Passenger Door Lock Switch

[Green EX and Ham]

The switch is installed. Now I just need to wire it up.



I got an extra drivers side cup/lever and an extra switch. I took the existing lever out and put it in the new cup. It wasn't trivial in that the pin that holds it is not easy to uncrimp and the lever and cup need to be trimmed so that it will pull upen enough to pop the door. The switch was installed "upside down" wrt the new cup and took a touch of dremmel work for enough clearance to operate.

It would be much easier if you could just order a Japanese drivers side cup/lever.

I shall defeat the evil Element locking system.

[marky]

WOW! That's VERY trick! Looks great!

(That's a score of three exclamation points... five points are reserved for the first V8 engine swap)

[punkin]

Love your tip. This ranks right up there with resetting the SRS light without a trip to the dealer. I have a few questions before I order the parts:

Where did you get the parts & what was the total cost ?

I've looked at the Majestic Honda web site but can not determine exactly what parts to order (they don't have any parts labeled "cup" or "lever"). Do you still have the part numbers handy?

Which parts of the lever and cup did you have to trim and how much? Is the trimmed area noticeable?

How did you connect the wiring?

How hard was it to thread the wires through the door into the passenger compartment?

Any and all tips are greatly appreciated.

[spdrcr5]

Chris:

You "stole" my idea! lol I have been planning this mod out since the day I picked my E up on Jan 2 of this year. But I need to wait for the Spring since it is too cold to work outside here...

As was asked, could you give a complete parts list as to what is needed?

Why did you have to Dremel anything? I was expecting to only have to turn the cup upside down and put the switch in right side up. Not having taken the door panel off yet... do you think the wires look easy enough to connect up and get it working as it should have from the factory?

When you do the wiring, please take some good notes and snap a few pics as well. :)

Thanks.

[Green EX and Ham]

Originally Posted by spdrcr5

Chris:

You "stole" my idea! lol I have been planning this mod out since the day I picked my E up on Jan 2 of this year. But I need to wait for the Spring since it is too cold to work outside here...

As was asked, could you give a complete parts list as to what is needed?

Why did you have to Dremel anything? I was expecting to only have to turn the cup upside down and put the switch in right side up. Not having taken the door panel off yet... do you think the wires look easy enough to connect up and get it working as it should have from the factory?

When you do the wiring, please take some good notes and snap a few pics as well. :)

Thanks.

For parts just go to honaautomotiveparts.com and get a drivers side door lock switch and a passenger side cup/lever. Look at the exploded parts diagrams on the site and you can figure out which ones you need. Make sure you get the correct color.

The hard part is fitting your existing lever to the new cup because the pin holding it is hard to get out. You could try to use an upside-down cup/lever but then you'd have to bend the pull rod that goes from the lever to the latch.

Dremmeling is required because the switch and/or the cup are not symmetrical in the horizontal plane, so the switch ends up too low when you flip it over.

I haven't got around to wiring yet but I'm hoping to be able to do it using only the speaker holes and not taking off the whole door panel.

Hurry up and beat me so you can tell me how to do it.

Chris

[BigFoot]

I had written a thread a few weeks ago about how to wire up such a switch, and never got a good answer. So please solve this problem for all of us!

Great mod job!

[MikeQBF]

OK... you're going to need to run THREE wires, two which go to the "multiplex control unit" (MCU), which is part of the under-dash fuse box. The concerned wires are:

White/Green tracer - unlock;
White/Blue tracer - lock (CAUTION - do not confuse this with the +12V wire coming from the fuse box under the hood. They are the same color/tracer!);
Ground - any location handy under the dash, although pretty much any black (and just black) wire will be a ground.

The switch in the driver's door is momentary on both contacts, so you can simply use vampire taps to attach your wires, although I'd attach the ground to a bolt or something - I don't like to compromise ground leads. If you have any doubts about which wires you're going to, just pick the bundle just before it enters the bellows on the driver side and you should be safe.

The center contact on the new switch is what goes to ground. You have to run a wire - there is no reliable ground within the passenger door itself since both sides of both actuators (window and lock) go to the MCU, where it does special things with what would be the ground side. As far as which tab on the switch does what, you will want to check things out with an ohmmeter - toggle switches vary internally, so the contacts might be arranged opposite of what you assume they are.

There should be plenty of room in the bellows between the door and the dash for your wires. I'd bundle the wires with 1/4" wire loom, but that's me. The switch wires are logic-only - they carry no working current. You can use 16AWG or even 18AWG wire without worry.

Good luck, and give us a full report! Great project!

[Slowhand]

Great looking job! Nice to see the "Club members" working together on a mod that will be a real plus. I will be following your progress on this one.

[punkin]

Below are the items numbers I ordered for my SSM E w/ black interior:

case 72165-scv-a01za $10.63
switch 35380-s9v-a02zd $11.74
screw 93500-03008-oh order 2 of these $ .40 each

Total installation time ~ 30 minutes. Couldn't get the holes on the switch to match the holes on the case so I had to mount the switch so that unlock is down and lock is up. Not a biggie to me.

Thanks everyone for their help.

[spdrcr5]

[quote:e11a1f871b=" "]Below are the items numbers I ordered for my SSM E w/ black interior:

case 72165-scv-a01za $10.63
switch 35380-s9v-a02zd $11.74
screw 93500-03008-oh order 2 of these $ .40 each

Total installation time ~ 30 minutes. Couldn't get the holes on the switch to match the holes on the case so I had to mount the switch so that unlock is down and lock is up. Not a biggie to me.

Thanks everyone for their help.[/quote:e11a1f871b]

Who did you order this from? I need to place this order and appreciate the part numbers all laid out for me. :)

Also ordering a few dash parts and possibly a drivers sunvisor. Weather is warming up and projects will be getting underway. :)