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Old 12-30-2007, 03:00 PM   #1
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Question Rear wheel bearing replacement

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum, just bought my new (used) E with 65K miles on it.
Last night I heard a high pitched sound coming from my rear right wheel, and today I took it on the highway for 20 miles and started hearing the same noise again. I brought the car home and took off both wheels and the right one was really hot - coming from the center of the wheel and not from the brake pads. It appears that I will have to have rear wheel bearing replaced.
Questions:
1. could that be covered by Honda warranty?
2. does somebody know how to replace the wheel bearing? I did go to NAPA and Auto Zone and none has the bearing (dealer here I come)?
3. As an exercise, because I like to fix cars, I did pull the wheel apart almost all the way (caliper, rotor, all the bolts including that nasty 24mm one that holds the axle for the hand brake), but could not get to the bearings (in my previous car, vw jetta, I did the similar replacement after 140K miles, and it was not that difficult).

I appreaciate any advice/help.
thanks.
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Old 12-30-2007, 03:13 PM   #2
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welcome To the forum. Did your E have the warranty books with it when you got it? You could call Honda America. I have just had my E for a few months I can not answer your questions but I am sure some on on the forum will have a answer for you.
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:06 PM   #3
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I haven't had an E apart but I'd have to say that the bearing is pressed into the hub. They are a pita.
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Old 12-30-2007, 05:55 PM   #4
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At 65k miles, the factory warranty has expired, so unless you purchased an extended warranty, or the E was a Honda Certified Used vehicle, you will probably end up having to pay for it. The bearing is pressed into the rear knuckle, and the hub presses into the bearing. There is a spindle stub on the 2wd that is held in place with a nut. The worst part to deal with will be the wheel speed sensor - it will almost certainly be siezed in the knuckle if your environment is even remotely corrosive. More often than not, the speed sensor will be destroyed in the process and need to be replaced.

This is not a DIY project unless you have access to a decent press.
Just out of curiosity, whatca figure this will cost our new member?
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Just out of curiosity, whatca figure this will cost our new member?
Around $400 if it needs the speed sensor as well. Sometimes the hub gets pretty scored, especially if there was a lot of heat involved in the failure (like what the OP describes) which would add around another $80.00+
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:09 PM   #6
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Hi Honda Tech,

would you happen to have any diagrams from the service manual pertaining to the repair. I would like to see how complicated that might be for doing it on my own. I did not see any wires coming out the wheel except the line for the hand brake (am I wrong here?) so I am puzzled regarding your speed sensor comment.

I will check my dealer tomorrow. I am supposed to have 60 day warranty on the car.

thanks, otherwise for the reply.

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At 65k miles, the factory warranty has expired, so unless you purchased an extended warranty, or the E was a Honda Certified Used vehicle, you will probably end up having to pay for it. The bearing is pressed into the rear knuckle, and the hub presses into the bearing. There is a spindle stub on the 2wd that is held in place with a nut. The worst part to deal with will be the wheel speed sensor - it will almost certainly be siezed in the knuckle if your environment is even remotely corrosive. More often than not, the speed sensor will be destroyed in the process and need to be replaced.

This is not a DIY project unless you have access to a decent press.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:08 AM   #7
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I am puzzled regarding your speed sensor comment.
IF your vehicle is equipped with ABS brakes, there is a speed sensor. If you do not have ABS brakes, disregard the comment, it does not apply.

http://www.hondapartswarehouse.com/p...%20%2029%20%20

The speed sensor is the part designated 24 / 25 in the exploded parts view
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Not a DIY project?

Honda Tech,

Just curious...is it an option to buy hub/bearing combos where a brand new bearing comes mounted to a hub? In that way the need for a press might be negated...
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Just curious...is it an option to buy hub/bearing combos where a brand new bearing comes mounted to a hub? In that way the need for a press might be negated...
Not unless you wanted to buy a whole new knuckle and backing plate as well, and then have the whole thing assembled somewhere with a press.

The bearing is pressed into the knuckle, and then secured along the outer race with a large snap-ring. The hub is then pressed into the bearing's inner race, and the CV joint (or stub on a 2wd) passes through the hub, with it's face contacting the inner race of the bearing and a large nut secures the joint / stub to the hub.


You cannot access the snap-ring or remove the backing plate without removing the hub from the bearing. If the hub is undamaged, it can be re-used when the bearing is replaced. The inner race of the bearing is split, so when you press the hub out, one half of the race will remain on the hub when it separates from the bearing, and then this piece must be pressed off of the hub.

Truely, this is not a DIY project unless you have the proper tools and training. Pressing bearings can be pretty dangerous if you don't fully understand the processes and forces involved.
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Gotcha

...I see. That diagram you linked to definitely agrees with your description. I hoped it might be like the wheel bearings I remember on the front of my 91 Accord - the bearing was pressed onto a hub/carrier assembly that was then bolted to the knuckle.

But not so in this case...
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