2003 / 2004 recall

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Honda Tech

Discussion Starter · Aug 4, 2010

A recall will begin on automatic transmission equipped 2003 /2004 models beginning in mid to late September.

Possible worn ignition lock components that could allow the key to be removed without the vehicle being in park.

Make sure your vehicle is in park before you remove the key from the ignition.

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Jojo

· #2 · Aug 4, 2010

Thanks for the heads up.

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dammitjim

· #3 · Aug 4, 2010

In for more info on the recall. Thanks.

illig

· #4 · Aug 4, 2010

.Folder for more info

ElementFanatic

· #5 · Aug 5, 2010

I'll get mine checked, Thank you. BTW will it hurt anything to remove the key while not in park?

Honda Tech

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 5, 2010

ElementFanatic said:
.... will it hurt anything to remove the key while not in park?

If the vehicle is not in park and the key is removed the driver may, for whatever reason, decide to exit the vehicle without placing the transmission into 'Park', which would create the potential that the vehicle could move unexpectedly.

What could get "hurt" is "anything" that the unexpectedly moving vehicle might hit / run-over, - hence a potential safety issue warranting a safety recall.

An intelligent person might fault a driver for leaving a vehicle parked in an unsafe manner (ie: not in 'Park'), but thankfully we have lawyers to protect us from ourselves - provided they can smell a pay-out from someone, somewhere.

GRNDHOG

· #7 · Aug 5, 2010

dammitjim said:
In for more info on the recall. Thanks.

yeah, me too

Gboybst578

· #8 · Aug 9, 2010

Recall

Dont know what section this goes in but it was just announced

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/honda_is_recalling_nearly_4000.html

Tim Vance

· #9 · Aug 9, 2010

We just had the same announcement in Canada:

By The Canadian Press, cbc.ca, Updated: August 9, 2010 1:52 PM
Honda recalls 44,000 vehicles

Honda Canada is recalling 44,000 vehicles to fix a reported malfunction of the ignition interlock.
Honda says it has received several complaints that it may be possible to pull the key from the ignition when the shift lever is not in "park" if the mechanism is damaged or worn.
The automaker says that could lead to a vehicle rolling away if the parking brake is not on since the transmission isn't locked when a car is not in "park."
Honda says it does not know of any accidents or injuries in Canada as a result of the problem.
The recall affects about 18,000 Honda Accords, 21,000 Honda Civics and 2,000 Acura 1.7ELs from the 2003 model year, and about 3,000 Honda Elements from the 2003 and 2004 model years.
Honda says it will notify owners next month. Those concerned about the problem should contact a dealer or call the toll-free number 1-888-946-6329

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nedsanderson

· #10 · Aug 9, 2010

thanks for posting! I'm bringing mine in tomorrow for AC repair.

Darth Raider

· #11 · Aug 9, 2010

DETROIT (Reuters) – Honda Motor Co said on Monday it was recalling more than 428,000 vehicles in the United States and Canada because of a defect that could cause the cars to roll away if they are parked incorrectly.

The Honda recall covers Accord, Civic and Element models from the 2003 and 2004 model years in the United States. That recall includes 384,220 vehicles.

A parallel safety recall in Canada covers those models and some Acura 1.7ELs. There are about 44,000 vehicles under recall in Canada, most of them Accords and Civics.

Honda said that in some situations a part known as the ignition interlock lever could fail.

That device is intended to keep drivers from removing their key from the ignition when the vehicle has not been put in park. If the ignition switch fails, that could allow vehicles to roll away when parked incorrectly, causing accidents.

Honda said it would begin notifying consumers of the recall in September.

The safety recall started with an inquiry from U.S. safety regulators in September 2008.

In early 2009, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration upgraded its inquiry of the potential defect for the 2002 model year Accord, Honda's best-selling vehicle.

At that time, Honda had received reports of 10 crashes related to the defect. NHTSA said consumers had reported 11 crashes to the safety agency for the same problem.

