New Michelin LTX M/S 2 - Page 2 - Honda Element Owners Club Forum
      Honda Element Owners Club Forum
Go Back   Honda Element Owners Club Forum > Accessories, Care and Mods > Tires, Wheels and Suspensions

Notices

ElementOwnersClub.com is the premier Honda Element Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-29-2012, 11:47 AM   #11
AztecRol
Moderator
2008 SC 2WD 5AT
Royal Blue Pearl (RBP)
 
AztecRol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Fremont, Nor Cal
Posts: 3,664
Send a message via AIM to AztecRol Send a message via MSN to AztecRol Send a message via Yahoo to AztecRol
Quote:
Originally Posted by BasicElement View Post
What! The first number is the width. That should NOT effect speedometer. I can see changing the second number OR rim size changing, but not width.
You are incorrect. The second number is a percentage of the width.
If the tire gets wider and the sidewall stays at the same percentage,
in this case 70%, then IT WILL GET TALLER, hence affecting the speedo.

Here BasicElement, enjoy your reading:

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoSidewall.do
__________________
Rolie
AztecRol


AztecRol is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-29-2012, 12:03 PM   #12
lizzurd
I'LL Be Back......Maybe..
2006 4WD EX-P AT
Neutron Blue Metallic (NBM)
 
lizzurd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ajax
Posts: 11,291
Overall diameter of the same size tire can also vary between manufacturer and tread type.
lizzurd is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-30-2012, 03:02 PM   #13
reno_bk
EOC Rank: Hydrogen
2005 4WD EX AT
Satin Silver Metallic (SSM)
 
reno_bk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 99
aspect ratio...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BasicElement View Post
What! The first number is the width. That should NOT effect speedometer. I can see changing the second number OR rim size changing, but not width.
It's true that the first number is the width, but the second number is the aspect ratio -- as in, it's a measurement of sidewall height expressed as a RATIO or proportion of tire width to height. So as you increase the width (from 215 to 225) and keep the ratio constant (70), simple math says that the sidewall has to be taller. There's no way around that calculation.

In this case, the speedo isn't negatively affected much, if at all. The "math" says that I now have taller sidewalls (using 225/70s VS 215/70s) but my speedo reads exactly what my GPS tells me it should, so I'm guessing there was some variance with the OEM tires that caused the speedo to be slightly off. Whatever the case, there just isn't THAT much difference between the 215/70s and 225/70s to really worry about.
__________________
reno_bk is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2012, 10:23 AM   #14
E277
EOC Rank: Hydrogen
2011 4WD EX AT
Polished Metal Metallic (PMM)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 72
P.S. I went by Sears yesterday also to see what they would quote and the "out-the-door" on the same setup was $998!

He said they price match but that I needed some print outs from the competitor.

I would just assume get them for $176 at Sam's with $15 per wheel mount/balance.

The 235/70 16s are $198 ea.
__________________
'05 MM EX 5MT- R.I.P.
'06 TRP EX-P 5MT- Trade
'11 PMM EX 5A
E277 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2012, 11:21 PM   #15
the_eleven
EOC Rank: Hydrogen
2008 4WD EX 5AT
Satin Silver Metallic (SSM)
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wee Element View Post
An update on the Michelin's. They are unbelievable for ride and noise. No more thoughts on suspension upgrades with this tire on. Softer ride, better handling and way quiet. i am glad I went to these over the Michelin Lattitides and others.
Just bought this tire as well. Very nice!!
the_eleven is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-18-2012, 12:44 PM   #16
Blushingmule
EOC Rank: Hydrogen
2007 2WD LX AT
Kiwi Metallic (KM)
 
Blushingmule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: East Texas
Posts: 4
Michelin LTX MS2

Hi all,

Well, TireMax finally got the tires that I ordered back late March. Got home
yesterday after driving over various road surfaces; much smoother & quieter
than the 6 year old OEM tires. Today my neighbor mentioned "boy that's some
big tires". I looked and they are 225/70/16. I was concerned but found this thread.

