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Old 01-07-2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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does a grille guard mess up your gas mileage?

does it? i ordered one today
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:06 PM   #2
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does it? i ordered one today
It should, since it upsets the drag coefficient (like the E is aerodynamically effecient!), but, I have a grille & brush guard on my TRP-E and I haven't really noticed a major change in my MPG's.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:02 PM   #3
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grill gaurd as in the billet grills and whatnot? I can't see it making a big difference...

Brush gaurd as in the thick metal tubing that attaches to the frame on the front of the car .. I'd say you might since it ads weight and as rojogan says, it might upset the aerodynamics of the front a bit.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:22 PM   #4
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Anything that adds weight, and changes air flow around the car...air drag.... yeah i would agree with the guys above... by how much... not sure you would need to test the mpg before and after installation.
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:16 AM   #5
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I am looking at getting one of these. I would like to know what your findings are!!

Also, where did you get yours?
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:44 AM   #6
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Grill Guard affect headlights?

I am in the heart of deer country, so a grill guard is a must. I looked at all that are available for the Element and each seems to have pros & cons. My question is do the bars that cover the headlights affect the output from the lights? I looked at a Manik this morning that was installed on a Rover. The bars that covered the lights were held in place by four bolts and were removable. Do any other guards have this feature or are they welded in place?

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Old 03-20-2010, 01:08 PM   #7
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I am in the heart of deer country, so a grill guard is a must. ...
Uhhhhh... you do realize that these so-called "grille guards" are cosmetic, don't you? That the only conceivable protection they offer is possibly deflecting small branches and twigs away from the nose, which is plastic, anyway?

They are not structural in any way, shape or form, and do not have the strength to withstand the mildest parking lot tap, much less at-speed contact with large wildlife. If you are expecting an extra layer of "protection", you're going to be disappointed. In actuality, the brush guard will add to any damage by turning blunt impacts into penetrating wounds by virtue of the attachment hardware and the flimsy nature of the guard.
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Uhhhhh... you do realize that these so-called "grille guards" are cosmetic, don't you? That the only conceivable protection they offer is possibly deflecting small branches and twigs away from the nose, which is plastic, anyway?

They are not structural in any way, shape or form, and do not have the strength to withstand the mildest parking lot tap, much less at-speed contact with large wildlife. If you are expecting an extra layer of "protection", you're going to be disappointed. In actuality, the brush guard will add to any damage by turning blunt impacts into penetrating wounds by virtue of the attachment hardware and the flimsy nature of the guard.
You may very well be correct, however I still have 50 pounds of venison in the freezer that would probably argue that point, except he is deader than a beaver hat.

150 lb. buck + landrover + Manik Grill Guard = lunch.

The guard was pushed into the hood, denting the hood, and the plastic bumper cracked. The buck was DOA.

Now, back to my original question....
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How was the Manik mounted on the LR? How does that compare with the Element mount?
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The effect on mpg is infinitesimal if at all.
I have the Aries Off Road one piece and the headlight sections are also removable.
The guard is not "flimsy" as it is over 50 lbs of welded together thick walled DOM tubing and is quite capable of launching shopping carts over curbs and also does a nice job disemboweling rabbits and red fox.
Unfortunately the mounting location is the same location as the bottom of the radiator so a hard enough hit would be fatal to the E regardless of the level of cosmetic damage evaded.
The other major drawback is losing 3" of approach angle clearance. I have dug in pretty hard on a few whoops on four wheeler trails and chipped a couple parking barriers with nothing more than scuffed paint as a negative result so far. I make sure to carry a come-a-long or "poor man's winch" with me when I'm out on the hunting trails alone just in case the brush guard turns into a brush anchor.
Don't expect to go smashing through 150 lb whitetails at 65 mph with the Element with a brush guard but it will, amazing I know, do what it was designed for and keep the trail scrub from wrecking expensive lights and AC condensers along with the butter soft front plastic.
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