Real Intermittent Wipers

[bh241]

Note from moderator, January 2010

DIY circuit info moved to a separate thread.


Summary: At the switch end, you can use either Honda part #04320-SP0-A00 or #04320-SP0-B00 (post #36).

At the X connector end, you have these choices:

a) A wire removed from the X connector of a donor (junkyard) car. This is a sure bet, and each connector contains several usable parts.

b) Tyco part 173681-6, referenced below.

c) A pigtail or pin socket from a dealer's kit if you can match it to the ones on the X connector.

d) Possibly one of the smaller pigtails from a Metra 71-1721 connector. These look like they might work but afaik haven't been tried. The 71-1721, if it works, has the advantage of being readily available, and each connector has eight of the small pigtails.

[bh241]

How about an interesting twist of this whole concept.

I just finished installing a 2006 Honda Pilot wiper switch on my Element. It's part # 35256-S9V-A01. I bought it from Honda for $36.00 give or take.




Here's the deal, this thing bolts right up, you have to run two wires from the additional two terminals on the switch ( # 9 & #10 ) to the Under Dash Fuse/Relay Box connector X ( pins #3 & #4 ). Granted it's a royal pain in the ass to get to since it's in the rear of the UDFR Box, but it's about as easy a way to get real intermittent wipers in the Element as I've seen.

Why didn't Honda do this to begin with? or at least offer it as an option?

[_jea_]

Wow, this looks cool! Would it be easy for a biologist to install it?

[tribalelement]

Wow thats nuts, I have to have one :)

[box-E]

Your kidding, it was that easy, bad Honda:-x. Thanks for posting and thanks for the part number. Do you think it's any different on an 07?:confused: Drew:)

[bh241]

Originally Posted by box-E

Do you think it's any different on an 07?:confused:

Shouldn't be any different. The same part # is in the '08 pilot, and the E's hasn't changed.

I really don't see why this wasn't put in the E to begin with, what would the cost have been anyway? The part was readily available, the MCU doesn't need to be modified, the only real addition would be two wires...

Maybe next they will put it in the '09.... would be a nice "upgrade"

[NismoGriff]

Now this is what I am talking about. I had built the other circuit but never installed it yet because I didn't really like the idea of a random knob/box mounted on the dash some place. I had done something just like this on the wife's Mazda Protege 5 using a control stalk from an MPV van. I will defintately be ordering one one of these switch's. Thanks!! On another note, do you have a diagram of what wires I will be accessing when I install this....I have yet to purchase a FSM

[bh241]

Originally Posted by NismoGriff

do you have a diagram of what wires I will be accessing when I install this....

That's the funny part... the wires are not in the harness! You'll have to run two wires from the UDFR's "X" connector on the back, to the two additional pins on the Pilot's switch.

Just run a couple of wires, connect the UDFR's "X" connector pin # 4 to the new Pilot's switch pin # 9, and the UDFR's "X" connector pin # 3 to the Pilot switch pin # 10.

yes, it's a royal pain to do.... especially for a middle aged (maybe a tad more than middle.... ) guy....

The "X" connector:


Yes, it's located on the back of the UDFR Box


Here's the two wires in place:


The two wires need to go up to the Wiper/Washer Switch.


I would recommend going to Honda and trying to get the 'pigtail' connectors - I didn't but then again, I do work in an electronics shop. :wink:

[NismoGriff]

Thanks for the pics bh241, that rocks!! I highly doubt I will try to get the pigtails from Honda. I have quite a few incomplete Honda engine and interior wiring harness parts at my shop. I am sure I can find the appropriate pins to remove from one plug and graft into the E's plugs. Oh and I agree, accessing the under dash fuse/relay box is a complete PITA :-x

[ramblerdan]

Super cool mod, BH.