One woman said she had almost been run over by her car when it was parked in her driveway, accord to NHTSA records.

In early July, Honda and NHTSA representatives met to discuss the situation and on July 29 Honda determined that it had a safety defect with the ignition switch that demanded a recall, according to the records.

Honda had two other recalls for related problems in 2003 and again in 2005, NHTSA records show.

(Reporting by Kevin Krolicki, editing by Matthew Lewis)

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spdrcr5

· #12 · Aug 9, 2010

To see if your Element is part of this or any recall go to recalls.honda.com I don't know if this works for Canada or not. You might need an Owner Link account, but not certain as I have one.

Tim Vance

· #13 · Aug 9, 2010

Darth Raider said:
That device is intended to keep drivers from removing their key from the ignition when the vehicle has not been put in park. If the ignition switch fails, that could allow vehicles to roll away when parked incorrectly, causing accidents.

One woman said she had almost been run over by her car when it was parked in her driveway, accord to NHTSA records.

Sorry, I know this is serious, any recall is...but I can't help seeing the humour in someone not making sure their vehicle was in park then blaming the manufacturer when it almost runs them over....seriously??? You didn't notice it rolling, when you got out either???

lizzurd

· #14 · Aug 9, 2010

In Canada:

You can ask your local Honda dealership's Service Department, or you can call Honda Canada Customer Relations at 1-888-946-6329. Your Vehicle Identification Number will be required in order to check for any recalls.

AztecRol

· #15 · Aug 10, 2010

Tim Vance said:
Sorry, I know this is serious, any recall is...but I can't help seeing the humour in someone not making sure their vehicle was in park then blaming the manufacturer when it almost runs them over....seriously??? You didn't notice it rolling, when you got out either???

I think you are missing the problem. If the cable comes off, you can put
the shifter into Park, but with the cable not hooked up, the tranny will NOT
be in Park. So even if you check to make sure its in Park, the E can still
roll because its NOT in Park.

Hence the recall.

lizzurd

· #16 · Aug 10, 2010

AztecRol said:
I think you are missing the problem. If the cable comes off, you can put
the shifter into Park, but with the cable not hooked up, the tranny will NOT
be in Park. So even if you check to make sure its in Park, the E can still
roll because its NOT in Park.

Hence the recall.

To keep on the right track here the recall is for the ignition switch.....Not the shifter cable.

Darth Raider

· #17 · Aug 10, 2010

The recall is expected to begin in late September and US owners owners can contact Honda at (800) 999-1009.

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z(+)diac

· #18 · Aug 10, 2010

Weird, I thought this was somewhat normal

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I've had this happen a few times, thankfully I have a habit of applying the e-brake quite often.

Strange though, when I went to the Honda Owner's site linked above, and attempted to fill-in my VIN number, I received a message that it could not be found. I double-checked both my insurance card and the actual VIN plate to make sure I wasn't a number or two off, but it still won't apply it.

Guess I'll call tomorrow and get to the bottom of it all.

kitkat123474

· #19 · Aug 10, 2010 (Edited)

Honda Canada will be mailing owners about this around September. Also, make sure you engage your parking brake when you park your E.

i know that the 2004 2WD A/T E's with vin number 5J6YH18***L800001 to 5J6YH18***L800120 are affected. (Canadian E's)

LE-mint

· #20 · Aug 10, 2010

Darth Raider said:
One woman said she had almost been run over by her car when it was parked in her driveway, accord to NHTSA records.

Darn, it missed. Better luck next time. Obviously it wasn't "parked" was it? Pretty soon all vehicles will have other idiot proof safeguards to protect us from the morons, like automatic magnetic emergency braking systems when the vehicle is not running, engines that won't start if the tires are too worn, or cars that don't shift out of park if the seat belts aren't clicked... hey, that's not a bad idea! :roll:

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