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Old 12-21-2012, 02:13 PM   #1
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Black Rock crawler 16x8

Okay, after about a month and a half of scouring the site for fitment issues with steelies and crawlers on the E I thought I had it figured out. Got a set of 16x8 Black Rock steelies with -6 offset. Just got back from Pep Boys and the @#%@#'s don't fit on the front as the face of the rim is rubbing against the brake caliber. It clears it on the side fine. I know most people here are running Crager's but I can't believe that the angle of the rim is that different as to clear every other EOCer E except mine. Is the placement of the brake caliber different on the 09 SC as opposed to any other?

I need advice as I want to get another set, however I don't want to now end up with two sets of wheels that don't fit. I have 225/70R16 Toyo Open Countries fresh to be mounted so I would like to stick with the 16x8ish.
Are the Cragars the perfect fit, if so, i'll buy those instead of the Black Rock

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Old 12-21-2012, 02:44 PM   #2
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I remember the cragers were -10 offset that I bought from fatfurious. But they were also 15's.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:37 AM   #3
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Just pick up a wheel spacer, how much more clearance do you really need?
Being a steel wheel its mounting depth is thin, so you can actually run a fairly thick spacer & still have lots of thread for the lug nuts to grab onto. I would assume a 3mm, or 5mm spacer at most would solve the issue, and I think the black rock's look better than the Crager's. lol

I would guess the SC maybe has upgraded brakes? (speculation, I have no idea)
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:55 AM   #4
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Okay, went out and test fitted the wheel to see for myself. Yep, the backside of the rim sits flush against the brake caliber. The shim was teh way I was going to go as well however it needs to come far enough out that I am not comfy going with the minimal stud left. The angle of the rim is shallow enough that shims will not help. Ah well, talked to the dealer and the wheels are going back for a refund and i'll be shipping out a new set of steelies for mounting after christmas.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:15 AM   #5
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damn i was hoping you were on to something here. i'm rocking black steelies with the center cap right now and i really want the black rock style wheels
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:44 AM   #6
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I also really wanted to run those style wheels on my new E. Coming from the VW/Audi world. Couldn't you just run longer wheel studs and fat spacers?

or did I miss something?
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:20 AM   #7
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I also really wanted to run those style wheels on my new E. Coming from the VW/Audi world. Couldn't you just run longer wheel studs and fat spacers?

or did I miss something?
I was wondering the same thing. With my BMW, i run spacers and longer lugs. Can the studs be replaced with longer ones on Hondas?
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:39 PM   #8
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VAG cars are simple, you just buy a longer wheel bolt & you can run spacers.
Hondas are a bit different, the wheel bolts need to be pressed out & new ones pressed in, a real PITA by comparison.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:55 AM   #9
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That does sound like a hassle. Are they definitely press fitted? Any chance they're threaded?
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:06 AM   #10
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Any chance they're threaded?
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