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Old 04-25-2008, 08:45 AM   #41
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Under the Middle of the dash ! See Photo. C501 is the plug. that goes to the multiplex control unit. It's the white/Green wire coming off of pin # F6 in the under dash Fuse/Relay box.

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Old 04-25-2008, 09:15 AM   #42
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My rear pump is working and confirmed that the plug for the rear pump gets electricity. I wired the front pump using the plug for the rear pump and nothing. This means that the front pump is dead and gets no electricity. The fluid lines work fine since I ended up switching the lines for the front with the rear.
Am I reading this right? To me it really sounds like you have a bad pump.

Did you power the front pump with the wiring for the rear pump and it still didn't work? or am I totally mis-reading your post?
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:25 AM   #43
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Am I reading this right? To me it really sounds like you have a bad pump.

Did you power the front pump with the wiring for the rear pump and it still didn't work? or am I totally mis-reading your post?

Good catch Benny . After re-reading the original post i come up with the same thing.


Bad pump. Not an uncommon issue on older E's.

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Old 04-25-2008, 11:36 AM   #44
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It sounds like the op is saying that the front pump tests bad because it won't work when activaded by the rear wires/switch, but the rear pump works fine.

When the rear pump connected to the front wires/switch it won't work either.

(Kinda what I get from the post)

Therefore....the switch/wires to the front pump don't work and the front pump itself won't work. __________________________________________________ ___________

I find this odd.....not impossible, but not likely either. From experience, I know testing wires/switches to a little bitty pump on the front right corner of a car w/ the switch located in the cabin is difficult.

The pump is prolly bad (as per testing) so it'll need replacement anyway. After installing new pump check the wires/switch connections to that pump. Pay carefull attention to grounds. :wink:

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Old 04-25-2008, 03:26 PM   #45
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Thanks for the replies.

My pump is bad because it will not work when it is connected to the front or rear electrical plug. Common problem and I agree with everyone on this.

The wiring for the front fails to provide electricity. I tested this using a volt meter at the terminas on the plug. I also tested the rear wiring to make sure that I was measuring voltage the right way. The first time I made a mistake and used AC instead of DC. The fact that I get a voltage reading from the rear wiring leads me to believe that I should also see a voltage reading for the front wiring if I use the same method.

Everything for the rear works: pump, wiring, and tubing. For now, I switched the tubing between rear and front pumps.

I plan to replace the front pump but that won't solve my problem since it will not get electricity. I will try to measure voltage from pin # F6 on plug C501 under the dash like Dom.five suggested.

Should I splice the wire leading to the pin to connect the positive on the volt meter with the negative touching the car frame?

Edit: I think I will retest with the help of another person. To test I inserted the leads on the volt meter into the plug, positive to positive and neg to neg. I placed the volt meter on the hood and went inside to activate the switch. It is possible that a kink in the wires prevented a reading so I will try again.

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Old 04-25-2008, 03:39 PM   #46
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Edit: I think I will retest with the help of another person. To test I inserted the leads on the volt meter into the plug, positive to positive and neg to neg. I placed the volt meter on the hood and went inside to activate the switch. It is possible that a kink in the wires prevented a reading so I will try again.
Yup.


Been there....screwed up like that. :wink:

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I know testing wires/switches to a little bitty pump on the front right corner of a car w/ the switch located in the cabin is difficult
You might wanna plug the rear (working)pump into the front switch/wires and give that a try....blue juice squirtin' out is better than seein' a voltmeter/test light.


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Old 04-25-2008, 03:48 PM   #47
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Notice :: Notice ::

The wiring connector does NOT PROVIDE Ground !!!!!

The pump is grounded to the Body..

Look for your +12v with one side of your Meter grounded. Or just use a test light With the - side to ground ....

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Old 05-27-2008, 04:37 PM   #48
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I was kind of worried at first, removing the front bumper seems intimidating. When i went about removing the bumper i removed all the screws and clips but realized that i could get to the pump without taking it off. I just kind of squeezed in there by partially removing the left side enough to fit my hand through. luckily the installation was as easy as punching it in there. the worst though was once i replaced the pump, me being the genius that i am didn't check to make sure it was in all the way, so after replacing the bumper and filling it up it all just leaked out and i had to do it all over again....:sad:
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Windshield washer

My '03 windshield washer stopped working. The rear still works. You can hear the pump working. I checked for clogged lines. When I try to activate the washers, there is nothing. There isn't any sound indicating that the pump is working. My biggest fear is that there's an electronic gremlin in the steering column. Any thoughts?
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:37 AM   #50
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It does not sound like it's possible for them to die at the same time. Make sure you have washer fluid in there, NOT just Water! The pumps may be frozen.

In the under dash fuse box fuse 9, It's a 10 amp, does the rear wiper/washer.

Fuse 20, a 20 amp, does the front.

When you take the cover off there is a diagram showing you the proper one to look at.

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