CRV vs Element mileage

bufguy · 10-08-2012, 10:44 AM

Why is there such a huge discrepency in the mileage ratings between the CRV and Element. I know although the engines are the same they are tuned differently. That being said why didn't Honda tune them the same? I know that the Element is less aerodynamic, but would that effect the city mileage?
Has anyone driven both vehicles? Your views?

Rick92040 · 10-08-2012, 01:41 PM

There are a few people that are upset with the CR-V real world mileage over at the CR-V forum. Like the Element most are happy getting 22-23 mpg.
http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/...ed-discussion/

lizzurd · 10-08-2012, 01:48 PM

I drove a 2011 CRV for one year. Even with the 5 spd auto vs my E's 4 spd the CRV didn't do that much better mileage wise.

Basset Box · 10-12-2012, 03:16 AM

Are you comparing FWD to FWD and AWD to AWD? Since you didn't give any numbers I have no idea what you mean by huge discrepancy. Are we talking the CRVs 25 to my 23, or are we talking 28 or 30?

How to the weights compare? There are a ton of variables to factor in, only one of those is aerodynamics. Obviously that isn't going to be the Es strong point!

2010E · 10-12-2012, 06:40 AM

We own a '10 element and an '08 crv. Both get about the same around town ~22 to 23 mpg. The difference is in the freeway mileage; 27 to 29 for the element and 33 to 35 for the crv.

bufguy · 10-22-2012, 05:53 PM

6 mpg is a huge difference...the weights are not that different and the engine is the same size..
I'm wondering why there is such a big difference

thefretman · 01-19-2013, 06:00 PM

Weigh differential between the AWD CRV and the AWD E are in the 800 lb. range.
Final drives are similar as far as I recall. Only thing that would be different between the vehicles would be wind resistance at 60 mph. Our E's are quite boxy and flatfaced as you know. Kinda like a cute bulldog.......... :)

KoolBlue · 01-19-2013, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefretman

Weigh differential between the AWD CRV and the AWD E are in the 800 lb. range.
Final drives are similar as far as I recall. Only thing that would be different between the vehicles would be wind resistance at 60 mph. Our E's are quite boxy and flatfaced as you know. Kinda like a cute bulldog.......... :)

There is only a 87 lb difference in curb weight between the 4wd Element and the 4wd CRV.

Element 3641
CRV 3554

2010E · 01-19-2013, 09:39 PM

Our CRV and Element are both 4wd. The difference in mpg is all in the aerodynamics at highway speed.

I believe that with the impending 2016 U.S. fleet average fuel mileage requirements, this was one of the reasons that Honda decided to pull the plug early on the Element. Low volume sales and lower mpg for a box doesn't help Honda's goals. Designs for the 2016 model year start in 2011 on the drawing board.

vtzdriver · 01-29-2013, 11:49 AM

I'm sure the CR-V ratings are based on having the "Econ" button pushed.

I can let you know after Thursday.

10-08-2012, 10:44 AM	#1
bufguy EOC Rank: Hydrogen 2011 4WD EX AT Citrus Fire Metallic (CFM) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 23	CRV vs Element mileage Why is there such a huge discrepency in the mileage ratings between the CRV and Element. I know although the engines are the same they are tuned differently. That being said why didn't Honda tune them the same? I know that the Element is less aerodynamic, but would that effect the city mileage? Has anyone driven both vehicles? Your views?

10-12-2012, 03:16 AM	#4
Basset Box EOC Rank: Oxygen 2007 SC 2WD 5AT Galaxy Gray Metallic (GG) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 531	Are you comparing FWD to FWD and AWD to AWD? Since you didn't give any numbers I have no idea what you mean by huge discrepancy. Are we talking the CRVs 25 to my 23, or are we talking 28 or 30? How to the weights compare? There are a ton of variables to factor in, only one of those is aerodynamics. Obviously that isn't going to be the Es strong point! __________________ DIY Accessories: Injen SES Exhaust, Injen CAI, Honda Fog Lights, Honda Spoiler, , B-Cool Billet, Rear Elemmat, Honda Leather steering wheel and shifter. To Do List: HID retrofit.

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10-08-2012, 01:41 PM	#2
Rick92040 EOC Rank: Oxygen 2008 2WD EX AT Kiwi Metallic (KM) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Diego area Posts: 798	There are a few people that are upset with the CR-V real world mileage over at the CR-V forum. Like the Element most are happy getting 22-23 mpg. http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/...ed-discussion/

10-08-2012, 01:48 PM	#3
lizzurd Moderator EH? 2006 4WD EX-P AT Neutron Blue Metallic (NBM) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 10,945	I drove a 2011 CRV for one year. Even with the 5 spd auto vs my E's 4 spd the CRV didn't do that much better mileage wise.

10-12-2012, 06:40 AM	#5
2010E EOC Rank: Helium 2010 4WD EX AT Alabaster Silver Metallic (ASM) Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 129	We own a '10 element and an '08 crv. Both get about the same around town ~22 to 23 mpg. The difference is in the freeway mileage; 27 to 29 for the element and 33 to 35 for the crv.

10-22-2012, 05:53 PM	#6
bufguy EOC Rank: Hydrogen 2011 4WD EX AT Citrus Fire Metallic (CFM) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 23	6 mpg is a huge difference...the weights are not that different and the engine is the same size.. I'm wondering why there is such a big difference

01-19-2013, 06:00 PM	#7
thefretman EOC Rank: Hydrogen 2008 4WD EX-P AT Tangerine Metallic (TM) Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 1	Weigh differential between the AWD CRV and the AWD E are in the 800 lb. range. Final drives are similar as far as I recall. Only thing that would be different between the vehicles would be wind resistance at 60 mph. Our E's are quite boxy and flatfaced as you know. Kinda like a cute bulldog.......... :)

01-19-2013, 09:39 PM	#9
2010E EOC Rank: Helium 2010 4WD EX AT Alabaster Silver Metallic (ASM) Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 129	Our CRV and Element are both 4wd. The difference in mpg is all in the aerodynamics at highway speed. I believe that with the impending 2016 U.S. fleet average fuel mileage requirements, this was one of the reasons that Honda decided to pull the plug early on the Element. Low volume sales and lower mpg for a box doesn't help Honda's goals. Designs for the 2016 model year start in 2011 on the drawing board.

01-29-2013, 11:49 AM	#10
vtzdriver EOC Rank: Helium 2006 4WD EX Atomic Blue Metallic (ABM) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Central Vermont Posts: 173	I'm sure the CR-V ratings are based on having the "Econ" button pushed. I can let you know after Thursday.

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