The Element has a total cargo capacity of 675 lbs. that includes people, cargo, etc. Is this some kind of joke? For 4 people, each one would have to weigh 168 lbs. or less!! :roll: This is America we're talking about. What active guy in America ever tops out at 168 lbs.? What about his buddies? What about all four after an all you can eat at Pancho's?