The aspect ratio (width to height) is obvious.

Looks like all is going to be o.k.

Bob
p.s. will the tire pressures remain the same?

Last edited by Blushingmule; 04-18-2012 at 01:12 PM. Reason: question
Blushingmule is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-19-2012, 12:23 AM   #17
eedviking
EOC Rank: Oxygen
2003 2WD EX MT
Sunset Orange Pearl (SOP)
 
eedviking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: POLAND , WARSZAWA
Posts: 618
They should be 225/65 R16.
In relation to the OEM wheel diameter difference is only 4.25 mm and 7 mm in size 225/70R16. Maybe nothing, and yet.
__________________
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/501/hsquirtlelc6.gif/kiss me where it smells funny

http://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.44039.2
eedviking is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-29-2012, 03:05 PM   #18
E277
EOC Rank: Hydrogen
2011 4WD EX AT
Polished Metal Metallic (PMM)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 72
70% of 225 is taller off the rim than 70% of 215.

Obviously not much but that is the 2% he is talking about.
__________________
'05 MM EX 5MT- R.I.P.
'06 TRP EX-P 5MT- Trade
'11 PMM EX 5A
E277 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-28-2012, 12:24 PM   #19
BrownSquirrel
EOC Rank: Carbon
2004 4WD EX AT
Galapagos Green Metallic (GGM)
 
BrownSquirrel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ooltewah, TN
Posts: 1,084
New Michelin LTX M/S 2

What air pressure are you folks putting in this set up. (225/70/16)
__________________
Owner since 2/7/06
2004 GGMAWDEXAT
Yakima Rack System w/ 66" bars and Basket Case,
AVS Bugflector II, AVS Vent Shades, 20% Window tint,
Drivers Side Armrest w/storage, Super Hunter Bull Bar (BK),
07 Front & Rear Black Bumper Garnish, 225/70/16 Michelin LTX M/S
BrownSquirrel is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-14-2012, 05:16 PM   #20
bryutas
EOC Rank: Helium
2011 4WD EX 5AT
Polished Metal Metallic (PMM)
 
bryutas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SoCal
Posts: 133
Send a message via AIM to bryutas
Quote:
Originally Posted by AztecRol View Post
You are incorrect. The second number is a percentage of the width.
If the tire gets wider and the sidewall stays at the same percentage,
in this case 70%, then IT WILL GET TALLER, hence affecting the speedo.

Here BasicElement, enjoy your reading:

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoSidewall.do
This.

I just got mine on yesterday and so far they definitely have a different feel over the stock (bad)year wrangler HPs. I got them in a 225/70 as well. Calculations are 10mm wider and 7mm taller (or roughly 1/2", 1/3" respectively). Not sure if it feels taller but I notice she accelerates differently (slower). They seem quiter and slightly more comfy and soft but only time will tell for a final eval.

I'm currently running 34/36 f/r as per the car's owner's manual. Might experiment with Discount Tire's "OEM spec" 32/34. Or may e just split down the middle at 33/35.

Anyone got pics of these mounted with the white letters out?
__________________

| flickr |

Last edited by bryutas; 12-14-2012 at 05:31 PM.
bryutas is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Honda Element Owners Club Forum > Accessories, Care and Mods > Tires, Wheels and Suspensions

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Honda Element Owners Club Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Michelin LTX - M/S 2 vs. A/T 2 gee_lo Tires, Wheels and Suspensions 29 08-12-2014 03:41 PM
Michelin LTX M/S 2 ElementaryEd Tires, Wheels and Suspensions 4 06-21-2010 07:57 PM
Michelin LTX A/T 2 Shoop22 Tires, Wheels and Suspensions 6 07-24-2008 04:16 PM
Michelin LTX and Me Bobman79 Tires, Wheels and Suspensions 31 11-27-2007 11:44 PM
Michelin LTX M/S? bridgetts Tires, Wheels and Suspensions 11 08-19-2006 06:57 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 AM.



Views and opinions expressed on this forum are not necessarily those held by Autoforums, Inc. or forum management.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.