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Old 06-12-2003, 02:00 PM   #1
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I know there's a long thread about 2WD vs 4WD, but let's get to practical experience. Yeah, it "feels good" to have a 4WD vehicle, but are you glad you spent the money from a practical point of view? Since the E is not for off-road, we're talking about handling/safety in bad weather as the main justification for 4WD (in my opinion).

Who has driven the 2WD on snow/heavy rain and how was it?

Who has driven the 4WD on snow/heavy rain and how was it?

Anyone driving the 2WD E who was in the snow this winter/spring and is kicking yourself for not getting 4WD?

Anyone driving the 4WD who has found it to be "too-late 4WD" as it has been described, since it's neither full-time nor operator-controlled, but on-when-the-computer-kicks-in-the-hydraulics?

Finally, is there anyone by chance who has driven both the 2WD and 4WD E in bad conditions, and how do they compare?
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Old 06-12-2003, 02:05 PM   #2
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Old 06-12-2003, 10:24 PM   #3
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You have to remember that Honda's "Realtime 4WD is not truly 4WD. It's all-wheel drive. it's always on. Otherwise, it depends on where you live. Up here in WI, I'd never ever get a 2WD element. i feel safer driving my IS 300 in snow than that. but if you live somewhere where you never get snow, then 2WD is perfect. You'd be spending money on something you don't need!..Hope this helps!
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Old 06-12-2003, 10:42 PM   #4
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We have a good amount of snow here n the Toronto area. I am not worried about the "E" handling it at all. After all, I was driving a rear-wheel drive Chevy S-10 pickup. It fishtailed all of the time in the slightest rain or snow even when starting in 2nd gear. The "E" handled beautifully in a heavy rainfall the other day. What a nice difference!
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Old 06-13-2003, 06:24 AM   #5
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yeah yeah, i'm in chicagoland illinois but the first weekend i had my e we had some weird weather here that probably dumped a couple inches of rain in an hour. one of the results was that my street flooded with 4-6" of standing water at each intersection. to get to my house i had to drive through 3 of them, and i definitely felt the 4wd kick in. the e plowed thru the water like a champ.

just to get an idea of how high the water was, each time i entered a flooded section of street, my mud guards caught on the water, sending a huge spray of water about 20 feet ahead of the car.

this was, of course, a "don't try this at home kids" moment. also, i might add, a not-so-smart moment for me. but the 4wd did help.

in moderate rain i've also felt it kick in during what i'll call "stoplight merges" where a particularly slow stoplight stays red for quite awhile, and in order to get going i must place a certain amount of risk on my life/car. on these occasions accellerating at full throttle from 0 to about 60, i definitely appreciate the 4wd.

in summary i feel that it was a good upgrade for me. and i've only owned it 4 weeks :)
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Old 06-13-2003, 11:48 AM   #6
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I grew up in the snowy midwest and always did OK with front wheel drive in the snow. I can't imagine while an IS300 would be better in the snow than an E.

I tend to agree with the adage that 4WD lets you get an extra 10 feet off the road when you wreck. Many snow driving problems relate to excessive speed for conditions and the resulting skidding and sliding when turning, braking, etc. 4WD may help you get moving a little better, but it wont make up for driving to match conditions.
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Old 06-19-2003, 11:43 AM   #7
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Why would AWD kick in if your driving through standing water unless you were going way to fast? Are you saying you would have gotten stuck with just FWD, or that FWD would not have gotten you to your driveway as fast? How does AWD help in standing water?

I live in Buffalo, and the only way you can get stuck with a relatively heavy FWD vehicle is if you get hung up. We do have plows here!

I have seen more SUV's off in a ditch here in the winter than any other vehicle. They may go a little faster in snow but they don't stop any faster.

My advice to anyone who lives in the snow belt whether you have AWD, FWD, or RWD is get four snow tires. Its the best investment you can make
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Old 06-20-2003, 02:44 PM   #8
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I'll agree with Iskie on this one as well. Ottawa has been known to have a few snowflakes on occasion THe first time I test drove the E was in an auto awd during a blizzard! It felt very slippy and not nearly as sure footed as my Suzuki. Next week drove a 5 spd 2wd. Much more enjoyable 'drive' in another blizzard. Given the absolute obscene mark up Honda is putting on their awd and the fact they're automatics, I just couldn't justify picking that model. Having had a 4wd vehicle for the last 10 years I can honestly say it's not worth the money in gas or insurance, especially if you live in a city. Last winter I think I put the 4wd on twice (had to leave before the plow went by!). Snow tires are a much more economical and sensible alternative.
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Old 06-20-2003, 07:41 PM   #9
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we had a decent amount of snow this year.. and we have had constant rain for sometime now (I heard there is a sun somewhere, but not in these parts) Alas.. heavy rain and high snow with ice packed under.. the E has been a dream. Handles with out a thought, beautifully, flawlessly!

I have a 4wd, and i am new to having a 4wd, but I am more then pleased with the performance, agility, and the hold the E has had! very nice!!
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