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Old 01-10-2019, 11:51 AM   #1
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Clunking noise when switching from forward to reverse

Hi, I'm have a issue with my 2008 Honda Element SC 65,000 miles. I bought it with a salvage title after a passenger side accident. I saw pictures of the damage before repairs and after looking at the undercarriage it appeared to be in good order. I got new tires, then a honda dealer alignment on which the dealer had some issue with correcting camber on the accident side. I was able to get it in tolerance by using 2 camber bolts on the same side and turning them opposing to get enough correction.
Here's the issue: Anytime the car is switched from forward to reverse or reverse to forward I here a clicking noise up front. It only happens a few times or revolutions before it goes away. It never happens again until I pull into a parking spot, then back out in the other direction and it happens a few click's each time. Sounds like it could have been the drive axle joints, dealer also mentioned that possibility, but I have replaced both of them driver and passenger sides. I also replaced a passenger side strut as the dealer though it was bent, but it was not or at least made no change in camber. I also had the strut out on the driver side to replace a boot that was ripped. I replaced the drivers side lower ball joint and both steering tie rod ends. I took apart and checked the passenger side ball joint. I have replaced the stabilizer end links with Moog greasable and the stabilizer bar bushings.
It seems to be something in the drive line. Either something in the trans itself or I thought maybe a motor or transmission mount. I have noticed that when I hit concrete section lines in the roadway (another words when both tires hit a severe bump at the same time the dash rattles very excessively, more so than most cars I've ever had. I have had 2 other elements a 2003 and a 2008EX. My kids now own them, both are rough, but not quite this bad. Let me know if you guys have any suggestions over and above what I have already done. Also are there any particular mounts or subframe bushings that could have been damaged in the accident causing this issue. Any help is appreciated, thanks
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:04 PM   #2
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forgot to mention

I had my E at idle and opened the hood. I grabbed the engine and pulled forward the back (possible check of motor/trans mounts was my thought) and as the truck moved slightly forward and then back I could here what seemed like the same clunking noise. If that indicates something to point too, please let me know what? Thanks
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Old 01-13-2019, 06:58 PM   #3
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Most likely is an inner cv joint going bad. Had one go out on my E at about 140K made this same noise only when going between forward and reverse.

Edit: upon closer read see you have already changed both driveshafts and assorted other parts. Could be a lower control arm bushing.

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Old 01-20-2019, 08:39 AM   #4
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Could be your transmission mounts. I have an annoying front end noise I'm trying to diagnose and repair. So far I've replaced a lower control arm that had a bad bushing. Still the noise. I replaced 3 of the 4 motor /transmission mounts that were shot. Still the noise. Replacing the mounts did eliminate a loud roar when flooring the gas pedal. You can look at the mounts easily and see if the internal rubber pieces are cracked or damaged.
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:29 PM   #5
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Check the front heat shield. It tends to rust out at the front screw mounts.
Until it rusts enough to flap freely it will make a clicking sound whenever the vehicle makes a sudden stop or change of F/R direction.

Also check all the exhaust suspenders. If any are missing the exhaust can shift unpredictably.
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:05 AM   #6
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Did you figure this out? Mine ended up being the upper strut mount on the passenger side. So nie to have no noises.
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:12 AM   #7
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I've had a similar noise for a long time. I guessed it was the compliance bushings from what I've read hear about such a noise. I took it to my favorite (and honest) mechanic, and it turned out it was the front stabilizer links. I looked those over, and they weren't broken yet. If I'd known that I surely would have DIY'd it. Lesson learned, but the noise is gone.
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Old 05-28-2019, 01:50 PM   #8
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Thanks for the ideas, I just replaced them stableizer links with moog, No improvement
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:27 PM   #9
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So I have replaced my entire suspension and experienced a similar issue. I recently took my E back to the Dealer due to lingering clicking and it turns out what I thought was suspension was my brakes. The shop foreman and I drove around and he told me that since the noise seemed to only happen when going into reverse that's what he thought it was, I argued no, it's suspension. But he was right! Had both front and rear pads re scuffed by dealer and lubricated. The clicking noise is gone.

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