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Old 12-26-2012, 08:26 AM   #1
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Realted Issues? Serpentine/Shifting

So, last weekend I was getting an oil change and once again they noted that the serpentine belt was worn and should probable be replaced. With two kids in the car with me they preyed on my instincts and I conceded to the tune of $100 to let them do it.

So, Christmas Day I'm making the hour-long drive to my folks place when I notice smoke behind me. I keep watching and about ten minutes later it happens again; a large emission of white smoke from the back of my car.

Awhile later the car jerks a bit and acceleration stops for a second or two.

I manage to make the trip to my destination. At random intervals it just seems like acceleration would stop. The engine would run fine with no revving. However for a second or two it would just not have any push. Th transmission light also went on (yellow).

I got a loaner car for the ride home as I didn't want to risk trying to get a tow truck on Christmas night with two kids and my wife.

The only thing that has been changed on the vehicle was the oil and the serpentine belt. And since it was a chain-store I'm naturally a little suspicious.

The vehicle is a standard (2004) and has been rock-solid since I bought it five years ago.

Could there be any connection between the two events? Any idea what is happening?

Thanks for any help you folks can offer.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:09 AM   #2
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I could be wrong her but is sounds like when they changed the belt, they messed the timing up.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:22 AM   #3
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I could be wrong her but is sounds like when they changed the belt, they messed the timing up.
The serpentine belt drives the accessories and has nothing to do with the timing.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:32 AM   #4
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The serpentine belt drives the accessories and has nothing to do with the timing.
yes, the valve timing is controlled by a chain.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:58 AM   #5
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Element serpentine belt =/= timing belt from older Civics and other cars with timing belts.

Personally I kind of liked the 3 belts for 3 different things setup. AC belt goes bad, you can still drive the car. PS belt goes....same thing. Alternator belt rips...drive until your battery is dead.

On the Element, if that big belt goes, there goes your alternator, AC, PS and most importantly your water pump.

Anyway, to address the OP, check your oil level. The only person I trust to put in the right amount of oil during an oil change is ME. I don't care how many certifications a grease monkey has.....they all get complacent and forget things.

Check the coolant level as well to see if you're losing any.

Do all the normal checks. Plugs, wires...make sure they're in good shape and seated properly.

Hook a code reader up to the car and check for any stored codes. You might get lucky and the car will tell you what's wrong. Good luck on your quest.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:30 AM   #6
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Mileage?

Mine's an 05 and has 143K, Tranny just blew two weeks ago.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:52 PM   #7
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Mileage?

Mine's an 05 and has 143K, Tranny just blew two weeks ago.
yes, but trannys aren't known for blowing white smoke.

i associate white smoke w/ water in the combustion process.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:06 PM   #8
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Mileage?

Mine's an 05 and has 143K, Tranny just blew two weeks ago.
The OP has a manual trans...
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:39 PM   #9
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I got some answers so I figured I would post.

Dropped it off at the shop this morning with a lump in my throat. I'm a Veteran of new transmissions and it never goes well.

A few hours later I got a call I never expected to get.

When they replaced the serpentine belt they were less than "gentle" or precise and managed to knock off, jiggle or move two hoses in that area. As it was explained to me, when it got hot it would expand and the results were as I described.

I haven't had a chance to test it fully, and unfortunately I won't be able to until this weekend. However it seems like a plausible enough reason.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:30 PM   #10
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What two hoses? Sounds fishy.
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