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Old 07-18-2005, 08:43 AM   #1
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30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

Hello all,

I am bringing my Element in for its 30,000 miles check up, I have for every 10,000 miles, and they told me at the dealership that the appoinment will cost $380!!!! Does this seem right? I have the appointment for tomorrow, but I will cancel it if many people think this is too much. What are other peoples experience with this? Thanks.
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Old 07-18-2005, 09:59 AM   #2
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Question Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

I'm just about to reach 20,000 but would be interested to know this!
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:03 AM   #3
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

ahh.. $380 to change your oil and filter, put some grease on hinges, and look at your fluid levels.

[facetious]sounds like a deal![/facetious]

look in the manual and see what type of servicing is required at 30,000 miles, then as your dealer what exactly they plan to do for the $380. they probably won't match up.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:39 AM   #4
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

Cost me over $400. I nearly fell over.

me: "that's sounds high for 30k service"
them: "well it is quite extensive"

$120 in parts and about $280 in labor.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:59 AM   #5
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

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Cost me over $400. I nearly fell over.

me: "that's sounds high for 30k service"
them: "well it is quite extensive"

$120 in parts and about $280 in labor.

For what!?
Why do people keep falling for this stuff?

A little advice...

If anyone else is contemplating wasting their money on unnecessary service,
go to this link....LINK
When the page opens, click where it says click here under the first search result.

It tells you exactly what the maintenance schedule should be for each mileage/age of the vehicle for the normal and severe service guidelines.
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Old 07-18-2005, 12:13 PM   #6
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

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For what!?
Why do people keep falling for this stuff?

A little advice...

If anyone else is contemplating wasting their money on unnecessary service,
go to this link....LINK
When the page opens, click where it says click here under the first search result.

It tells you exactly what the maintenance schedule should be for each mileage/age of the vehicle for the normal and severe service guidelines.
Guess I should've asked first. I (stupidly) assumed they'd only do what was necessary. I'll post a list of what was done when I get home and dig out the invoice. Guess I can call and bitch as well (lot of good that'll do).
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Old 07-18-2005, 12:28 PM   #7
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

whoa!

i bought an air filter, the cabin filters, an oil filter, some wiper blades, and five quarts of mobil1, all for about $75. and then my mechanic spent 40 minutes rotating the tires and changing everything. he charged me $20.

so i spent $95 for my 30k
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:37 PM   #8
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

ok, so far I have only heard of one other person paying for this, the only reason that I am doing the checkup with the dealer is because they are a Honda dealership and they are who I bought my car from, plus I dont know how to do most of the stuff on the list of things to check at 30,000 miles, besides crap like oil and blades. So where do other people get their 30,000 mile check up? Do they even get it? Thanks for the input so far...
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Old 07-18-2005, 05:32 PM   #9
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ok, so far I have only heard of one other person paying for this, the only reason that I am doing the checkup with the dealer is because they are a Honda dealership and they are who I bought my car from, plus I dont know how to do most of the stuff on the list of things to check at 30,000 miles, besides crap like oil and blades. So where do other people get their 30,000 mile check up? Do they even get it? Thanks for the input so far...
For what it's worth, here's what was done to mine (according to the invoice):

oil and filter change
tire rotation
wheel alignment
replace: air filter, pollen filter, coolant
inspect/adjust brakes
change tranny fluid
tire "inspection and pressure"
service battery terminals
inspect: drive boots and joints, suspension, lights, steering, fuel lines and injection system, exhaust, hoses and belts
check battery, starting and charging system
change differential fluid
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Old 07-18-2005, 06:10 PM   #10
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup, am I being ripped off?

Eventually someone with far more mechanical knowledge than myself will chime in on this thread. Until that time, however, I would offer the opinion that there is no such thing as A 30,000 mile service. Rather, there is a shop's version of what they wish to call a 30,000 mile service.

Assuming you have no desire to work on cars nor the experience to do so (my situation), your best bet is to specify these types of services a la carte to avoid the work which is simply not necessary. Besides lubricating hinges and changing oil, Honda specifies that by 30k miles, only inspections, oil changes, and air filters (engine and cabin) are required. I wouldn't know a bad brake hose if you were whipping me with one, so I will specifically ask the mechanic to perform the inspections specified by Honda, but I will forego the parts replacements and services not specified by the people that built the car.

Besides the inspections, they are simply performing a bunch of busy work that isn't required. Its wasteful at best and, at worst, can result in damage or wear (opening valve covers, disturbing gaskets, losing tiny parts, stripping threads, etc.). My Honda dealer specifies a 30,000 mile service that includes changing the spark plugs, fuel filter, differential fluid, coolant, and brake fluid.
Honda's severe maintenance schedule specifies 110,000 for plugs, 60,000 for differential fluid, 120,000 miles for coolant, and 3 years, regardless of mileage, for brake fluid. My dealer also specifies "valve adjustment" every 5,000 miles, and Honda requires a 110,000 mile evaluation, with adjustment only if noisy. My very reputable independent shop has a similar wasteful menu.

In short, NEVER specify a generic 30,000 mile service. No such animal exists according to Honda. Specify the individual items which require service (page 153 of my manual).
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