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Old 02-04-2007, 04:04 PM   #161
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I too live in the L.A. area and have the AWD. Love it. It's nice to have when driving in snow conditions and it also gives me peace of mind we get those heavy rainstorms. Some say that having the extra weight in the rear actually helps the handling all of the time. One other point in buying AWD is that the real difference in price at time of purchase (less than the sticker) seems to hold when it comes time for resale. I've had that same experience with a couple of Jeep Cherokees and a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I've never had any regrets spending the extra money and usually get most of it back in the end. Not a bad deal. Also, get a manual and have fun!
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:57 PM   #162
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Reasons NOT TO Buy 4WD
More expensive - to buy and to maintain
Lower MPG/Extra Weight
Only works in snow or rain when traveling under 25 MPH - does not help with hydroplaning (spend money on better All Weather tires instead)
No sunroof to drip rain down your collar when you leave it open and it starts raining where you can't oull off to close it (not reachable from the front seat)
IN many places (like CA,TX, FL) the 2wd has just as high a resale as the 4WD - 4WD is seldom a "make or break" option in those areas - most avg people don't care one way or another.

Why buy something you don't need and waste money on gas and maint thru-out the life of the car just on the off chance you "might" need it some day? Unless you drive frequently in areas where 4WD would really be beneficial in some way year-round, 4WD is frankly - un-needed and unused.

I bought the 2WD (which I LOVE and to me it feels peppier than the 4WD) and then spent MY extra money on great new tires (at 57 miles) and loads of mods for the E, like carpet, a console armrest, etc. I don't yearn for the 4WD for a minute - even in winter or heavy rain, with the excellent new tires, my 2WD does GREAT.
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:35 PM   #163
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We just topped off at 60" of snow for the season. 2WD has served us well.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:42 PM   #164
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Reasons NOT TO Buy 4WD
More expensive - to buy and to maintain
Lower MPG/Extra Weight
Only works in snow or rain when traveling under 25 MPH - does not help with hydroplaning (spend money on better All Weather tires instead)
No sunroof to drip rain down your collar when you leave it open and it starts raining where you can't oull off to close it (not reachable from the front seat)
IN many places (like CA,TX, FL) the 2wd has just as high a resale as the 4WD - 4WD is seldom a "make or break" option in those areas - most avg people don't care one way or another.
well, i'll agree with you on #1 and #2, but what the heck are you talking about 25mph????

it works at any speed.

i live in SoCal, and love having it. in fact, i needed it just this past weekend when i was up skiing. all the 2wd cars had to chain up, whilst i cruised along.

and i've never gotten water on me from the sunroof, its in the back! one time i had water come in when it was parked and open, when there were strong cross winds, but never driving

tango, been drinking????
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:43 PM   #165
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and shelley--check out the SoCal regional section, where there are lots of dealership discussions
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:57 PM   #166
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I like having 4WD, but I live in an area where in a normal winter we'd get several snowstorms of 1-2 ft consecutively & I'd go to the mtns to ski and snowshoe frequently. This winter is not normal - we've gotten about 4 inches total so far where I am, and I haven't done any skiing this year either. In general, I also always run with snows in winter and good summer tires in summer. But I will do this only once the stockers are fairly spent.

4WD can also be helpful for unpaved. I sometimes drive on muddy or dirt/gravel roads to camp, hike, n kayak, and it can be good there as well.

If your driving is largely on pavement in warm, dry conditions (typical of SoCal), you are probably best off getting 2WD. I agree that shoeing your car in proper tires will do a great deal to increase your satisfaction with the handling.

It, like many other things (such as best Element color, Auto vs Stick, PC vs Mac) is a personal choice based on one's own experience and preferences.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:02 PM   #167
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Depending on where you live in socal, and how far you are willing to drive. I can probably get you hooked up with a honda dealer. I know the sales manager there, and i've bought close to 10 honda from him in just the past year alone. He gives me great pricing too so let me know if you're interested.
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:50 AM   #168
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I have the Realtime and i love it.Like everyone else has said,it depends on where you intend to go.The 4wd is not just a benefit in the snow but kicks in when it detects wheel slippage in rainy conditions as well as gravel/dirt roads.As for the extra weight and gas consumption i personally don't find it an issue at all.My E has plenty of get-up-and-go,All i will ever need.Remember the fuel efficiency is not the greatest to begin with.It's a box.The added sunroof in the rear proves invaluable in the summertime and provides adequate air flow and can be completely removed if you need to transport tall items home.Mine doesn't leak.If you are just doing city driving i wouldn't bother,but if you love the backroads of life then get the Realtime 4wd.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:38 PM   #169
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Shelley,

If you are driving in the Sierra, Angeles, and San Bernardino mtns. during the winter then you will need 4WD. If you don't visit the mountains, then you probably will not need the 4WD.

It is that simple.

As far as dealer recommendations... Scott Robinson of Torrance. Family owned, fantastic service.
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:58 AM   #170
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we get snow ..sometimes and i need it and mine works at all speed not 25 mph..:rolleyes:
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