever see those cars that go down the highway sideways? This is one that may.

BTW...assuming its just the body that got damaged, that is likely a $5k repair.

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Old 03-20-2017, 12:30 PM   #7
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that was one of my plans, to put it on a rack before buying it. yes i seen some crazy dog tracking cars. i asked the seller for pictures of the tailgate and put on a non damaged tailgate with unpainted panels. he's hiding things from me already and dont trust it to even make the trip. and he wouldn't accept my offer. passed
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Old 03-20-2017, 12:58 PM   #8
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...no damage to front where all the most important things are on a vehicle.
They may be important but they are at least replaceable. Rear end hits are more likely to cause a car to be totalled
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