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Old 02-25-2013, 08:50 AM   #1
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SAMCO Sport Silicone Air Flow Intake Tubes - Official

After a Successful Group buy effort we have expanded the SAMCO Sport silicone hose line to include our Elements. Mark at Samco is now interested in developing a silicone air flow tube for the element. This will most likely happen with out the need for a group buy. They are aware that most people that were involved in the group buy already have an aftermarket intake setup and that we just wouldn't have the numbers for a group buy at this time. They are still interested and this thread will serve the purpose of Research, Development and Discussion for this item.

To clarify, this is the tube that runs from the Throttle bottle to the OEM air filter box. This is just the beginning and I'll have much more meat added to this thread soon. Until then, feel free to post any thoughts you have about this venture.
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i've never used a silicone air flow tube... is there any benifit over a mandrel bent pipe?
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Hmm, something I might actually be interested in. I wonder if they would also be interested in manufacturing a resonator delete tube that would run to the fender well hole? Maybe be molded to the specific square-ish shape and have a built in flange to lock it in? I would then be interested in the full set.

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That is an excellent idea, Dirty. Something that I was wondering about also.

I dont know if they can do square shapes.

The challenging part would be giving them something that actually fits to make the tool to make the hose. How the process normally works is a prospective customer sends in new OEM hoses and they create the tooling for the hoses from that. They do not have an Element on hand, I can't drive mine over the ocean to them in the UK.

We would have to first fab up the shape to fit for both 03-06 and 07-11 (i dont know if there is a difference between those years at the resonator chamber right now) to send them. I suppose I could get the OEM resonator chamber and hack and cut it where needed. It won't look pretty and i see lots of risk in getting it wrong. It also wont be "tuned". Would also have to add a section to route through the fender wall. Silicone is expensive and I can see this being over $500 for both pieces.... Hard sell when an Injen CAI would perform better and cost less imo.
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03-06 Main two parts to replace- Both #9 - PN 17228-PZD-A00 TUBE, AIR FLOW
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I will need help figuring out this 03-06 model as I have an 07.

What I need some help figuring out, What else is needed to be able hook the silicone tube up to the existing lines and sensors. The silicone tube will need all male end parts molded into it. I think that Includes only #10 and I think that is included with purchasing #9.

I am also curious about that line #16. Is it a rubber hose?

As well as the line of units from the tube, #22, #1, #22, #2, #23. This connects to the breather tube And might be possible to eliminate. But I have no clue at this point.

Feed back and photos would be much appreciated!
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07-11 Is pretty simple I think.

We are going to eliminate that resonator, #9.

Same train of thought, I think that #8 comes with, but I forget where it goes to and how the breather connects right now. I'll also have to look closer at #21.
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Sounds like a neat idea and I would be interested in one if it becomes availiable for an 03-06 .
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Of this 07-11, I think we can make this more elaborate then just the air flow tbe and the breather tube, but i don't know if there is a specific function to the design besides support. Im looking at part # 3. On the left side it connects the breather to the air tube, and on the right side it passes coolant to/from the throttle body and the engine. The coolant has a few tiny hoses that were omited from the original GB to keep costs down. Im not thinking about them in this kit. But, is there a reason they went from rubber, to metal to rubber?

-There is obviously more support with metal.
-Does the metal provide heat transfer properties, similar to a heatsink. helps get the car up to total operating temps faster?
-Would turning this into all silicone (weigh some kind of support joiner clip) have negative effects?

I appreciate any and all feed back and ideas about this piece!
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