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Old 03-08-2008, 08:30 PM   #1
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Lower control arm bushings torn

How many of you have had torn lower control arm bushings? The right side tore at about 50k and the left is now torn at 85k. Bad design, bad rubber or just not so good luck? Stock setup.
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:47 AM   #2
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Just replaced both and a motor mount at 80K. The front control arm bushings (compliance bushing) are a poor design. Search for "Compliance Bushing" and you will see at least a couple of others with this same failure.
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:01 PM   #3
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Yep

Yep must be a poor design/bad rubber. I was just told mine were "cracked" and need to be replaced ASAP. What is everyone's thoughts on this?

I notice no shake or vibration at all yet...or whatever you experience when they are real bad.

I will replace when they go completely bad but not yet...how "critical" are these?
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Old 08-15-2011, 05:02 PM   #4
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My Father has a 2003 Element 4x4. The passenger side control arm bushing (the only bushings on the entire vehicle that aren't solid) is completely torn, and the control arm is clunking around on the frame. I thought the noise was a bad CV shaft until I took a further look and saw that the bushing was entirely torn. The driver side bushing isn't entirely torn but has big cracks.

It just has over 100,000 miles. It has probably been torn for about a year and a half or so, but I don't drive it and he doesn't notice these sort of things. The tire on that side was also wearing more on the outside edge.

I bought new front ball joints and the front bushings to install. I am not going to mess with the other bushing on the front control arms because they are perfect and don't have any tears or anything. Also all of the rear control arm bushings are in perfect shape. It is just these odd front bushings on the front control arms that are worn, probably because of their design of not being entirely solid, probably to reduce road vibrations, but then also lessen the life of the bushing....STUPID!
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:11 PM   #5
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Not soilid for a reason

The compliance bushings are not solid for a reason. By having solid rubber in two areas and openings in others it allows the bushing to be more "compliant" (flexible) in one direction than the other. Fairly common in many cars these days (IE Chevy Cobalt and even the old Cavalier). Now, the reason why: During braking the "compliance" in the bushing allows the control arm to move slightly back changing alignment angles (mostly toe and SAI) to improve stability. Now here's the important part: when pressing new compliance bushings with voids in the rubber, be sure to "clock" the bushings the same as the original ones you are replacing or the suspension may have more "flex" in the wrong direction causing handling and brake pull issues.
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:29 PM   #6
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Something that hasn't been noted:

Worn control arm bushings will cause the wheels to be misaligned resulting in rapid tire wear.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:09 AM   #7
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Eric the car guy shows you how to change the stabilizer links. Don't know about the control arm bushings tho.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:47 AM   #8
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Stabilizer links

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Old 08-16-2011, 06:42 PM   #9
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I didn't even think about that, clocking the bushings in a certain direction.

However, for decades, solid bushings were used and they lasted well over 100,000 miles....now these compliance bushings which are said to help with stability during braking, wear out around 80,000 miles, give or take? That's just absurd. Bring back the old style bushings.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:44 PM   #10
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Right side lower control arm bushing is torn.

Is this something simple I could do with household tools? I don't know if the extended warranty will cover it.
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