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Old 12-28-2009, 04:33 AM   #1
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Knowing When to say NO.

For those of us that love getting our E dirty, there seems to be an issue of how far to take it. We all know the E is not a rock Crawler but other than that when do you look at a trail and decide that is it too severe?
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:22 AM   #2
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Gas tank scraping ruts and big rocks.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:00 PM   #3
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Gas tank scraping ruts and big rocks.
Pretty much the same here. And after getting stuck last year and having to get dragged 100 yards backward through the mud by a 4WD dually tractor, I added "in a low area near a creek in the spring"
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:07 PM   #4
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Gas tank scraping ruts and big rocks.
That's pretty much my guide, too!
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:33 PM   #5
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Clearance is the biggest issue. I have stopped to remove rocks from the roadway. I have also stopped and examined the ruts, with an eye for 'can I straddle them'.

I have turned back at big mud holes; but I have also made a run for it, hoping that momentum (and RT4WD) will carry me through (so far, I've been lucky).

Other cases I have put the front wheels into the slippery spot, and backed up a bit to test whether the rear ones still have traction.

In another case I encountered a spot of muddy construction. As soon as I felt the tires loose traction, I stopped and scouted, finding out that the mud, while not deep, was very slick, and sticky. Fortunately I was able to back on to solid gravel.

More often than not, I turn back when I encounter old snow. I learned my lesson in the RAV4 that trying to power through an old drift is a good way of getting stuck, with all wheels off the ground. Also in old snow it is hard to maintain directional control. So I don't risk snow on mountain shelf roads.

Another consideration - where can I turn around. It is better to stop and scout on foot where I can turn around, rather than have to back up a long ways. Fortunately the E has an amazing turning circle, so it doesn't need much of a widening to make a 10 pt turn.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:39 PM   #6
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Oh yeah, and be SURE to turn off VSA when you're going to be driving through mud/snow! The loss of momentum when you start to spin and it cuts your power will kill you on the spot!
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:58 PM   #7
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Obvious mud deeper than 4-6", esp. when it gets deeper as you move along. A too-frequent find on country backroads here in the Midwest. I've always managed to make the decision just in time to still be able to back out of the muck.
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Old 12-30-2009, 04:34 AM   #8
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First, never go out alone – buddy system. Second, know your vehicle: approach and departure angles, clearance, suspension characteristics. Third, know your skill level. I’ve been offroading only a season so I rely on others for advice and only go according to my comfort level. I have learned a lot with a local offroad club that has taught me how to pick a line, where to place my wheels, how to create a bow wave in water crossings etc.. I think these points apply to the largest rock crawler and the smallest cute-ute.
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:35 AM   #9
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First, never go out alone – buddy system. ....
I've never been able to arrange that. It's particularly hard in the middle of a two week vacation. When it comes to things like crossing mud holes, I'd probably be more daring if someone was there to pull me out.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:01 PM   #10
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Well if you are just out on a country road and come across some mud that is one thing. I have 33" mud terrains so mud puddles don't bother me.





I guess I'm talking about something more extreme where you really need to question if you can make it. I always go offroad with a group - mostly because we are not just doing rough roads but moderate rock crawling (in the X). I always keep a tow strap and hi-lift with me. You can use a hi-lift as a come along if needed when alone. Just mounted this bad boy up on my rack.



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