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Old 02-02-2003, 06:11 PM   #1
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Seat rock / TSB 03-032

:( Does anyone else have this problem? When I take off from a stop....the seat rocks back, then when I come to a stop the seat rocks forward!!! It is really annoying!!! I have taken it back to the dealer and they checked it out...nothing loose. We checked out another E in the lot and it did the same thing. The service guy said that the new accords do it also...something about the seat adjustment needing to have 'play'? :(

Please tell me that I am not alone!


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Old 02-10-2003, 12:08 PM   #2
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My seats in my Element rock too? Anything to do for that? just the drivers side seat though, not the passengers seat.....
very strange.... I noticed it after they put in my armrest.

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Old 02-12-2003, 11:25 PM   #3
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My driver's seat rocks also. More like teeters... forward and backwards. It's as though the seat tracks have too much gap or play. The rocking can be easily reproduced by sitting in the back seat behind the driver's seat and lightly pushing and pulling forward and backward on the headrest. It's not much of a rock but the slight knocking noise is annoying. It may not be as noticeable when the seat is adjusted in other positions? I can’t explain why the front passenger seat is different, though. Perhaps a more thorough investigation over the weekend is in order.
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Old 04-15-2003, 03:39 PM   #4
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My E started having the driver's seat rock a few days ago (car is only 2 weeks old). Took a look at left front side of seat to see what was loose and found that the bolt that holds the seat to the car was loose. I used a 9/16" socket wrench and tightened her up - now nice and solid!!

There is a plastic cover over the bolt that just unclips by pulling it forward then snaps right back on.
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Old 06-04-2003, 08:53 PM   #5
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The dealer told me that the rocking "feature" was designed into the seats. As it gets worse, I will keep taking it back for them to assess the "feature". What a load!!!

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Old 06-12-2003, 01:20 AM   #6
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TSB-03032.

Here's the problem: They just reuse the same parts - just like the CRV. It's not a fix, there's nothing new or differently designed. They take off two bushing and a spacer and install the same parts.

The CRV had the exact same problem and they reused that mechanism on the Element.

The TSB says "WORN-BUSHINGS" - now, how in the HELL do bushings get worn in 900 miles?

Honda needs a fix. This is just a temporary patch. I guess they figure you'll get tired of taking it back. I traded in the CRV, but they never came out with anything permanent for it either. The rocking reoccured in the CRV and Honda knows it will here too.
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Old 06-15-2003, 01:24 AM   #7
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I was told the "fix" was to replace the bushing and spacers - not add any.

Replace them one for one.

That's what I was told, and that's what I thought the TSB referred to.

It says replace "worn" bushings, how can bushings be worn at 900 miles?
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Old 09-18-2003, 11:14 PM   #8
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I work for Honda; this bulletin affects ALL Elements. Some owners may experience problems, others may not. I've had mine done. I weigh close to 300 lbs, and the problem has not re-occured in mine. The parts for the bulletin are nothing more than bushing/spacers that take up the slack and make it more firm. The same issue has also been found on the Civic. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:38 PM   #9
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I printed out the technical service bulletin from Honda about the rocking seat and took it to the dealer.I asked them why I could get repair information from Honda but they could not.I thought things were settled but then the service advisor told me he was not sure that was going to fix the problem.Now two days later they agreed to try the repair but did not think that it was going to help!Is this is Honda's idea of service ?I still really like the vehicle but this quite annoying!
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:43 PM   #10
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I printed out the technical service bulletin from Honda about the rocking seat and took it to the dealer.I asked them why I could get repair information from Honda but they could not.I thought things were settled but then the service advisor told me he was not sure that was going to fix the problem.Now two days later they agreed to try the repair but did not think that it was going to help!Is this is Honda's idea of service ?I still really like the vehicle but this quite annoying!
I have a suspicion, however, that unless your dealer is completely hopeless, the work they do will fix, or at least reduce, the problem.

The "...but [he said they] did not think it was going to help" sounds like a cover-your-ass move by the service advisor. In other words, they're implying to you that the first time they looked at the problem, it didn't appears to be one fixable by this method that they obviously know about. They'll try this method but still don't think it'll fix the problem.

Yeah, sure...

And if it doesn't, tell them to fix it again anyway! Under warranty! Because, the seat should be bolted down!

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