Unlock BOTH front doors with single remote click

[EinVT]

I'm new to the E community, and have seen plenty of interesting and fun and practical mods on here. Fortunately my used E came with some upgraded wheels, so I feel I need to stick with the practical upgrades for now....

So this is kinda a 2-part deal. My desire is to install a solenoid to release the rear hatch and come up with a spring mechanism to lift the upper gate. To accomplish this my plan is to modify the passenger door switch to unlock with the driver's door (remotely) ...as opposed to when I press the unlock button on the remote the second time. I can't imagine a scenario when I would want only my my driver's door to unlock. Well, not unless I run into thuggery. Fortunately that's not been an issue for me lately....

Has anyone rewired their unlocking so passenger and driver's go together? I think I can find the necessary wires under the dash that control the passenger lock (from the thread on adding a passenger door lock switch). Anyone know what wires in that connector go to the driver's door unlock? I guess that is really the only wire I care about. I'd just like to cut the passenger unlock wire from where it currently goes in the connector and splice it in to where the driver unlock wire goes. Is it as easy as it sounds? The locking connection can stay the same....
Now, once I do this, the 2nd button press only will unlock the hatch. I can install the solenoid and a door popper or spring by the hatch hinge and I should be all set. Being able to lift the gate as I'm approaching my car would definitely be a help sometimes. Also, being able to open the hatch from the inside would be a huge bonus.

Thanks in advance if anyone has this info!

[ramblerdan]

EinVT, I don't know of anyone who has done this mod. I'd love to have my passenger door and tailgate unlock on the first click of the remote so will eagerly await your report.

Shen solved the solenoid-activated unlock, but getting a spring/arm to open the hatch far enough for it to go up the rest of the way on its own might not be possible.

[EinVT]

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I have not looked at how far the hatch must be opened before it starts lifting on its own. I'm not interested in putting in a 2ft linear actuator or anything, but I'm definitely going to experiment with some simple mods.
My plan is to still have the hatch go on the 2nd button press ...but at least get the passenger door on the first press. I'll let you know what I find. I'll poke around with a scope to see if I can find where the driver door unlock wire is. Is there anyone on here (or any good resource?) to get the pinout information for those connectors under the dash? Or, does anyone have plans in the near future to be pulling their driver side door panel ...just knowing the colors of the wires on the unlock solenoid would help narrow it down.

Certainly if I come up with anything I'll let folks know.

[rhz,jr]

Hey,
I was interested in having a service manual for this very reason. Ebay was not helpful at that time. But found a Honda service manual from HELM Incorporated. Just go to their website and goggle for your year of E.
Cost was $80. Has helped several times already and has paid for itself in a short time.

Just throwing my cents worth in.

[ramblerdan]

You'll want to access the wires at the remote receiver, I think.

The Element electrical manual is pricy but invaluable for this sort of work.

[EinVT]

Is the electrical manual the same as the service manual? The service manual has been all I've located for sale online.
Nice work, btw, on the relay based beep disable. Didn't seem like a lot of folks jumped on the solution, but it seemed like the only safe way to go.

I have not even climbed under my dash yet, had my 05 for just over a week. Any hints as what to look for to locate the remote Rx unit ...is it up under the driver's side dash? I agree, all I will need should be 2 wires out of there ...3 if you want to do the hatch too. I might even throw in a SPDT switch to go between orig and mod versions.

[ramblerdan]

Electrical manual is different from the service manual. Here you go.

As for the remote receiver location, this should help, courtesy of our friends at H and A. It doesn't have pinouts, but it's a start.

[Frozen E]

I have the electrical manual. I may go digging around in there, because I hate the whole double button push thing to get all my doors unlocked.

[ramblerdan]

Originally Posted by Frozen E

I hate the whole double button push thing to get all my doors unlocked.

Frozen, if you solve that one, you can expect a case of beer!

[Frozen E]

Originally Posted by ramblerdan

Frozen, if you solve that one, you can expect a case of beer!

In that case, let me unwrap the manual out of its shrink wrap and start looking.

I quit drinking, but I'll take 5,000 posts added to my post count. Because everybody knows that post count = e-coolness

Seriously, I'm going to take a look now.