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Old 11-19-2010, 11:58 AM   #1
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I get 14mpg. What's going on?

The gas mileage is ridiculous on this! I've tried the kn air filter, high octane gas, low octane gas, fuel injectors cleaned out, tire pressure, new tires, never going over 3k rpm....

Honda please take note: I am actively trying to get rid of this P.O.S. because 14 miles per gallon is a BIG F****** JOKE! I could get that mpg plus more cargo room and towing capacity from a V6 or even V8. So, a turbo diesel or even better a hybrid is the only way I would ever consider buying or recommending one of these Elements ever again.

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Old 11-21-2010, 11:45 PM   #2
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The gas mileage is ridiculous on this! I've tried the kn air filter, high octane gas, low octane gas, fuel injectors cleaned out, tire pressure, new tires, never going over 3k rpm....
Honda please take note: I am actively trying to get rid of this P.O.S. because 14 miles per gallon is a BIG F****** JOKE!
If you're only getting 14mpg's out of an element, then you NEED to find yourself an honest mechanic and start looking around to see what's broken. Either the engine isn't producing power as efficiently as it should, the transmission is slipping and losing part of it, or the drive train is dragging something.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:43 AM   #3
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If you're only getting 14mpg's out of an element, then you NEED to find yourself an honest mechanic and start looking around to see what's broken. Either the engine isn't producing power as efficiently as it should, the transmission is slipping and losing part of it, or the drive train is dragging something.
Or somebody or something banged the catalytic converter real hard and collapsed the matrix.

Did you buy this vehicle new? I'll hazard a guess from your comments that you did not, and you bought somebody else's damaged goods.

Edit: You've entered your location as "mountains", and your IP traces you to Riverside, CA, which is not mountains, but they're close-by. If you're actually looking for help rather than being here to vent your spleen, we're going to need a little more info.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:45 AM   #4
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This discussion splinter being moved to the appropriate area.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:28 AM   #5
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Yep, my Suzuki Grand Vitara true 4x4 is getting 17.5 and my 4wd Element is getting 14.5. Measured both with a KIWI-MPG obd2 tool, so it's not just math. The Element really sucks to me. Gotta get this off my chest...

LOW CLEARANCE - I already came within a 1/2" of basically ruining my car, the driveshaft guard got all bent up, luckily barely missing the actual driveshaft, this was driving to the grocery store in about 8 inches of snow/ice

NOT TRUE 4x4 - combined with the lack of clearance the 'real time 4wd' is a joke compared to true 4H/4L, the Element has to stay up on the road, whereas the Grand Vitara makes it the whole scary way down to the beach, tears through the sand and water, then back up again

Sh*tty 4wd, low clearance, and awful mpg! The only two pros are...the roominess obviously (I'm 6'7"), and the E has the nicest factory stereo I've ever owned. They don't make up for the bad mpg. I hate this car and can't wait to get rid of it, but I feel bad trying to sell it because I'll just be passing the misery along to some other poor schmuck.

That is his post from another thread. Seems like something might have ended up smashing his cat at some point, maybe snow/ice?

Gotta be something more to the story here that isn't getting told.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:44 AM   #6
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Maybe a dumb question, but does OBDI-2 on the Element report exhaust back-pressure information?
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I don't think so. I'm pretty sure the only flow rate or relative pressure sensors are on the intake side. The exhaust just has sniffers to determine gas chemistry only.
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:54 PM   #8
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14 mpg? Wow, I'd be a little chapped too. Grandma and I went to Texas earlier this month and I wrote the mpg of each fill-up on a card I kept in my wallet. The best tank was 28.13 mpg and the worst was 23.65. I'm happy with that.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:03 PM   #9
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Also, what kind of driving? 14mpg while cruising freeways is one thing, in heavy stop and go traffic it isn't so bad. My worst tank was while when I spent 4 days exploring backroads in British Columbia. I spent much of that tank in 1st and 2nd.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:32 PM   #10
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what tires are you running? when the crappy OEM tires wore out, I replaced them at 45,000 miles. These days I'm lucky to get 21 mpg, normally get between 17 and 21. Next time I replace the tires, I'm thinking of getting low rolling resistance tires.
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